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300,000 U.S. COVID Deaths? Not Even CLOSE - For Dr Moz

Started by Beeno110 REPLIES341 VIEWS· 17 Dec 2020, 15:21
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Dec 2020, 15:21
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17 Dec 2020, 15:21#1

Moz this is an excellent article that everyone should view.


With the way COVID-19 deaths are recorded, many may wonder if they were calculated with a Dominion voting machine and if the disease’s name is “Biden.” After all, other causes of death appear to have a funny way of ending up in the coronavirus column.

The disease that really seems to be losing “votes” to the China virus is the flu, and now even more evidence to this effect has emerged. As commentator Andrea Widburg writes:

GO TO THIS LINK:

Covid deaths badly miscalculated

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Dec 2020, 15:58
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17 Dec 2020, 15:58#2

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See new TweetsConversationDr. David Samadi, MD@drdavidsamadiDeaths in the USA over the years... 2010: 2.5M 2011: 2.5M 2012: 2.5M 2013 :2.6M 2014: 2.6M 2015: 2.7M 2016: 2.7M 2017: 2.8M 2018: 2.8M 2019: 2.9M 2020: 2.5M (as of November)
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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
17 Dec 2020, 16:26
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17 Dec 2020, 16:26#3
You simpleton...
Why would hospitals be filled to maximum capacity, were it not for more hospital admissions than usual ? Why were ice trucks needed to transport the dead-  in addition to standard means of this. 
Whatever political leader (state or country) sees their hospitals full, they "usually" insist on a lockdown. Regardless of what their first thoughts were. 
It is to avoid hospitals becoming so full they have to turn people away. That has been the main purpose of lockdowns 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Dec 2020, 17:13
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17 Dec 2020, 17:13#4

Prior to this every report I have seen shows ‘excess mortality’. But  if the death rate in 2020 doesn’t exceed prior years as this article suggests, it raises a lot of questions about ‘excess mortality’. We can believe total deaths and we can believe tests per million. The rest depends on classifications.


On tests per million the US substantially exceeds all major European countries except the U.K. That almost certainly means the US will show more positives, although in part greater numbers of sick may be generating more tests. 


The actual attribution of a death to Covid is fraught with issues....and  there are many incentives in the US system to call it Covid, both political and economic.


So we come back to ‘excess deaths’ as the bottom line. And it’s a bottom line in favor of Covid because other diseases have been  treated less intensively during the pandemic. 

The only counter argument is  a ‘within the year’ acceleration....with a later drop below trend. Possible, but it would indicate that group was at death’s door prior to Covid in any case.

The temptation is to treat these numbers as beyond dispute....but many of these numbers have a decision component. And there are lots of motivations. We will know ultimately.....but not yet. Still if mortality in 2020 ends no higher than prior years it raises a huge red flag.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
17 Dec 2020, 17:56
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17 Dec 2020, 17:56#5

Well with this COVID death toll at least no one has died of OLD AGE in the USA this year.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Dec 2020, 18:04
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17 Dec 2020, 18:04#6

Ah the good old days.....people died of ‘old age’.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Dec 2020, 18:07
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17 Dec 2020, 18:07#7

It's really no surprise to me that the brainwashed zealots who drink all of Bozo's Kool-Aid and put the disgusting piece of human slime up on a pedestal to worship are the same drooling half-wits who think Covid-19 is some kind of hoax and shouldn' t be taken seriously.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Dec 2020, 20:05
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17 Dec 2020, 20:05#8

Drooling half-wits.....here drooling half-wit......integrate x cubed between the limits of 7 and 9. Hell,  add 2 and 2 without googling it!

Hahahaha....what was your institution of highest education Potch High?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Dec 2020, 21:44
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17 Dec 2020, 21:44#9

If one were to Youtube "straight arm slap", you'd have a pretty good idea of what keeps happening to old RooiNarchist here daily.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Dec 2020, 00:34
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18 Dec 2020, 00:34#10

Covid-19 is no hoax, but it's obvious that it's been politicized to the full extent by the authoritarian left....and the sheeple have no clue.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2020, 19:10
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18 Dec 2020, 19:10#11

So I looked into this data and as usual it’s a mystery.....the data for 2020 is as of Nov15 and excludes the month of January (because covid wasn’t tracked in January.)

So it’s basically 42 weeks worth of data. Multiply the 2487000 deaths by 52/42 you get an expected 3079000 deaths.  Which is more than recent years....2813000, 2839000, 2900000.

It’s 187000 more than 2019. But much less than the number you would get if you multiplied current Covid attributed deaths of 315000 by 52/50.5 to take us through year end which is 336000 and   added that to the 2900000 deaths in 2019, which  would give an expected 3236000 deaths.

That shows up in the data as a suppression of other deaths below 2019 rates. Maybe that’s partly true. But maybe, as this crude calculation suggests, inferred Covid deaths of 187000 vs 336000 or 55% of those reported, are closer to the truth.  


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