Rapports Top 30 Boks (IMPROVED)

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What a pathetic attempt to try and minimize what he did for that club...

He played for Stade Francais over 130 times, and helped them win the Top 14 title in 2014, as well as the European Rugby Challenge in 2017

Just a correction - Stade Francais won the 2014-15 Top 14 Tournament.   Morne did not play for Stade in that tournament  at all - he joined them in 2015 at the start of the 2015-16 series.    He had a 3 year contract contract with Stade and there were media reports that after the first three months Stade tried to pass him off onto another club - but nobody would take him.   The 2015-16 year was a bad year for Stade Francais and they lost their position as participants in the  Heineken Cup.   They were demoted to the second level competition in Europe - the European Challenge Cup.

In 2016-17 Meyer was appointed as Stade Francais coach.   Morne's contract was not renewed in 2017 and he was going to play for Brive.  Meyer convinced Stade to take him back on contract and that was the start of the near demise of Stade as a Rugby Club. and Meyer was fired and Steyn sent packing the same time. 

In all the matches I watched - and they are now not on Superpsort anymore - Morne was not starting - fact is he played only as starter when Plisson was not available.    I do not dispute the number of times Morne played for Stade - but I think at l east 90% of the games he was on the bench.        

Come on then Mr Clever. Where did I lie? 

I do not have the time to write a book on your contributions - most of it is based on distortion of what happened - and the lies are endless.     

You claimed that I posted stats that were incorrect, with the intention of deception. Lying. When and where did this happen? I have, however, corrected nearly two dozen blatant lies by you! 

You h ad so many user-names before the present one I cannot remember when exactly you posted stats that was tampered with and I caught you out.     Matter of fact it was in 2018 - when the issue of scoring of tries under Meyer and Erasmus  were discussed.   

What nonsense. Anyway, what was the claim that was made about tries scored? You probably didn't adjust for trends within the game, as trends dictate variances between eras. Post-2015 teams started scoring more tries, and defence deteriorated. The Boks went from being a 93% tackle team to an 80%, and this followed trends across the board. Did the Boks score more tries under Erasmus than their peers in relation to the Meyer Boks? No they didn't. In fact, 2018 to 2021 the Boks accumulated fewer attacking stats than any Meyer lead team, even the abbreviated 2015 RC. I don't have all the numbers to hand right now, but I can certainly make these available. The anomaly this season was the downfall of New Zealand and Australia, who are literally the worst iteration of themselves in all of rugby history. Quite fortunate. Michael, you aren't cut out for these discussions. I cannot even begin to quantify how lacking you have been in these exchanges. My advice: Quiet the tongue and open the mind. You are too quick to slander people before ever even thinking about getting your facts straight. I do not respect your sloppiness. 

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In 2018 the Springboks scored more backline tries than the whole team did in 2012 - the first year in which either Meyer or Erasmus coached the team.   The trend continued throughout 2019 - another WC year.    2015 was from a rugby perspective a disastrus year for the Springboks.   In the period November to the start of the WC the Springboks played in 8 tests winning only 3 and then went on to lose against Japan in the WC.

You are talking total shir about decline in defense  since the Meyer disaster years,   The strongest point was in fact the exact opposite,   In the whole WC series in 2019 the opposing teams scored only four tries against SA due to the upgrading of defense min games.   All your garbage is worthless since it is not supported by facts.          

Damian, Lambie and Kriel account - directly - for 5 losses in 2015. You defended all of them, therefore you have no argument. Furthermore, the 2018 Boks were ranked lower than the 2012 team, finished worse and accumulated less production in every statistical category. Players such as Pollard and Willie totally eclipsing what they would produce under Erasmus to this day! The trend for low production continued from 2018 to 2021. There was a slight spike last season due to the Boks having the luxury of the worst All Black and Wallaby sides of all time! Even then, both smashed the Boks, who would scrape through 2022 despite it being the easiest season since readmission. Michael, you aren't even trying to put up a fight here. I'm not a kak praat braai talk South African, I know all of these details extremely well. If you are going to hold your own in these exchanges you had better do a lot more research. Your knowledge of Bok rugby is abysmal!