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Pieter-Steph du Toit moving to Cape Town

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2015, 11:24
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07 Jul 2015, 11:24#1

This was probably the worst kept secret in SA Rugby - but it has now been confiormed in the following article from News24:-


"Springbok lock Pieter-Steph du Toit has confirmed his departure from the Sharks at the end of his contract, which expires in October 2015.


Having made his debut for the Sharks in 2012, du Toit with his strong physicality and presence has become an influential player for the franchise with strong performances that earned him Springbok colours in 2013.


Commenting on his departure, Sharks CEO John Smit said: “We are terribly disappointed to lose a player of the calibre of Pieter-Steph du Toit. Despite our best efforts to keep him in the province, he has chosen to move on.


“He was scouted and signed by the franchise whilst still in school and ever since his arrival in Durban, he has emerged as a stand-out performer. Sadly, he suffered two serious injuries, which saw his 2014 and 2015 seasons being curtailed prematurely.

“Our medical team has invested immense time and effort into Pieter-Steph’s rehabilitation and recovery process and we are saddened to lose him, but I guess we cannot hold the player back if he has made up his mind.”


Pieter–Steph thanked the Sharks for the unconditional support the province has always given him during times of fitness and especially injury.


“This was the hardest decision of my life. The Sharks have always been good to me and if it was not for what the province has done for me I would never have been able to achieve from rugby what I have to date. For this, I will be forever grateful. My decision is one that has a specific focus now already for my life after rugby and also my family. Thank you to every Sharks employee and fan for the privilege I have had to be part of your family. All of you will always remain dear to me.”


“On behalf of the Sharks, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Pieter-Steph for his contribution to Sharks rugby and wish him the very best in his playing career moving forward,” concluded Smit.


As one of the subscribers wrote in comments about the article: -


"As much as I hate to see him leave the Sharks, I think the reality is that PSDT & Etzebeth are our future lock pairing. It would make sense to have both these great young locks playing for the same union for the benefit of the Springboks, to form a formidable partnership like Vic & Bakkies did (in their day). That is provided he signs with WP, which is more than likely the case! Go well PSDT, I hope you stay injury free!!!!".


Although the article did not specifically confirm his destination the fact is he did mention his life after rugby.  His family are farming in the Western Cape and he is destined to take over the family farm in time to come.  So he is definitely going to the Stormers/Western Province.   It has been reported previously that Gert Smal was after him to sign for the Stormers and although the initial approach was unsuccessful ending in Du Toit saying he would stay with the Sharks - they must have upped the offer massively to convince him otherwise.  The main concern is apparent - Du Toit does not want to lose contact with the family farming business and that was also a major consideration.


This must be disappointing for my friend Mozart - he is a definite avid Stormers-WP supporter and his constant criticism of Du Toit would now be regarded as almost treasonous by his fellow-Stormer supporters.   He may change his tune after Du Toit start playing for his new franchise.     


  

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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
07 Jul 2015, 14:43
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07 Jul 2015, 14:43#2
 You guys going to pick Matfield at the world cup, that would be of great help to the Abs haha. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2015, 14:50
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07 Jul 2015, 14:50#3
 Luke
If Meyer is mad enough to pick Matfield you know where he belongs - in a lunatic asylum.   It will not only be a great help to the AB's - it will be a great help to all other teams that play against SA.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jul 2015, 15:15
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07 Jul 2015, 15:15#4
Oh boy what a crock. His great "presence" at the Sharks ....more like he his great non presence. After three years the Sharks are left with nothing except medical bills...modern loyalty at its best.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2015, 15:33
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07 Jul 2015, 15:33#5
 Mozart
Lets look at your above statement:-
"Oh boy what a crock. His great "presence" at the Sharks ....more like he his great non presence. After three years the Sharks are left with nothing except medical bills...modern loyalty at its best."

Du Toit was serious injured on two occasions and lost a lot of game time in matches, but the rest of your statement is somewhat confused.  Players are covered by medical insurance against injuries  and the Sharks do not pay the medical bills.
However, Du Toit was not the only Sharks player with injury problems.   One of their other players with constant injury problems over the last three seasons was Willem Alberts - a player with a salary packet much higher than what Du Toit earned.   He has now signed with Stade Francais - so is the following applicable to him as well:-
 "Modern loyalty at its best"?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,283 posts
07 Jul 2015, 15:41
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07 Jul 2015, 15:41#6
Apparently Goosen thought about tackling Stephanie at a Stormers 2016 practise session - and that was enough for both to be injured for 3 months
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jul 2015, 15:50
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07 Jul 2015, 15:50#7
Hahaha....I wonder if Stephanie returns to the Sharks now for "monitoring" or to the Stormers.  
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
07 Jul 2015, 15:55
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07 Jul 2015, 15:55#8

Do we know who will be the Stormers' coach for 2016 onwards?

