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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Oct 2017, 14:24
#81
04 Oct 2017, 14:24#81
 
Jimmy Kimmel Didn’t Cry for the Nearly 59 People Shot Each Month in Chicago


During the opening monologue on Monday’s Jimmy Kimmel Live!, host Jimmy Kimmel cried over the Las Vegas attack, pushed for more gun control, bad-mouthed Republicans, but did not say a word about the number of innocents gunned down in Chicago every month.

Kimmel rightly lamented the “59 innocent” who are dead as result of the Las Vegas attack, but there was a not a peep about the nearly 59 a month on average that have been killed year-to-date in Chicago in 2017.

The Chicago Tribune reports that the current death toll for Chicago 2017 sits at 527.

Moreover, Kimmel’s monologue contained no lamentations for the more than 63 individuals who were killed on average every month in Chicago during 2016 (the Chicago Tribune reported a total of 762 murders for 2016). And nothing was said for the nearly 4,400 victims who were shot and wounded during 2016. 

But Kimmel suggests Republicans ought to be ashamed for not passing more gun control now.

Chicago is a tough one for the left because all the gun control imaginable has been tried–including an all-out ban on handguns — so Chicago is actually a case study in the ineffectiveness of gun control; an example of how murder numbers rise when strict gun control laws are in place.

For example, the handgun ban was instituted from 1982 to 2010 and Breitbart Newsreported that the death toll was much higher during that time. Chicago Police Department reports show there were 850 homicides during 1993. That is nearly 100 more homicides in 1993 than the 762 homicides for 2016. Moreover, the Chicago Police Department shows there were 930 homicides in 1994; 921 homicides in 1991; and a startling 940 homicides in 1992. If you break these figures down by averages, it means over 78 individuals were killed every month in 1992, 70 were killed every month in 1993, and 77 were killed every month in 1994.

Where is the hand-wringing for these deaths?

We should mourn every innocent life that was taken in Las Vegas and we should be outraged at the animal who took those lives. But we should also be broken over the death that continues to mark Chicago and we should be outraged at the vestiges of gun control that continue to make the acquisition of self-defense handguns a difficult proposition.

The hypocrisy of these loons on the left is shocking! 


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2017, 15:36
#82
04 Oct 2017, 15:36#82

In a way, I guess it's a fair question to ask..... But I just don't think it's a fair comparison.


For instance, I would assume that most, if not all, of those Chicago deaths were drug - gang and crime related, with some innocent bystanders or victims involved as well. 


What I mean is, those 59 people a month in Chicago were not sitting around singing Christmas carols on some random Chicago street, attending a concert or playing in the park with their families and someone just came along and wiped out all 59 of them with a semi automatic weapon or a bomb... in one go.


When they are isolated events, they tend to go unnoticed, because we have mostly become desensitised to these individual acts, that certainly add up in number..... because we hear about it or see it happening far too often, every day.


It's human nature to be more appalled when it involves a lot of people at some isolated event, and involving people, who one would expect, would not be targeted at those specific events.


Another random and completely different example:


Every year, over a 12 month period....around 36 000 people die in the USA..... just from the flu...... and over 200 000 are hospitalised because of that same flu.... every single year.


Now.... Imagine 36 000 people in the USA died in the very  first month of 2018, from that very same flu..... I assure you that it would receive far more attention then, compared to basically no attention that it currently receives now, because the numbers gradually accumulate over a 12 month period and it is not one sudden event.


That's my take on the article you posted.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2017, 15:57
#83
04 Oct 2017, 15:57#83
Personally I would be perfectly comfortable with guns only in the hands of the military and the police. I think far more people are hurt by guns than protected by guns. DA many of those dying in Chicago are innocent bystanders, many children. And all this hunting stuff with modern weapons is disgusting......shooting defenceless basically captive animals....captive electronically if not by fences. .. But there are knock on requirements. Stop and search constraints would have to be lifted, profiling would have to be part of the agreement. And Hollywood would have to stop making gangster movies.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
04 Oct 2017, 16:18
#84
04 Oct 2017, 16:18#84
mozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
Posts: 21568 RE: Vegas massacre dead and 515 wounded
October 04, 2017, 15:57:47

And all this hunting stuff with modern weapons is disgusting......shooting defenceless basically captive animals....captive electronically if not by fences. 

