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Sormers little men get slapped

Started by Saffolk 21 REPLIES415 VIEWS· 22 Jun 2015, 11:28
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jun 2015, 11:28
#1
22 Jun 2015, 11:28#1

The game is no longer for little men, let alone a whole backline containing midgets but for de Allende, possibly the best centre on the planet right now.


The way the physical Brumbies backs slapped the wee Stormers about was embarrassing, not to mention the lack of imagination shown by the side as a whole.


Good to see the back of useless Coetzee and hopefully with his departure we will see a real coach who will see the merit in getting rid of insults like Lleyds and de Jongh for a start.


Etzebeth, Kolisi, Kitshoff, Malherbe and de Allende were loan rangers in that pathetic Stormers effort 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Jun 2015, 15:18
#2
22 Jun 2015, 15:18#2
 You are right about the backline but have yet to grasp the fact that wee Bongi, wee Kolisi and wee Carr were all disasters as well. The real men like Burger and Vermuelen were sorely missed. Any ideas of Carr and Kolisi being chosen for the RWC squad must be promptly abandoned by all but the most obstinate hatters - of whom one or too post here
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2015, 15:24
#3
22 Jun 2015, 15:24#3

 Kolisi was utterly hopeless, Carr was utterly hopeless. The guys who got slapped around were the small loosies who were totally dominated at the breakdown. The Stormers lost this game because of the breakdown, the lineouts....where again the Brumbies killed us at the back dominating our small loosies.....and because Leyds made some stupid mistakes and was badly fended once . Bur the fend on Leyds was no worse than Kuridrani's fend on de Allende......fact.

 

Dave you are bloody stupid, you have to be to write this rubbish every day.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2015, 15:56
#4
22 Jun 2015, 15:56#4
 Dave
You must see what Mozart and Letsalbemorons said about De Allende - 
*   Mozart blames De Allende for a missed tackle on Kuridrani - but not a word about the missed tackles of De Jongh and Leyds; and
*   Letsal blame De Allende for malfunctioning of the Stormers backline - that is as far as I could fathom his ravings.
However, I do share your point of view on the issue of the midgets.     
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jun 2015, 16:06
#5
22 Jun 2015, 16:06#5

What utter rubbish, Kolisi had a physically imposing game.....he always breaks the advantage line......Carr had a less than impressive game.


Kolisi was very good.......Vermeulen and Schalk were missed.


The issue had very little to do with the forwards and everything to do with useless Lleyds being exposed like no tomorrow and de Jongh on his usual AWOL mission - did he play?


Moz you are the one that is fucking stupid.....stupid enough to blame the loosies when it was clear for ALL to see that your little hero de Jongh was yet again an insult......but the worst of the lot was little Lleyds.......its your blind ignorance that keeps telling us its ok to play all these little guys. 


What utter fucking rubbish re de Allende's miss.......he was the best defensive centre on show in that game, not to mention how brilliant he was on attack....he made 7 tackles missing 2.......compare that to your useless hero de Jongh who made 4 and missed 2.......what about the Brumbies centres with Kurandrani making 6 and missing 5 tackles, closely followed by the 12 with 5 made 3 missed.


The issue with the Stormers were their pathetic little backs with de Jongh 4/2, Lleyds 3/2 and being pathetic under the high ball and Catrakillis making all of 3 and missing 3.


Therein lies the issue......it had stuff all to do with the breakdown. I'll give you the line-outs where Mbonambi was pathetic.


Wake up man, the issue was the tiny Stormers backs being treated like kids playing a man's game

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jun 2015, 16:20
#6
22 Jun 2015, 16:20#6

Just to put the record straight regarding the utter ignorance regarding Kolisi's display.


He gained more metres than Pocock, 31m vs 25m, they both only beat 1 defender and Pocock was the only one to miss a tackle with 10/1 unlike Kolisi who made 8 and missed none.


Kolisi had a good game as he has all season.....always gets across the advantage line and I clearly remember a good turnover won  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2015, 17:48
#7
22 Jun 2015, 17:48#7
Kolisi was dominated....totally dominated at the breakdown. In fact he stepped away from contact on a number of occasions. In terms of securing the ball and providing quick ball he was a failure. And as  a 7 his lineout impact is zero. A few runs doesn't offset that...get real.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jun 2015, 17:58
#8
22 Jun 2015, 17:58#8

Utter rubbish who beat him at the breakdown then......name the players......what utter crap.


Kolisi was the second best loosie on the field in that game....the best was the Brumbies 8. He never steps away from contact, that is a lie.


He secured as much ball as Pocock did but made more of an impression than Pocock did in the game. Kolisi was without doubt better than Pocock and that's a fact.


Kolisi never makes an impact in the line-outs, for he is not a 7's backside......only a complete fool like Coetzee would play Kolisi at 7 with Rhodes at 6.......mind blowing stuff.


Lets just have a look at Fardy for the Brumbies at blindside.....5 m gained, zero defenders beaten, 8 tackles made, zero missed.....Kolisi owned him.

DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
22 Jun 2015, 18:00
#9
22 Jun 2015, 18:00#9
DA was exposed on defence yet again. The same as we've been seeing all year. Kolbe was no worse than DA. 
And Michael, my assessment of DS has been verified by video. You could refute nothing! Quite embarrassing when you demanded I look at the Shark game and nothing you stated as fact turned up! 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jun 2015, 18:07
#10
22 Jun 2015, 18:07#10

Letwat you ignorant twit.....DA was the best defending centre on the day.......7 made 2 missed, compare that with useless de Jongh with 4 made and 2 missed......not to mention the Aussie pair with Kurandrani making 6 and missing 5, while the 12 made 5 and missed 3......wake up you idiot.


Lets not get into how great DA was on attack....for that would expose your rugby ignorance even further.......but why not be a sport and talk us through how poor DA was with ball in hand.....entertain us you ignorant twit  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2015, 18:12
#11
22 Jun 2015, 18:12#11
The only tackles de Jongh  missed were diving efforts on the  kick chase...he picked up Kuridrani once and turned him. The commentators remarked on it. He was never swatted offl like  deAllende was. Stop talking rot Dave.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jun 2015, 18:26
#12
22 Jun 2015, 18:26#12

Ah so there is an excuse for de Jongh but none for DA......so what was de Jongh's excuse for being so poor with ball in hand.......did he actually play?


Could it get further apart.....de Allende gained 118m, made 4 clean breaks and beat 12 defenders......your mate gained all of 6m and registered a big fat zero with clean breaks and defenders beaten......what exactly do you see in this little guy......can you not begin to comprehend the fact that 87kg does not work at outside centre.......not at any level other than school boy rugby  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2015, 18:35
#13
22 Jun 2015, 18:35#13
Nobody is denying de Allende was superb ball in hand. I'm just contesting your lie that de Jongh was swatted and de Allende wasn't. In truth it was the opposite way around. Tell the truth it will keep you from looking like a fool.  
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Jun 2015, 18:36
#14
22 Jun 2015, 18:36#14
Damian was brilliant and staking a claim to best center in world rugby. His defence even against forwards is fantastic and he is freakishly strong. What snapster cant yet fathom is you cantt field 3 little guys in your pack. The Stormers lost their forward dominance and the microlight backline was brutally exposed. Its that simple. Coetzee doesnt understand the game and ou snapster is only one step ahead of Alistair. Hahahaha
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2015, 18:43
#15
22 Jun 2015, 18:43#15
 Mozart
Your description of what happened in the De Allende - Kuridrani case is basically a total misrepresentation what really happened.  What happened was that De Jongh was lined up opposite Kuridrani.   De Allende was not opposite Kuridrani as alleged by you.   Kuridrani then ran at the gap between De Allende and De Jongh - with De Jongh doing nothing to counter the move. De Allende had to come from the inside to try and tackle Kuridrani and he was handed off running from an inside position to try and make a tackle.   It is relatively easy for a player to avoid that type of tackle and the statement of yours  that De Allende was smashed in this case - is absolute BS.
De Jongh lined up opposite Kuridrani was the real player to defend in that case and your blaming of De Allende was totally false in this case.   In any event the move lead to nothing - since Kuridrani lost possession of the ball.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2015, 18:43
#16
22 Jun 2015, 18:43#16
His defence is not fantastic. He is powerful, but very awkward going low....that's a weakness. Were it not for that he would be the ideal 13... he has the pace to crack the outside gap.  As it stands he plays 12 and 13 equally well on attack. But on defence he is better muscling players at 12... than  he is bringing up the line at 13 and tackling low at pace.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Jun 2015, 20:08
#17
22 Jun 2015, 20:08#17
 Our loosies were too light, our hooker was crap with his throw-ins and Leyds had a horrendous day at the office. The rest of the backs were OK. De Allende looked good in a poor team and I saw at least one very good low tackle by de Allende. De Jongh also made some good rush tackles.This was a major choke by the team as a whole though. Only 1 out of 5 home knock out games at Newlands to show for all the years of SR. Poor show indeed...or no show actually. 
Edit: 1 of 5, I forgot the 2011 desaster against the Saders!
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Jun 2015, 20:14
#18
22 Jun 2015, 20:14#18
Oops!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2015, 20:28
#19
22 Jun 2015, 20:28#19
Stop lying Tokkie....spot on Draad.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2015, 02:10
#20
23 Jun 2015, 02:10#20
 Mozart - it was no lie - your representation of what actually happened was utter BS and not worthy of being worthy being called a lie.   Are you not ashamed of yourself in misrepresenting what happened on the field of play on this site?   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2015, 04:25
#21
23 Jun 2015, 04:25#21
 De Allende was smashed...deal with it.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jun 2015, 08:06
#22
23 Jun 2015, 08:06#22
 The fact is the micro light backline was a consequence of the racist ytransformation policies of wee coetzee. As were the selection of the hopeless Bongi, Carr and Kolisi.This debacle was a direct consequence of quota selections. 
How disgusting is all this.
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