If Proudfoot is still the forwards coach then PSDT may benefit in terms of his skills development. I guess Proudfoot must get some recognition for the development of the Stormers' forwards.

I do not rate Smal's coaching skills all that high.

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2015, 16:03
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07 Jul 2015, 16:03#9
 SB you are as funny as Mozart is unable to read articles.  Springbok lock Pieter-Steph du Toit has confirmed his departure from the Sharks at the end of his contract, which expires in October 2015."
Problem with understanding English again - Mozart? 
I initially believed an earlier newspaper report  that Du Toit's contract with the Sharks was terminating on 30 June 2015 - but the report was clearly wrong - it terminates in October 2015.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jul 2015, 16:10
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07 Jul 2015, 16:10#10
Blikkies Proudfoot appears to have done a great job with the scrumming. Less so with the lineouts which was a big cause for concern against the Brumbies. Still he is a competent coach for Stephanie to work under. As for the head coach, I hope it's somebody who can restore some of the adventure that WP showed in last year's CC.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2015, 16:26
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07 Jul 2015, 16:26#11
 Mozart
In a newspaper report it was indicated that Proudfoot is leaving WP and joining Coetzee in Japan:-
"Senior forwards coach Matt Proudfoot has opted not to renew his contract with Western Province Rugby, but he might not be lost to the union on a permanent basis.

Proudfoot will be linking up with outgoing Stormers head coach Allister Coetzee at Kobe Steel Kobelco Steelers in Japan, but Director of Rugby Gert Smal remains hopeful of retaining his services on a consultancy basis, which would see him contribute to the ‘Tight Five Factory'; an innovative project which is aimed at identifying and developing tight five players from youth level and up within WP Rugby.


Proudfoot, 42, has served as forwards coach of both the Stormers and Western Province for the past seven seasons, which has seen the Cape team’s pack become one of the most feared units at Super Rugby and Currie Cup level.

In that time, the likes of unheralded juniors Steven Kitshoff, Scarra Ntubeni, Frans Malherbe, Vincent Koch, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi and Nizaam Carr have progressed into the Springbok ranks (either as Test players or squad members), with the Stormers’ scrummaging power a huge boon in their recently-completed 2015 Super Rugby campaign.

Smal commented: “First and foremost, Matt deserves a lot of credit for what he has achieved here during his time as forwards coach of both the Stormers and Western Province.


“Like with Allister (Coetzee), it was always our intention to retain Matt’s services at WP Rugby, but, that said, you cannot stand in somebody’s way should they feel like a change after years of loyal service.


Proudfoot moved to the Cape at the start of 2009, having been a successful coach of NWU-Pukke at national and Varsity Cup level, and he will be leaving the union with fond memories; which includes three South African Vodacom Super Rugby Conference titles and two Absa Currie Cup triumphs.


"It was a dream come true to coach at Western Province – the union and the Stormers and Western Province teams will always remain very close to my heart,” said Proudfoot to the www.iamastormer.com website.

“There comes a time for change, however, and although I am leaving I will be leaving with fond memories and many friendships and plenty of experience.

“I would love to stay involved in the ‘Tight Five Factory’ (project), as I believe it’s a project that has a lot of merit and could only benefit an already strong union like Western Province, so hopefully this won’t mean the end of my involvement here.”
I doubt whether the Stormers line out problems had anything to do with the jumpers - the problem was with the inaccurate throw-ins by the Stormers Hookers.   If those hookers cannot throw in line out balls by now - they never will be able to do that in future.   You do not need a coach for that type of thing - you need to find a way to get into the planks involved.
By the way I do not think Du Toit needs specialist line out coaching - he out-jumped Matfield with ease in the game between the Sharks and the Bulls earlier this year.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Jul 2015, 07:11
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08 Jul 2015, 07:11#12
This is great news for us. It must be every SA players dream to play for the Stormers! Provided we get in a genuine coach things should look up but we are also loosing classy players to the parasitic NH Oz and Japan. Ifear nz will at some time start poaching our forwards ti bolster their pap packs!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Jul 2015, 07:28
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08 Jul 2015, 07:28#13
Beeno: if the SA players are tempted to try their luck in NZ one can understand it. However, to play in a kiwi team you have to know how to catch & pass the ball.
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