 

One of the worst documentaries I watched a while ago was the one about the international hunters coming over to Africa to shoot our Lions.


The Lions cannot run or escape, they are bred to be shot and mounted somewhere in the world on a wall.


There were many different hunters involved, but mainly Americans.


It made me angry, sick, and disgusted.


The farmers, if you can call them that, who do this, are equally disgusting


Some articles:


Canned Lions


Captive Lions


Blood Lions


Canned Hunts


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Oct 2017, 16:37
#85
04 Oct 2017, 16:37#85
 Criminals can smuggle in opium etc and they can smuggle in Guns. Criminals will always have guns. Questions is do you want to be able to defend yourself because the police most often cant.Demorats security programme - take away guns and import jihadists. Am erica said no!
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2017, 16:43
#86
04 Oct 2017, 16:43#86
Just ordered the Blood Lions documentary from Amazon. I don't agree with the massacring of birds either. Read the story of the Carrier Pigeon sometime.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2017, 19:05
#87
04 Oct 2017, 19:05#87
I think there is a problem with control through legislation,    The question always remaining is - will it keeps the possession of guns our of the hands of the lunatics and criminals?   The answer is no and the legislation will always have administrative problems.
I think it is difficult enough as it is and I think ur would work in some countries - it won't in others,     
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Oct 2017, 22:55
#88
04 Oct 2017, 22:55#88
 16 questions that need answers:I have not been able to copy some important comments so go to this link and some parts are cutting off 
16 questions

As you will see below, the evidence is mounting that there were multiple shooters and that this was an operation that was planned well in advance.  But according to the mainstream media, a 64-year-old retired accountant with a flabby physique that had no military training whatsoever and that wasn’t very experienced with guns was able to pull the whole thing off all by himself.  We are being told that Paddock was a “lone wolf” that didn’t have any ties to terror groups, and since he is now dead nobody is ever going to be able to interrogate him. 

But the American people definitely deserve some answers about what took place, and that means that all of us should keep digging.

The following are 16 unanswered questions about the Las Vegas shooting that the mainstream media does not want to talk about…

#1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?

#2 Were there additional shooters?  A taxi driver reportedly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window.  A video from another angle and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on.  And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video should definitely do it.

#3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”, and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?

#4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used.  So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?

#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?

#6 How did someone with “no military background” and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons?  Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.  I really like how Natural News made this point…

#7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?

#8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?

#9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 to the Philippines last week?

#10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place?  Did she know what was about to happen?

#11 Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?

#12 Why was ISIS so eager to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection?

#13 Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals”.  If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?

#14 Why did he move so frequently?  It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.

#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?…

#16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target?  Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible?  And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa in any way?





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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Oct 2017, 22:56
#89
04 Oct 2017, 22:56#89
 I listened to a recording of the shooting and one can detect at least two different sounds of shooting.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
04 Oct 2017, 23:12
#90
04 Oct 2017, 23:12#90
 Dumbarse making sh!t up again eh ? You should try having some bastard shoot at you sometime[soonish] it really sharpens your hearing .One weapon fired at a time dopey several weapons used .Moron says what now ?
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Oct 2017, 09:54
#91
05 Oct 2017, 09:54#91

So it seems that the girlfriend can't offer any insight into why he acted like he did.


She thought he was wiring her the $100 000 in money, to buy her family a home, as a way of breaking up with her....... Yeah.... like most people do.


Interestingly, he bought 33 of his weapons within the last 12 months preceding this attack, with the last few of those weapons.... bought just a few days before the attack.



