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Super XV 2015 - De Allende & Steym (Stormers v Sharks)

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 15:43
#1
02 Jun 2015, 15:43#1

Damian De Allende

1st Half

00:08 - DA positioned on blindside after S14 fields kick-off, but leaves to join ruck, guarding the blindside to protect S9 from N12.


01:02 - Shark LO. Sharks take ball to line; N10 runs at S10, N13 runs at S12. S12 is responsible for N13 and condenses in leaving space between him and S13. S13 and himself are over-stretched and space between them is breached by N14.


07:07 - Fields chip by N11 and holds up high challenge by N12, is driven backwards by N13 thereafter.


08:36 - Stormers LO. They loose ball over the top, but S10 gathers and pops pass to S9, then S9-S12. S12 holds his position and passes out just as N13 is about to connect with tackle, but passes poorly and ball bobbles forward towards touchline. Not picked up by ref, play continues.


09:31 - S11 trips N14 from behind. N14 falls at S12's feet, S12 attack ball but driven cleanly out of ruck by N15.


11:14 - Stormer LO. S6 with long pass out to S12, missing S7-S10. S12 attacking space between N12 and N13. N12 brings him down, but S12 offloads to S13 who knocks on in space.


13:55 - Stormers scum. S10-S12. S12 has N12 close him down quickly, S12 attempts hand-off whilst moving away from N12. S12 eventually breaks free, but is swarmed by N10 and N13. N13 hitting him to ground.


23:12 - S9-S12. S12 in his in-goal area and with clearance kick. Does not find touch. N11 counters, S12 is now opposite him and passes wildly out to N12.


29:28 - Stormer LO. N5 gathers and charges forward, knocks on. S10-S12. S12-S15. S15 with shallow chip in behind defensive line.


33:44 - N12 attacks inside shoulder of S12. N12 takes him at chest level, but slips off all the way down to S12's feet. N12 stands his ground strongly and offloads to an on rushing N6.


35:41 - Second phase after shark scrum inside Stormer 22. N10 dummies to N13 and darts inside S12 and beats him, S8 dives out and brings N10 down with S12 getting finger tip grasp on N10 only because of S8 halting N10 progress.


37:16 - Stormer scrum, inside their 22. S10-S12. S12 runs towards N13, N10 comes at S12 but is run over by him. N6 grabs him around the shoulders but is broken through. N13 brings S12 to ground.


37:30 - Stormers attack one phase back from where they came (middle and hit-back pattern). S9-S12. S9 passes wide to S12 who is near touchline. S12-S6. S12 at base of ruck, dummies pass back inside and sharks give up small pocket of space along the touchline. S12 breaks away. Stormers have the Sharks scrambling thereafter.

2nd Half

40:03 - N8 runs at S12 head-on and drives back until S6 pulls N8 down. S12 joins ruck but driven off.


41:16 - S15 breaks around the fringes. S12 gets ball right along the touchline. N2 takes him low, S12 stands in the tackle of three making barely any ground but ball securely presented after brought to ground. Play now well inside Shark 22.


48:37 - S9-S12. S9 cut pass, skipping S2 and S6. S12 takes it to N2 and N3 and passes flat to S11, but poor pass ends up in the arms of N11 just outside S11.


50:27 - S9 misses S10 to get ball out wide to S12. Pass was poor and S12 has to dive backwards to get it. S12 back on his feet and brought to ground quickly primarily by N20.


52:10 - N13 runs head-on into S12, S12 takes him high and marches N13 back and they both go to ground.


54:49 - Stormer LO. They hit it up twice with their PODs. S20-S12. S12 attacks outside shoulder of N12. N12 gets 12s arms and immediately attacks ball. N9 joins N12. S2 drives S12 forward from behind.


57:48 - Stormer LO. S12-S15 immediately beside him.


62:34 - N10 passes flat to N12 who is hit by S12. S12 hits into area of ball and dislodges it. Ball goes backwards and regathered by N15. 


65:08 - N9 with a slow clearance kick. S12 comes around the back of N8 who is creating a blind spot for N9 by standing in front and a little to his left. Charge down. Penalty try eventually awarded to Stormers.


71:52 - Stormers LO. S22-S12. S12 takes it to the line in front of N12 and passes flat to S13 who attacks space between N12 and N13. 


