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What the hell is Heinke v/d Merwe doing there

Started by Saffolk 71 REPLIES757 VIEWS· 18 Jul 2015, 14:18
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2015, 02:40
#41
20 Jul 2015, 02:40#41
The real idiot having to play with toys is always Mozart.  That makes it so interesting to read his deceptions.  When caught out his inventive lies made for interesting reading.
Just one thing - how can a Tighthead stand firm when the hooker and loosehead collapsed next to him?   Please explain and come up with that third penalty - you stupid old dolt.  

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 02:49
#42
20 Jul 2015, 02:49#42
So Mozart is an idiot who is being forced to play with toys against his will? And because of that you enjoy reading his lies? Does it turn you on Michael?
That's a messed up fetish  
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 03:22
#43
20 Jul 2015, 03:22#43
Michael, you are one twisted individual!! I just looked up your little fetish and it falls under paraphilic infantilism. 
Of course you are the seme and Moz is the uke. It all makes sense now. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2015, 04:02
#44
20 Jul 2015, 04:02#44
 Mozart
You are twisted.  That is all we can say about it.  Malherbe came on in the first half when Jannie was injured and the scrumming was even better than it was with jannie on the field - matter of fact it improved drastically after the departure of Matfield.  That is a fact. 
In the second half Malherbe came on and there was nothing wrong in the scrumming until Van der Merwe and Strauss came on at around minute 50.  Then the scrumming went pear-shaped and the real problem cases were those two.  You twisted it around to blame only Malherbe - so that is the fact in this case.  Your prejudice replaces everything again in this case.   Be realistic please - you are making even a bigger fool of yourself than you are normally.
I never said the scrumming of Malherbe was perfect - but I realise that there was walking around by Sio as well and the ref did penalize him for that in one case.  There also was a short arm penalty against the Aussies as well - so I saw the thing as it was and not as you tried to pretend it was.           


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Jul 2015, 09:31
#45
20 Jul 2015, 09:31#45
Yeah Moz I liked Morne Mellett but never as a Bok....he has slipped.
You are lying about my prop calls Bezuidenhout never featured with me that's a blatant lie.
Same can be said of Kruger, Greyling etc....I might rate these guys but never ahead of CJ, Beast, Steenkamp, Jannie and Mujati who have been my calls in the past decade.
Of these only Beast is left hanging onto a potential place in the squad. Kitshoff is better and would be my choice to start at 1 right now.
Stop lying about my takes Moz you know better than to try bullshit me....stick to keeping it real....you are making your name mud with these lies.
Bezuidenhout bwhaaahaaaaa....who the hell is he anyway?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Jul 2015, 15:31
#46
20 Jul 2015, 15:31#46
Dave if you never rated Bezuidenhout that surprises me....you were certainly a big fan of his partner flexing Faan. Another pick by weight. But let's say I was wrong in that case..look at that other list of plonkers. Look at your endless, passionate support of Moojati. Where is he now Dave?
You started this by saying I don't know props. You don't know props. 
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 15:33
#47
20 Jul 2015, 15:33#47
 He knows centres even less!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jul 2015, 16:01
#48
20 Jul 2015, 16:01#48
 Malherbe is not the finished article yet, but Straus and Heikie, together with the Ozz subs did not help. He is good enough to be in the team, but I still prefer Koch. Kitshoff will also help when he plays again. We need a 3rd hooker except Brits. I get the feeling Strauss is nosediving spectacularly.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Jul 2015, 16:08
#49
20 Jul 2015, 16:08#49
Melherbe is a powerful chap. When the scrum dominates, he can be very destructive....more so than Jannie or even Koch. For the Stormers these conditions often existed, perhaps in part because Kitshoff supplied the initial go forward.

But when that isn't true, and the scrum is static or even in reverse....his laid out posture is very vulnerable. Often this leads to him falling flat....but on Saturday he was simply cracked and then put in reverse.