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Oct 2017, 09:56
#92
05 Oct 2017, 09:56#92
Dumb Ass, please note that when Wardad said "dumbarse" he was actually referring to Baboon-ou, not you.

You're "Dumb Ass". No need to respond to "dumbarse" as well.

Just thought I'd clear that up.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Oct 2017, 11:07
#93
05 Oct 2017, 11:07#93

Oh dear me, Piss Mint


The fact that you even took the time and effort to try and clear this one up for anyone here on this forum, just shows how blatantly dumb and stupid you really are.


I did not reference anything that Wardad posted in his post, in my post... I in fact referenced some of the 16 questions that Beeno posted.


I have no doubt at all, that the rest of the posters on here picked that up, except for the resident isolated twat with the limited intelligence.... you know.... you. 


Too funny

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Oct 2017, 11:50
#94
05 Oct 2017, 11:50#94
 How does a dumb ass like warped DUD survive on a day to day basis. He is a raving loon.On the clip I heard there were two two different sounds simultaneously> Some body explain first to dumbass twit warped DUD what simultaneously means and then explain to him very slowly what one guy couldnt shoot two guns simultaneously ( Explain again of course what simultaneously means for the dope)Bwahahahahahahaha 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Oct 2017, 11:57
#95
05 Oct 2017, 11:57#95
 Rooitwit best you explain why ISIS claiming responsibility = Beeno says ISIS did it. Bwahahhahahahahahahaha what a complete ass you have made of yourself again. By now I must have had 15 years of comedy provided free of charge by this buffoon rooitwitterbug. Laughter is the best medicine and I sincerely thank ou rooiwtit for his very generous gift to my excellent health! HahahahahahahahahahahaOu warped Dud tries but he is not in the same class as ou rooitwt! his ravings are far too absurd if you know what I mean 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Oct 2017, 11:58
#96
05 Oct 2017, 11:58#96
 What’s New & Mysterious In Las Vegas Massacre?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Oct 2017, 12:05
#97
05 Oct 2017, 12:05#97
We should offer the FBI the services of our resident Sherlock Holmes.

The gullible and ignorant Baboon-ou surfing his alt-right websites and finding clips that other right wing nazis with similar loony conspiracy theories to Baboon-ou but - unlike him - who have the tiniest bit of technical ability and have edited, photo-shopped or manipulated pictures and videos to suit their conservative redneck agendas.

Now why couldn't the FBI go to sites like Conservapedia and find out everything they need to know there?

LMAO!
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WardadPro6,663 posts
05 Oct 2017, 12:35
#98
05 Oct 2017, 12:35#98
 Rooie I have a working hypothesis that wee Baboon-ou is the offspring born of miscegenation ,namely that of simian love of its own fecal mat ter and masturbation.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Oct 2017, 13:03
#99
05 Oct 2017, 13:03#99
Australian Hotel Guest Next To Vegas Shooter Just Blew Investigation WIDE OPEN With What He Said He SawOu warped DUD could be taking another big dive it seems if this Ozzie is right. HahahahhaahhahaWhat a raving lunatic who naturally finds common cause with thatwell know egg magnet rooitwitterbug


 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Oct 2017, 13:12
#100
05 Oct 2017, 13:12#100
 Oaks Sherlock Beeno is open to all genuine info on this case. The bigoted close minds of ou rooiT wit and his hapless ally warped DUD HAVE NO SUCH INTEREST.
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Oct 2017, 13:24
#101
05 Oct 2017, 13:24#101
 What a laugh Beeno, this video doesn't provide any credible evidence and just feeds into people's prejudice about "main stream media" . Let's wait for the facts to come out.
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
05 Oct 2017, 13:27
#102
05 Oct 2017, 13:27#102
Am I alone in thinking this whole shooting just does not make sense? I mean obviously, what happened was a senseless act, but the shooter himself and what is known about him so far just does no collate with a mass killer. Maybe I have watched one movie too many, but I wonder if he was not forced in some way? Or maybe there were others involved and they somehow made it look like this guy was responsible? 
Normally after a little scratching around in the history of shooters like this the links to terror groups or mental issues or criminal issues surface relatively quickly, but there is just nothing to suggest this guy was anything other than normal.   
Something just does not add up.  
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Oct 2017, 13:31
#103
05 Oct 2017, 13:31#103

There are far too many things happening in this world every day, that cannot be justified or explained.