73:46 - Shark restart. S12 loses the ball backwards.
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Francois Steyn

1st Half

00:06 - S14 fields kick. N13 and N14 chase and tackle. N12 covers the blindside of first ruck, he takes up guard position, but calls over support, N14 gets out of ruck and joins blindside defence, whilst N12 covers S13.


01:02 - Shark LO. N10 takes ball to line; N10 runs at S10, N13 runs at S12. S12 is responsible for N13 and condenses in leaving space between him and S13. N12 occupies S13 to stretch the defensive line and create space for N14 to run into. S13 and himself are over-stretched and space between them is breached by N14.


01:05 - After N14 wins a clean break N12 supports his run on the outside. N14 throws a very poor pass that is high and hanging leaving N12 struggling to reach it overhead. Ball passes overhead and S13 gathers and attempts kick into touch by loses it and concedes LO. Opportunity for try lost.


07:01 - Sharks win turnover after Stormers attempt maul from LO. Slow ball. N10-N12. N12 takes it to the line and with flat pass out but support not in place. N11 gathers ball near touchline.


07:07 - N11 chips high but S12 gathers out wide. N12 comes in too high and slips off tackle. Takes up position in subsequent ruck on the inside.


Stormer LO. S6 with long pass out to S12, missing S7-S10. S12 with an overs line attacking outside shoulder of N12. 11:14 - Stormer LO. S12 attacks space between N12 and N13. N12 brings him down, but S12 offloads to S13 who knocks on in space.


13:55 - N12 closes down S12, who attempts hand-off whilst moving away from N12. S12 eventually breaks free, but is swarmed by N10 and N13. N13 hitting him to ground.


16:07 - Shark scrum. Stormers win it. S8 runs over N10, N12 throws him to ground at the feet of N6 and gets back into defensive line as N6 attacks ball.


17:38 - Stormers scrum. S15 is tackled by N9, S15 kicks in the tackle and it bounces off N12. N12 hacks loose ball up field. He chases and pressures S10 as he kicks up field.


19:19 - Joins ruck and attacks ball.


23:22 - N11-N12. N11 fields clearance kick in Stormers half, and passes wildly out to N12. N12 draws S13 and passes out to N13. N12 supports his run, and drives him forward when brought down and secures possession at subsequent breakdown.


28:13 - N10-N12. Inside Stormers 22, and several phases after Shark LO. Steyn takes it flat and crashes it up taking two defenders and getting over the gainline.


29:31 - N12 jumps to challenge kick by S15. S15 proceeds to run into N12 while he is still airborne and injures himself in the process. N12 penalized for not pulling out of charge down attempt in mid-air.


33:44 - N8 passes in behind N6 to N12. N12 attacks inside shoulder of S12. N12 takes him at chest level, but slips off all the way down to S12's feet. N12 stands his ground strongly and offloads to an on rushing N6.


35:38 - Shark scrum, Stormer 22. N10-N11. N12 cleans ruck.


37:51 - N12 rushes out attempting to pressure S10, ball passes him. N12 scrambles back. Takes up guard position on the short side. S10 snipes around the blindside, N12 rushes out and brings him down quickly.


40:02 - Shark restart. S11-15, sending him around Sharks chasers. N12 cuts across and thumps S15 into touch S15 got a clever kick away just as he was going down.

2nd Half

40:06 - N8 brought down after restart. S12 cleans ruck strongly alongside N2 who clears S12 out of ruck completely.


40:23 - S8 fields high ball inside Sharks half. N12 stops him head-on holds him up attacking ball, halts Stormers support to drive S8 forward in the process. Ruck.


41:35 - N12 and N7 charge into S6 with S7 driving him forward from behind.


41:44 - S2-S10. S2 passes with back turned to Sharks, this encourages the Stormers defence to drift around his left shoulder to come around to S10, but S10 darts back inside and into gap left by these three defenders. S10 stumbles at the feet of N12 who proceeds to attack ball. Stormers forwards already present and N12 backs off and gets back into defensive line.


41:48 - S3 charges at N12 with S8 driving him forward. N12 takes S3 low and brings him cleanly to ground.


48:32 - Stormers attacking hard inside Shark 22 after S11 break. S7 runs at N12 with S5 behind him for support. N12 takes around the mid-section, pulls him aside from S5 and pulls him to ground.


50:18 - S6 attacks space inside N12. N12 angles in on S6 and brings him down.


