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Will the win against the Cheetahs prove disasterous going ahead

Started by Beeno112 REPLIES268 VIEWS· 31 May 2015, 11:37
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 May 2015, 11:37
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31 May 2015, 11:37#1

Of course getting the win was great but will it influence matters negatively going forward.

Lets face facts the win was  based on a dominant tight five. The Cheetahs were very poor defensively missing 13 tackles by half time alone. Those raving about the Stormers backs need a reality check. Eg would Senatla have scored those two tries (a) without help of a dominant scrum or (b) against top class defence. The answer is obviously no.

As Mallet and the esteemed  Beeno have repeatedly warned the oaks, this backline will not feature against top sides.

But it gets more serious. Kolisi had to drive the ball over the line against a Cheetah back and failed. He then along with Carr couldnt stop a Cheetahs player near the line and got rolled over. We need Burger and Rhodes back. We cannot afford not to dominate at forward and these two show pony forwards are not the answer for big games. Perish the thought either of them make the Bok RWC squad!!!!



I hope the Lions will give ou Alistair a wake up call never mind top down under opponents. However the lesson has been given again and again and again. Jake of course undrstood matters and one just have to look at his 2007 RWC winning backline.


The win against the Cheetahs has to be taken with a pinch of salt. I mean how good are the Cheetahs backs when it comes to defence. I mean Rhule, Bommejies, Seargel Pietersen,  Van der Spuy, collectively are pathetic. Naka mistakenly didnt start with Benjamin and of course they greatly miss Sadie.


Poor Cheetahs loosing Marcel, Strauss, Labbers, Van Zyl to the rapacious parasitic bulle. Loosing Van Der Walt overseas. Then having Coenie, Loodt, Brussouw and Sai

die out. What chance did that fine coach Naka have?


When assessing matters like the Stormers win and the performance of Naka as coach one has to take in to account context.


We then move on to the clangers made by certain poster. Those criticising Allende were again left with mountains of egg. Those who have written off Malherbe ditto. Those criting Koch ditto. 


I note in passing ou sharkboks clanger about our bigger backs not being able to step.


Well really!! The following do. Allende, Jean, Vorster, Odendaal, JJ, Hanekom, Serfontein, Combrinck (99kg). Frans Steyn had a brillaint step before his knees gave way.


He have abundant backline talent but unfortunately the coaches of our major franchises are poor.


The biggest egg is reserved for the oaks thinking we cant play running rugby. The nobody Lions have given lie to that comprehensively. The need for a dominant tight five (matfiled has to go) and a balanced loose trio is paramount. Kriel is forcing way in. Comprehensively outplaying Hooper. We can afford one small loosie and Kriel looks to be the guy. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 May 2015, 12:19
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31 May 2015, 12:19#2
 Beeno
I have the same problem as you have.   The thing is that the Stormers will have to win their next two matches comprehensively to make sure of a home semi.  By comprehensively I mean at least one bonus point win.   
I am not a great believer of Leyds at all - he was nowhere to be found yesterday.  The person I am unhappy with yesterday  despite having covered many meters in territory gain was De Jongh.   He used to have butter-fingers and knocked on balls - yesterday it was back with a vengeance.  Any player worth his salt will exploit those lapses and the result could be catastrophic.    
It is very late in the day to make changes - but I would not have Leyds anywhere near the team during the next two matches.  Van Wyk is back and he should play.   
The other player that has gone sour is Coleman - he has now missed his last 5 kicks  at goal and is very average in other aspects of play.    
I also think that it is time to bring Rhodes and Burger back at loosie.       
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
31 May 2015, 13:20
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31 May 2015, 13:20#3
 Is the right answer Beeno a "Yes"?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 May 2015, 13:25
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31 May 2015, 13:25#4
 I think my good friend Hacked whahaha is trying to make some weird point!
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
31 May 2015, 13:27
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31 May 2015, 13:27#5
 R u already trying to make excuses for your wee Stormers getting knocked out in the play offs Beanhead? Hakwa perfectly understanding Beanheads fears
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 May 2015, 13:29
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31 May 2015, 13:29#6
Yes Mike in should come Howard and Van Wyk. Two 100 centers and a reaonably sized wing who in any event is faster than the relatively slow Leyds will help a lot.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 May 2015, 13:30
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31 May 2015, 13:30#7
 Kolisi and Carr disappear in.big games
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 May 2015, 13:33
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31 May 2015, 13:33#8
What is amazing is that the lesson being taught time and again is never learned by some OAKS.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 May 2015, 14:44
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31 May 2015, 14:44#9
No the win wasn't because of the tight five, although they certainly played well and dominated the scrums. The win was because the sma ll backs....de Jongh, Kolbe, Senatla ran rampant along with de Allende. And because Cat never misses. HasBeen you are rivalling Liarmike for sheer BS these days. 
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 May 2015, 18:31
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31 May 2015, 18:31#10
 Beeno: even when your team wins & you are making excuses
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Jun 2015, 22:57
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02 Jun 2015, 22:57#11
 Hacked waaaugh  and JW please  rubderstand that Beeno specialises in reality. Its what gives me my considerable rugby acumen edge.
Dr Mozzzzz calls my views foolish but I am pleased to say mallet agrees 100%. Mallet said teh Stormers hve the pack to win the comp but fears fior our backline when playing top sides.
Now we do okay against a Cheetahs sides that has a defence like a sive and where our forwards are on top. Two simpe question suffices. If our forwads were match by say the Chiefs could our backs win the match for us. Of course not they are far too small. Secondly name me one Super 15 side with such small backs.Bring in Howard and van Wyk for starters.Bring back Rhodes as well.
Its game set and match to Beeno who understands that you cant have only one decent sized backline player.
Lastly, Allende is far, far stronger than wee De Jongh. Allende is a freak of nature when it comes to strength. An excellent player and Bok certainty.What a pity he and Jean were not our center pair this year with Van Wyk on the wing.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Jun 2015, 22:59
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02 Jun 2015, 22:59#12
 Dr Mozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz lets see them run riot against the Highlander, Hurricane or Chiefs backs. It aint going to happen. They are simply too badly outgunned.Mallet knows this and so do I. 
Beeno keeping it real.
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
04 Jun 2015, 01:01
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04 Jun 2015, 01:01#13
 Beeno and Mallet on the same page?


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