I for one, am not going to overthink anything regarding what happened with this incident.


At face value, nothing makes any sense in this incident, but.... does it have to?

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Oct 2017, 13:46
#104
05 Oct 2017, 13:46#104
 
Multiple shooters would explain the high amount of injuries. It's only logical with the two broken windows.

I can't see a loony toon like this running between rooms when he had such a perfectly good vantage point over his intended target. He had help. No way he would have managed to do what he did by himself. There is more to this.

Interesting info about a possible gun running deal going wrong and how they tried to cover it up. They certainly are trying to cover something up. Imagine what kind of a sh!tstorm would erupt if it turns out that their very own people were supplying ISIS with weapons.

Something is amiss.

Keep coming with that info BeanDip.

Oh and don't take Fat's the sheep shagging hick seriously. He's probably spawned most of his children from those poor creatures. He has no shame.

 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Oct 2017, 13:47
#105
05 Oct 2017, 13:47#105
Maybe he just really REALLY hated country music?
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
05 Oct 2017, 14:01
#106
05 Oct 2017, 14:01#106
Hahahaha @ Rooiters! If it was R&B even I may have taken a few pot shots! 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Oct 2017, 14:11
#107
05 Oct 2017, 14:11#107
Jokes aside, Paddock did leave a note behind that might explain a lot. You'd think the authorities owe it to the families of the victims to disclose what the note says?
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
05 Oct 2017, 15:13
#108
05 Oct 2017, 15:13#108
 This world has become a horrible place hey.
G0d didnt intend for it to be like this.
WHat a sad place it is...
Too many children, innocent women and men dying mercilessly.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Oct 2017, 15:31
#109
05 Oct 2017, 15:31#109
This dumbass just bought the media reports that Tillerson called Trump a moron, now flatly denied by the State Department. Silly gullible twit.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
05 Oct 2017, 16:24
#110
05 Oct 2017, 16:24#110
Rooinek

Status: Rugby Legend
Posts: 6064 RE: Vegas massacre dead and 515 wounded
October 05, 2017, 14:11:34

Jokes aside, Paddock did leave a note behind that might explain a lot. You'd think the authorities owe it to the families of the victims to disclose what the note says?

 

You'd also think that even a utterly stupid moron like yourself, would not judge the authorities on anything just yet, until something like this has been confirmed.


It has already been 100% confirmed that there was no suicide note left behind, only a piece of paper, which could be anything, so where do you get this factual information that he left a note behind?.


Also, why would you expect any information being issued now, if the investigation was still at such a sensitive stage.


You must try incredibly hard, every day,  to always come across this dumb


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Oct 2017, 20:42
#111
05 Oct 2017, 20:42#111
 Ou rooitwit taking his daily pasting. 
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WardadPro6,663 posts
05 Oct 2017, 22:48
#112
05 Oct 2017, 22:48#112
 Play that country and western sh!t anywhere near me and y'all might wanna duck and cover too.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
05 Oct 2017, 22:50
#113
05 Oct 2017, 22:50#113
 Hey beanshithead ya still reckon Paddock is an ISIS wanker or wot ? Just another god fearin' good ol boy with an axe to grind ?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Oct 2017, 06:47
#114
06 Oct 2017, 06:47#114
 Warped DUD you loon I am not ruling ISIS out at thgis stage. The evidence has not as ye been revealed so sensible people realize one cant rule it out. Morons like you will rule out things without any evidnce to back it up. We shall see where all this goes.Bluebok  this whole thing is very odd. Clarke is a black cop.