52:03 - Shark scrum, poor quality ball. N9-14. N12 comes in to clean.


54:49 - Stormer LO. They hit it up twice with their PODs. S20-S12. S12 attacks outside shoulder of N12. N12 gets 12s arms and immediately attacks ball. N9 joins N12. S2 drives S12 forward from behind.


60:40 - N12 sends high hanging ball deep into Stormers half.


62:34 - N10-12. N10 passes flat to N12 who is hit by S12. S12 hits into area of ball and dislodges it. Ball goes backwards and regathered by N15. 


65:05 - Stormer restart. N12 fields restart. Offloads to N9.


71:52 - Stormers LO. S22-S12. S12 takes it to the line in front of N12 and passes flat to S13 who attacks space between N12 and N13. N12 dives back inside to S13, but N13 already bringing him to ground. Takes up position on short side as guard.


71:58 - S8 charges into ruck fringe, N12 grabs him midway and pulls him to ground with N5.


72:07 - Stormers ball bobbles backwards and S15 picks up. He darts up field, but is smashed to ground by N12 just as he gets kick away. Yellow card. 

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 15:50
#2
02 Jun 2015, 15:50#2
 NOTES

  1. Neither 12 dominated the other on defence. But Frans was far stronger in contact on attack.
  2. Damian had far more ball, and better field position and support. Stormers used the ball much better.
  3. Sharks very poor ball and too lateral with the first set move a notable exception.
  4. Sharks well beaten at the set pieces for most of the game. Got worse as game went on.
  5. Lambie did several good things on attack, his work on the first set move of the game was perfect. He came off the shoulder of the ruck perfectly for his try, showing good composure to fight for it by the line. But he was absolutely blown apart on defence from start to finish, most of his general play was lifeless and rudimentary.
  6. A clever flick back by Alberts set Lambie off for the try. Good interplay by both.
  7. Stormers considerably more organized and there was a clear pattern and direction to their game.
  8. Sharks looked very unorganized on attack and had no plan other than punch it up. An enormous step back from Jake.

Due to Frans' yellow card, Damian's dislodging of ball in tackle against Frans, and Damian's charge down which led to the try I will give Damian the edge in this encounter. But do note that Damian conceded a try - as per Michael's criteria - by not finding touch on a clearance. It led to Lambie's try; which Frans featured prominently in the build up.

MOM - For me it was Kolbe, but Lleyds was also very effective. I nearly had Catrakilis because of the two 10s he had more purpose and is quite a nippy little 10. He gets the backs away quite nicely and holds his channel well. But in a sluggfest that threatened to turn into a aerial ping-pong, Kolbe injected some pace and always a threat. Took some punishment too. Damian was effective in his usual capacity, loves to attack weak shoulders and good at destabilizing the defender and getting a forward drive. Made significant contributions; that charge down broke the Sharks. But this is yet another warning to the Reinach fans! It happened on tour as well, he is easily pressured.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:16
#3
02 Jun 2015, 16:16#3
 This is the biggest load of rubbish I have seen for a long time.   De Allende beats Steyn twice on attack and humiliated him in fact because he landed on his backside as a result.  
Steyn made zero progress in ball carries - he was stopped in his tracks every time he got the ball - and he got it 6 times.    He lost ball possession twice and was penalized three times.   That was the worst any 12 has done for a long time. 
I will give you the stats for the two players and u\ytou will just shout about numbers - but numbers are factual - your BS dreams:-
Steyn0/002/4/6700228/20/031/0
de Allende0/001/9/105626205/00/000/0
Stronger in counter-attack is utter BS.  He handled the ball 6 times and made exactly 7 meters progress in carrying the ball - in other words he as brought down within 1,5 meters at most from where he got the ball and he was tackled.  That means zero effectiveness in attack.
De Allende carried the ball 10 times making a meter gain of 56 meters - comprising 2 line breaks beating 6 defenders (Steyn twice) and you tell us that Steyn was stronger in counter-attack.   That must be the joke of the year or close to it.
Just one last thing the following is clear as daylight an example of a fal se report on an indicent:-
"72:07 - Stormers ball bobbles backwards and S15 picks up. He darts up field, but is smashed to ground by N12 just as he gets kick away. Yellow card."