With that vulnerability, subbing him on in the last 20 minutes of the WC knockouts seems  terrifying.
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becsPro4,378 posts
20 Jul 2015, 16:27
#50
20 Jul 2015, 16:27#50
 Mujati, currently weighing in at 108kg ( for the benefit of Saffex ), is still at Racing Metro but they are in talks about him moving back to England, to Sale, for the coming Season. 
He has a YouTube channel, so I am told.....if you're interested, Mozart !!  
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
20 Jul 2015, 16:29
#51
20 Jul 2015, 16:29#51
 Agreed Mozz.  Malherbe should start or not be in the 23.  Having said that,  I still want to see Koch starting against top notch opposition and Jannie should be managed,  so I would bench Malherbe and start Koch for the next 2 games.  Give Jannie a run from the bench in the last match against Argie,  with whoever gets the nod as 3 between Koch and Malherbe starting. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2015, 16:34
#52
20 Jul 2015, 16:34#52
 What is terrifying is Mozart habitual lies about what happens on the field of play.  
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 16:54
#53
20 Jul 2015, 16:54#53
 Michael grow up, please I implore you.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Jul 2015, 16:55
#54
20 Jul 2015, 16:55#54
Mujati playing for the Saints was the best tighthead in the game at the time but as per usual our Bok coach missed the boat with him.....much like useless Meyer missing out on Willemse and CJ Stander now.
Mujati is past it now much like Jannie and co are.
I said very little about Faan in his day and that's a fact and said stuff all about Bezuidenhout...blatant lies.
As for Malherbe.....the best Bok scrum of the game was when he replaced Jannie and joined Bismark and Beast...there is a reason for that...he is better than Jannie.
On comes Heinke who and the Bok scrum fails and we have some clowns concluding that Malherbe failed as they do Strauss....could you lot be more ignorant. When has Strauss ever had an issue in the scrums - NEVER is the answer until Heinke joined the equation.
A tighthead and hooker can't be expected to stand firm when the loose head is being schooled....Wake up for heavens sake.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2015, 17:03
#55
20 Jul 2015, 17:03#55
 Dave
Mozart will never wake up - he lies as habit about players he dislikes and Malherbe is one of those.
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 17:06
#56
20 Jul 2015, 17:06#56
Mujati was never the best anything at any point in his career. He did improve a lot in England, though. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Jul 2015, 17:13
#57
20 Jul 2015, 17:13#57
Fox stick to elephants you ignorant twat....no one cares what you have to say....one only needs to read your takes on de Allende in order to close the book.
Pink elephants man 
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
20 Jul 2015, 17:35
#58
20 Jul 2015, 17:35#58
Only if you promise to stick to hippos! Lol!!
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becsPro4,378 posts
20 Jul 2015, 17:48
#59
20 Jul 2015, 17:48#59
 Oh, I missed the wildlife chat.....must have been during my absence. 
I believe Mujati was held in very high esteem whilst he was over here, not just by Saffex. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Jul 2015, 18:30
#60
20 Jul 2015, 18:30#60
 Snapster is exactly right.  Strauss and Malherbe have never struggled against Oz or nz teams. 
Those writing off Strauss are being very silly. Man this place can be hilarious!!
Mujati when he was here was a serial loafer and missed by nobody when he left . We subsequently learnt from snapster how well he was doing overseas. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2015, 21:52
#61
20 Jul 2015, 21:52#61
 beeno
what upset me is the outright lies that Mozart spread on this site about De Jager and Malherbe - as well as the same things Desert Disaster is spreading about De Allende.  What they wrote is so far removed from reality that one has to wonder what they are up to.  They may just be stirring - but lies is not a method to be u sed for that purpose.   I have a feeling it goes deeper - just a case where their prejudice took over and they still want Morne and Frans Steyn into the team and Mozart is still afraid that Jannie would be under threat.  What bothers me is that as far as they are concerned - they can lie endlessly and some people may be getting wrong ideas by reading their false drivel.  
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Jul 2015, 22:29
#62
20 Jul 2015, 22:29#62
 Mike I am baffled by desert fox's weird take on matters. Dr Moz has been having a poor run of form and getting wrong too often. A sound poster floundering!Perhaps they are leading eachother astray. The strain of many years posting. Failing eyesight. Over imbibing! rasputin like influence of matfiled over his groupies! Kbbs egging them on! Ou Jw in particular. 
This is contraryism gone mad. 
Its a sad sate of affairs when good posters fall apart.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2015, 03:51
#63
21 Jul 2015, 03:51#63
Mozart's lies, but not one actual example, including the three I supposedly provided on Saturday that have been proven. Tokkie is just smarting because all three risks I predicted for months if not years, materialized to defeat the Boks on Saturday.
I have to say it was pretty stunning....and I love the way Tokkie pretended it never happened. And since then there are multiple postings about vague lies I have supposedly produced. 

Funny stuff from the prime purveyor of fiction on this site.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2015, 07:49
#64
21 Jul 2015, 07:49#64
Mozart
What really happened was clearly described by me - while falsely described by you.  You lied - I wrote what really happened.  In two of the three instances you lied - end of story.  
I did not  pretend it did not happen - I did say it happened.  What I did describe is what happened - what you described is absolute BS made up by you in the cases of both De Jager and Malherbe.
The following is what really happened as posted under another thread that you conveniently did not comment on, which countered your lies totally:-
"You specialized in lies - now don't you.  Insofar s the Hooper try is concerned - Simmons had the ball and De Jager kept him upright - any other thing would have caused a try in any event.  Simmons slipped the ball to Hooper who went over and scored.  One thing is for bloody sure and that is De Jager was not to blame for that try and you are a liar in what you wrote.  One thing is for bloody sure - Matfield would not have been able to keep Simmons out - he is physically to weak for that.
As for the other two incidents is concerned the Malherbe one is a garbled lie as well.   There were two scrums in the closing minutes of the game.  In the first scrum the scrum went slightly back and the ball was hooked and Burger trapped behind the try line and forced to dot down the ball.  That was followed by the second scrum - where Malherbe stood and kept his place and both Strauss and Van der Merwe collapsed.   Your allegations are absolute BS - and that is a fact.   Malherbe did not crack as you put it and that is a fact.
De Allende did miss a tackle on Kuridrani in that case - so that was one of the tackles he did miss.   However - he was not as bad as you and your fellow idiot made him out to be.  
The rest of your story remains standard Mozart BS AND LIES - end of story."      