Sheriff David Clarke: Las Vegas Investigation is “Suspicious”

Former Milwaukee Sheriff, David Clarke said on Thursday that he has been in law enforcement for nearly 40 years and he’s suspicious about everything surrounding the Vegas shooter because of the lack of public engagement

We are dealing with the Deep State FBI…how can we trust them?

Wednesday night a press conference was held jointly by the FBI and the local Sheriff in Las Vegas concerning the recent killing of at least 59 people in that city a few days ago.  The Sheriff was very transparent in the information he supplied.  But the major question that everyone wants to know is – why did the killer do it?  What was his motive?

At this point, the FBI Investigator took the microphone.  Instead of providing any information relevant to the mass murder – suicide, he berated everyone there and the millions watching on TV.  The Special Agent In Charge for the Las Vegas Division of the FBI said:

Our resolve is firm.  We will get to the bottom of this no matter how long it takes…we must focus on facts.  We cannot give into conjecture.  We cannot respond to every little Twitter feed that may indicate a theory.  We need to be focused on the facts.  You need us to be right.  You expect us to be right and we want to be right….

After interviewing the killer’s girlfriend and God knows what else the FBI has uncovered, they provide nothing.

The FBI’s lack of transparency along with the corrupt and criminal acts by former FBI Directors lead all of America to begin forming conspiracy theories and to further lose trust in the FBI. 

It’s time that the FBI cleans shop and restores it name and reputation.

The Islamic State tripled down on the Las Vegas massacre on Thursday.

The Islamic terrorist group claimed Stephen Paddock converted to Islam six months ago.

On Monday ISIS released a statement on the Las Vegas shooting then doubled down on its claim in a rare second statement later the same day.

What does the FBI know about Paddock’s association with ISIS or evidence that he converted to Islam? The Las Vegas Sheriff only once briefly floated the idea that maybe Paddock was radicalized.

The American people deserve to know what pushed Paddock to shoot into a crowd of thousands of innocent people, ultimately killing 59 and injuring over 500.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
06 Oct 2017, 08:40
#115
06 Oct 2017, 08:40#115

Ironic isn't it


Piss Mint attacks Beeno for posting anything on this story that is not yet confirmed, but Piss Mint himself posts as a fact, that a "note" was found at the scene.... and then proceeds to ridicule the authorities for not releasing the information from this "note" to the families, because these authorities "owe" that to the families of the victims.


You can't really script this level of irony or  stupidity 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Oct 2017, 08:51
#116
06 Oct 2017, 08:51#116
Not confirmed?

Pfffffffffffffhahahahahaha!

Dumb Ass living up to his name!
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
06 Oct 2017, 08:55
#117
06 Oct 2017, 08:55#117

Oh I see


So, according to you then..... a note actually has been found and it has been confirmed to have detailed information regarding why this attack happened, as well as other relevant information pertaining to this attack, that the victim's families must be made aware of ? 


Link?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Oct 2017, 09:02
#118
06 Oct 2017, 09:02#118
Dumb Ass, do everyone a favour and never try to paraphrase what it is you think I'm saying.

You're way too bitter and twisted and - frankly - you're also too stupid.

I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Run along now, Dumb Ass . . .
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
06 Oct 2017, 09:08
#119
06 Oct 2017, 09:08#119

No paraphrasing needed...... how about a link to prove this post of yours.


No thinking anything, you stated a fact


Rooinek

Status: Rugby Legend
Posts: 6064 RE: Vegas massacre dead and 515 wounded
October 05, 2017, 14:11:34

Paddock did leave a note behind that might explain a lot. You'd think the authorities owe it to the families of the victims to disclose what the note says?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Oct 2017, 09:14
#120
06 Oct 2017, 09:14#120
Ummmm . . . you do know what the word "might" means do you, Dumb Ass?

Just grunt once if the question registers. Thanks.
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