Vegas massacre dead and 515 wounded
Terrible what happened in Vegas.
Only the most ignorant, brainwashed and biased fool would try to pin this on ISIS or any other terrorist group with the evidence at hand.
Never heard of these things before but it seems they're pretty easy to get hold of if you live in Nevada.
Complete madness.
The murderer doesn't look like a muslim ... but one never knows these days.
Sounds as if he had everything one could want in life ... and yet it wasn't enough.
Tragic.
23 guns in 10 different bags were found in his hotel room
Thousands of rounds of ammunition, found in his hotel room, and also in his own home.
He smuggled this into his hotel room over the period of a few days
He also had 19 other guns along with explosives in his private residence.
This obviously took some planning
42 guns found in total.........
One supposes that the truth will come out eventually.
Terrible news though.
I understand and agree with the right to bear arms and protect one's family.
I also understand that certain people collect weapons as a hobby.
I also understand that a lot of Americans believe that the "war" that they may face one day as civilians may come from within the United States itself, therefore the necessity to arms themselves with enough guns and ammunition in case of any civil unrest or riots etc etc.
The two main arms suppliers in the US had their collective share prices go up by nearly 3%, overnight, since this shooting took place, purely because members of the public ran out to buy guns before any restrictions or stricter laws were implemented, as a result of this mass shooting.
Crazy.......
I don't however understand how one person would want or need 42 different guns, but again, it is a hobby and a sport for millions of people.
However....having said that, I also see no difference with a guy who has 42 different guns, with 200 rounds per gun, or a guy who has one AK-47 with 8400 rounds of ammo.
Something needs to change though, I don't know if it's the culture of guns in the USA, or the casual availability of them to almost anyone, with very few, if any, checks in place.
32 000 gun deaths a year, in any country.... needs some attention
If they ban guns it would only serve to illegal obtaining and even more difficult to control and are they going to ban knives as well?
One has a crime fascination by many in the US and I smell a rat in this case as well.
Here is a very sobering thought.
There were 6 other mass shootings in the USA in this last week alone, that never made the international news.
A mass shooting is described as "four or more people shot in one incident, not including the shooter"
And the "Gun Violence Archive" states that in the USA alone, there is a mass shooting every 9 out of 10 days... on average.
Now that is crazy
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October 03, 2017, 12:21:45
Beeno pinning it on the Muslim community again when the evidence so far tends to point to a rather rich and privileged white guy who became completely unhinged. So much for Tr.ump promising all Americans would be safe under his command. His focus has been totally on building a wall to keep the Mexicans out, stopping all immigrants especially those from eastern countries from entering and patrolling peaceful Muslim communities. They must be secretly asking the question everyone wants to know .....so Mr Prez how do you keep anyone safe with psychos running around the place like Stephen Paddock?
According to the "Guardian.com" website, there have been 1 516 mass shootings... in the last 1 735 days... preceding this Vegas shooting.
One cannot just ignore those crazy numbers.
273 mass shootings in the USA for 2017 already.
483 mass shootings for the whole of 2016.
You need a drivers license or social security card to buy from Walmart, in a lot of states, but as Denny says, some states are quite different.
There is a list of questions you need to answer on the form.
Most are supposed to do a background check through the FBI, but whether that really happens all the time is anyone's guess.
From what I could find on the web:
The background check is often nearly instantaneous. But if the check turns up a possible match to a prohibited person, the system will instruct the dealer to delay the sale while the information is checked. If a resolution is not reached within three days, the dealer has the option to go ahead with the sale or wait for authorities to complete their investigation.
The NICS check was mandated by the Brady Act in 1993 and went live five years later. In the more than 14 years since, the FBI says 166 million NICS checks have been performed, resulting in more than 1 million federal denials, most often as a result of criminal convictions. In Connecticut last year, 237,496 background checks were performed.
That background check is not required when individuals who are not federally licensed gun dealers sell weapons informally or at gun shows or when weapons are transferred between relatives. This week, two U.S. senators, Republican Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and Democrat Joe Manchin of West Virginia, released a proposal to extend background checks to all sales at gun shows, over the Internet and between strangers, while continuing to exempt “personal transfers” between relatives and friends.
Police now say they need to speak to the Asian girlfriend and we will have to wait for the facts to emerge.I see that witch Hillary Clinton had zero to say about that armed church member who stopped a massacre in church by shooting the terrorist. What a skank this vile corrupt creep is. Imagine supporting abortion up to term!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!A friend of mine years ago was at St James Church the morning that terrorist came in and shot people. A member of the congregation happened to have a gun and shot at the coward who immediately fled.Planes, guns, cars and knives do not kill people. People do. Beeno setting the record straight and knocking some sense into very thick skulls!
Rooitwit demolished in two easy steps.
LMAO!
Warped DUD the loon very easily dispatched. What a thick prick this twit is..
Yes ISIS does recruit online etc. ISIS say he was a convert of some months back. Lets see what emerges from the investigation.
This whole thing was very carefully planned over a period of time. This guy did not snap. The "ASIAN" he was living with should know something. I also recall the British press covering up muslim terror by calling them Asians - also the R otherham groomers were said to be Asian. We shall see.


