Wave fond goodbye to JJ as he disappears into obscurity....a superb athlete, but not a rugby player. And then there is Step....a decent rugby player but an inferior athlete. Not fast, elusive or strong .....he has no weapons to hurt test opposition. In the junior game his Ettienne Botha, Wynand Olivier inside step worked.....in senior rugby is just guarantees a huge hit from a loosie.
He too will amount to nothing in test terms.
I guess you arent going to defend your world beating combination of Step and JJ? The combination you assured us was the future of Bok rugby.....Step better than Jean, JJ better than Danie?
Do you finally see how incredibly stupid it all was?
Well last I checked Serfontein was firmly in Meyer's plans......it was your hero Meyer who thought the world of him last year, despite playing him out of position at 13......where did you suck it from that Serfontein was going anywhere?
As for JJ, you are lying once again, something you have become quite good at.....when have I EVER said that JJ was better than Danie huh? Why lie about this......be man enough to answer?
Nope I did not say anything of the sort......I said JJ's performance with ball in hand against NZ was the best we have seen since the days of Danie.....that is ALL I have said and I stand by that........so in effect you lied.
As for Serfontein being better than Jean......damn right he is, he has achieved far more than Jean did aged 21 and his mark on the game will be better than Jean's as he has a better skill set than Jean......I stand by that.
Jean was good in his day, his day is long gone. Serfontein is better aged 21 than Jean was at the same age, starting with his JWC player of the tournament award and elevation to test status soon thereafter and where he has played ever since.
This kid is the real deal
Nonsense Moz, Taute had half a hand in one NZ try and JJ has had half a hand in one Bargie try.
JJ is by far our best prospect at 13, in fact the best I have seen since Gerber. Taute is a quality player and if JJ was not available, Taute would be my option at 13.
I am hoping that some of the other young 13 prospects come through like Pat Howard, Dries Swanepoel, Tyler Fisher and Stokkies Hanekom. Players like de Allende, Rohan Janse v/Rensburg and 19 year old Esterhuizen of the Sharks might also better be suited to 13 as they are all currently employed at 12.
What this clearly demonstrates is that you have no appreciation for the reality of modern day test rugby, where much of the ball the 12 recieves is in traffic. In traffic a 12 has to take contact and not pass the ball......you will find the same stats apply to Jean, SBW, Nonu and co when they play 12.
Your ignorance to reality is astounding - with your pathetic stats providing no context, one would swear test rugby was played in space and that a 12 enjoyed the luxuary of running free. Get a grip man.
As the reports on Frans in those tests clearly state - he was a huge physical presence and was sorely missed in that last test against England that we ended up drawing.
You know stuff all Mike, especially when it comes to the reality of modern day centres and their roles in test rugby.........we have long moved on from the Danie Gerber days
Fox has correctly pegged Frans' strengths....offload, long pass off either hand massive boot and ability to break the first tackle. He is very hard to put away. I would add one other strength, ability to see the field and react quickly.
Against weak opponents those strengths wont be that important....in heavy duty, defence dominated games they will be crucial. Games like the RWC.
Against the ABs/Oz Frans was a winner 8 times out of 18 for a win percentage of 44%. The Boks in total won 14 out of 38 matches against Oz/Nz in the time Frans was playing for a win percentage of 37%. In fact if you exclude Frans' matches they won 6 out of 20 matches for a win ratio of 30%
44% vs 30% I rest my case, stop digging Draaaa d..
