ABABasquefan
Pro2,549 posts
17 Mar 2016, 21:47#42
and quit that childish "groupie" stupidity
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2016, 21:58#43
And if you bother reading my first post in this string you will see I mention Tomas Francis in the first sentence. The reporting is exactly the same.....a Headline citing the team, and a first sentence narrowing down the incident.
As for your defence of the headline...nope. If they wanted to bring it down to the two players involved, it would have read : "two springboks accused of vicious attack".
It was a general condemnation of the team, which was clarified in the article. My headline was actually much softer....no 'vicious' attack. Simply a factual description"eye gouging"
Nice try.
DEDenny
Captain12,893 posts
17 Mar 2016, 22:05#44
Moz, congratulations on a very successful sting operation......geez, Rooitjies not only swallowed the bait he gulped the fishing rod as well!
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Mar 2016, 22:25#46
My god it's hard to believe the depths of childishness and infantile petulance that Moffie and Dense can sink to.
And we share a board with these weak and pathetic little losers! We should all feel a bit embarrassed . . .
ABABasquefan
Pro2,549 posts
17 Mar 2016, 22:41#47
bla, bla, bla,...... bla, bla, bla,....
there's no headline attributing eye gouging to a whole team
as I said springboks is referred to Burger and Bakkies,... the headlines look for putting the lesser words possible
and if more than one player of a team are accused of diferent acts of foul
play (let say one is accused of eye gouging and another one of a
shoulder charge resulting in a dislocated shoulder and there are another
4 injured players) then it's a very diferent story,.... and, yeah, the
team could be accused of attacks (which is used to include all
the different attacks suffered by the lions in hands of different
springboks players which are then referred as "springboks", is very long
to write all the names).
And for the next time, please, don't bring rags like the "Daily Mail" as examples,.... they have no ethic at all
but no headline attributing eye gouging to a team
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Mar 2016, 22:47#48
Basque, did you mis Moz's headline quote in blue?"All Springboks did was punch and gouge"
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Mar 2016, 22:50#49
I'm not saying the media is correct with this kind of reporting, but there are more than enough examples of it being reported in this way. You don't have to like it, but it's the way of the world.
ABABasquefan
Pro2,549 posts
17 Mar 2016, 22:59#50
how can anyone accuse others of "Servile Gimp, Brown Nose, Alpha Gimp,
Lackey, whatever ...." and then come with "Moz, congratulations on a
very successful sting operation"?
mysteries of life,.... beyond any reasoning
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2016, 23:35#53
RED CARD SINKS ARSENAL AGAIN
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Mar 2016, 23:36#54
Basque, irrespective of the quotes in this thread, it's common practice for the media to generalise when it suits the agenda. The OP is typical media style. Nobody thinks the whole team and country are guilty of the act...it's a typical sensationalist headline, and given the context, not misleading at all.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2016, 23:58#57
And another headline
Springboks lose respect over stomping affair
....followed by a description of Andre Venter supposedly raking Fitzpatrick, this from the Straits Times, but I can't get it to copy and paste. One man's actions are attributed to the entire team.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Mar 2016, 00:02#58
Silly argument really, but quite entertaining for fools like me. Interesting reading between the lines.
ABABasquefan
Pro2,549 posts
18 Mar 2016, 00:05#59
and now the other article,....... "Dirty Springboks called to account",........ are you gaga or what?
where the hell is the team accused of an eye gouging in this headline?
this is already surrealist,.... I'm not wasting my time any more with this kind of nonsenses,..... bye bye
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Mar 2016, 00:11#61
Need I go on....it's absolutely standard journalistic practice to put what the writer wants in the headline. If the player or players are more interesting...they go in. If the team, as in the case of the poor maligned Boks is more interesting....the team goes in.
In this case, I put the team, for my own purposes....to fulfill my own sense of justice. And it worked like a charm.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Mar 2016, 00:16#62
Dumb Basque we are talking about a general principle here.....not just eye gouging. We are debating whether the team can be called out in the headline for the actions of one or more players....rather than the players themselves.......nothing surreal.
And as the many examples I have provided show, it's absolutely normal practice for the team to be called out in the headline.
You shot your mouth off and lost. You can pretend to leave in a huff but it fools nobody. Perhaps you will learn to mind your own business in future.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Mar 2016, 03:23#63
An idiotic heading for the thread and that remains a fact. No amount of side-swiping is needed. For every heading quoted there is a hundred headings that is accurate. So what has been done with this heading is just plain BS.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Mar 2016, 03:28#64
Ah the lackey working for his master....such loyalty in the face of recorded evidence to the contrary is commendable. A loyal little lackey.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Mar 2016, 03:34#65
Mozart
Because I oppose your rubbish does not mean I am a lackey of anyone. And read what I said - you had to go back nearly 7 years to find a report in a newspaper to support the junk heading you posted. Why come up with trivial BS like you did in this case?