If you ever write the truth on this site about players you dislike - it would be  something new.   You went for De Jager in the most savage way imaginable because he was 10 times better than your favourite Matfield and you had to find something to discredit him, especially since there was nothing that you could say about the performance of Matfield that could at all be used in his favour.   Fact is that it proves once again that Matfield is physically-deficient and useless.  Look at the scrums while he was playing compared to when he was off and look at his poor process tackles with the tackled player dragging Matfield along - needing assistance from other players to make the tackles - and the strong tackles by De Jager as examples.
     

 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2015, 14:37
#65
21 Jul 2015, 14:37#65

Oh I was very savage about Lomp......I have rarely been savager. I said he got taken by a dummy to let in a try, but otherwise was industrious . And oops....that's the truth.

 

 

 

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2015, 15:45
#66
21 Jul 2015, 15:45#66
 The Hooper issue still represents a lie on your part and you should have known clearly that you lied about it.   You grudgingly said he was industrious making process tackles - another of your ways of demeaning a player - and in subsequent messages concentrated solely on the Hooper case.
The following claptrap from another thread was typical:-

"All I saw from Lomp was a lot of process tackling. He was adequate no more in the lineouts. His ball carries we're not productive...there were no offloads, kick off takes or good passes."


Another lie - look at who took the first kick-off after halftime.


Just one thing - when have you ever seen any ball carries in traffic by Matfield where he did not go backwards or straight down and often cause possession losses and penalties  and where he passed any balls?     All De Jager's carries were in traffic and he made a better job of it than the weak Matfield could ever do.   


Is Matfield weak tackles - of which he made 3 on Saturday - not process tackles?


Just as an aside we need a lock - not a player doing zero in the engine room and loafing around in the backline where he get some balls he can pass.      


   
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jul 2015, 18:29
#67
21 Jul 2015, 18:29#67
 Moz,  someone needs to make those process tackles and if someone picks his tackles for glory moments,  someone else needs to make those process tackles too. What was it,  18 tackles in 62 minutes?   Not too shabby for a lock. Better than the flankers.  Only Scalla made more.  One more... in 80 minutes.  Lood did very well,  replacing Victor at a crucial stage,  with very little top match time prior to this match.  He was set up to fail,  but did the opposite.  Credit is due,  yet you nitpick the negatives.  Same for De Allende.  When are the new guard going to get the experience  for test rugby? When the seniors' zimmerframes weigh down their luggage too much to get past airport security? You guys are punting Fransie for Bok 12,  a guy who has been fitness issues for the last 4 years and has only played 6 tests in that time.  A bloke who has started at 12 for the Boks Against Ozz or NZ a total of,... what was it 1 time?  You say he is a competitor,  based on what?  The Boks should not waste any more time on him at 12.  He should be utility back backup at best.  Fullback suited him better,  but since his knee problem,  I don't  see him being much of an factor with long range kicks. Great player,  but he missed the boat. Time to move on. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jul 2015, 18:35
#68
21 Jul 2015, 18:35#68
? At the moment it looks like Heikie is there to make the other props in the squad look better than they are. It is a bit unfair to judge him on this one outing alone,  but why do we still need to test fringe players at this stage?  4 years of spilled opportunity. 
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Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
21 Jul 2015, 18:48
#69
21 Jul 2015, 18:48#69
Dave, to answer your original question about Heinke's inclusion in the test squad it is pretty simple according to a fellow Springbok supporter in our  group.
Either:
1, He is related to Meyer, or.
2. He is married to the RSA minister of sport youngest daughter.
Raised many a laugh at our get together to watch the OZ test.
Cheers.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Jul 2015, 19:02
#70
21 Jul 2015, 19:02#70
 Good to hear from you AJ.  Keep well... but consider sticking around for a bit.  How's things in Canookland? 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2015, 19:26
#71
21 Jul 2015, 19:26#71
 Welcome back AJ - nice to hear from you.  Hope you are very well and you keep contributing to the site.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
21 Jul 2015, 20:44
#72
21 Jul 2015, 20:44#72
Thanks guys.......but I am only back in Canada for a few weeks and then off once more.
Trust all is well with you guys and hopefully that will also hold for the Springboks.
Keep well,
Cheers for now.
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