This is a typical description of zero value.  Kolbe kicked the ball and as Kolbe ran past him Steyn  managed to push him in the back with one hand and Kolbe stumbled and fell a few meters further.   There was not a "smashed to the ground" at all but a rather useless and illegal attempt to stop Kolbe from following up the ball.   That is just one example why your descriptions are so utterly useless and false.     
Steyn was disgustingly poor in that game and nothing of your jargon and verbal diarrhea will take away from that.     



 
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:21
#4
02 Jun 2015, 16:21#4
Michael, you need to drop the stats. I'm telling you want happened in-game. In the first DA tackle, he spun around Steyn all the way to the ground. Steyn dominated that physically. In the second, Steyn was advancing forward before the ball got dislodged. Fact, reality, not what you wanted to see but what happened. I have shown I can credit Damian for what he has done, now it's time to show you can drop this childish ranting of Steyn and give him some credit for what he has done. Or will you continue with your bias.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:24
#5
02 Jun 2015, 16:24#5

Useless Lestat stumped again.....give it up you ignorant fool


You are a bore  

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:27
#6
02 Jun 2015, 16:27#6
Stumped? Not quite. But Michael is. DA committed a sin which Michael started an entire thread to bemoan. And he did not do what Michael said he did. Now LiarMike must sling mud to defend himself, just before starting another thread insulting me. LMAO!! Childish and biased, your soul mate.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:29
#7
02 Jun 2015, 16:29#7
No you twat, DA keeps confirming what an rugby ignoramus you are......keep it up though.....its a hoot reading such utter garbage  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:29
#8
02 Jun 2015, 16:29#8
 No bias - just plain facts.  Fact is I pointed out just one false description by you nd virtually every line was false and utterly misleading.
I certainly will give Steyn credit if he had a good game - but he was no good in that game and everyone will say that.   So what is there to give him credit for?      
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:33
#9
02 Jun 2015, 16:33#9
You lied Michael. You said that Damian trampled all over Steyn. That was not the case. The whole thing turned out exactly as I said it did .Shall I get the video together as well? LMAO! You are the most compulsive liar I have ever seen in all my life. Nothing I have said is inaccurate. Nothing.

" DA keeps confirming what an rugby ignoramus you are"


By what? Doing exactly what I say he does? What's your angle? You on the other hand are claiming he man-handles forwards on defence and is a powerful punch runner. Please point to such instances?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2015, 16:56
#10
02 Jun 2015, 16:56#10
 Hell - if a Steyn attempted to tackle De Allende and as a result ended up on his backside behind De Allende - he was played the fool with.  You can go on and on claiming it was not that - but it was.  
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
02 Jun 2015, 17:07
#11
02 Jun 2015, 17:07#11
 Doyou honestly believe what you write? You must be a troll, this has to be a wind up. I already said DA broke the tackle Michael. So why are you claiming I go on and on saying it didn't happen? Here's the real issue, Steyn was not dominated as you had stated. So now you throw a little tantrum because it did not happen as you said it did. You know, the nonsense YOU kept going on and on about, the incessant whining that lead to this thread in the first place? Again,  a liar with no credibility.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2015, 19:15
#12
02 Jun 2015, 19:15#12
 Steyn was dominated and that was clear to all observers - but you.  You wrote the following:-
"Stormers s[removed]. S10-S12. S12 has N12 close him down quickly, S12 attempts hand-off whilst moving away from N12. S12 eventually breaks free, but is swarmed by N10 and N13. N13 hitting him to ground."
This whole description is a farce.   What really happened was as follows:-
S12 carried the ball forward and N12 attempted to tackle him.  S12 brushed off the tackle with N12 ending up on the grass behind him.  S12 carried on going forward and was eventually tackled in a combined attempt by N10 and N13 still going forward in the tackle.  
What happened is what I wrote - what you wrote is a totally false description of what actually happened.    A person can carry on  with correcting your descriptions and point out what really happened in every occurrence you dealt with - but the one I gave now and the earlier one preceding the yellow card I mentioned was enough to prove that you are talking crap whenever you write about what happens on a rugby field.   It is just plain dishonesty that takes over when you deal with De Allende and Steyn and with virtually all players you dislike as against all your favourites.
I really am wasting my time even responding to you - Dave has got it right, you are either rugby knowledge deficient or you are plain dishonest by conjuring up explanations that does not fit what happened on the field of play.     
 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jun 2015, 21:12
#13
02 Jun 2015, 21:12#13
 Loved the bone tossed to Lambie! ????
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