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A guilty Felon - Trump Found Guilty

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 Jul 2024, 03:26
#161
07 Jul 2024, 03:26#161

Voltaire once said, “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Jul 2024, 04:47
#162
07 Jul 2024, 04:47#162

...and that goes for both sides Blob .

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 Jul 2024, 05:17
#163
07 Jul 2024, 05:17#163

Well there's the good side & then the other that's reinventing itself into a Christo-Fascist cult.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Jul 2024, 09:06
#164
07 Jul 2024, 09:06#164

No, we're not...stop giving into the "Evil white Christian BS"...we're more than rednecks and backward hicks...and actually the opposite of fascist.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Jul 2024, 09:14
#165
07 Jul 2024, 09:14#165

"Fascism is a complex and multifaceted ideology, but some common characteristics include:

  • Authoritarianism - no, the oposite
  • Nationalism - in a way, but patriotism is more accurate.
  • Corporatism - nope
  • Suppression of individual rights and freedoms - nope abortion wasn't banne d, it's just not an unlimited state sponsored right anymore.
  • Promotion of a strong, centralized state - nope, the opposite 
  • Often accompanied by anti-communism and anti-socialism - definitely 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Jul 2024, 09:16
#166
07 Jul 2024, 09:16#166

The Democrat P arty check way more of those boxes...all but the second and the last.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
07 Jul 2024, 10:52
#167
07 Jul 2024, 10:52#167

Authoritarianism - no, the opposite

As so it was liberal leaning judging's that granted the President immunity from the law when carrying out official acts?. And Biden didn't come out and condemn that ruling?

Nationalism - in a way, but patriotism is more accurate.

Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious. Oscar Wilde

Nationalism always portrays itself as patriotic and the other side as unpatriotic.

Corporatism - nope

I'd argue both sides serve corporate interests. With Trump he has railed against corporatism in the past in a bid to appeal to the masses but in actuality he's been rather incoherent with his policies, some of which have favoured corporations while some haven't

https://www.levernews.com/the-corporatization-of-donald-trump/

Suppression of individual rights and freedoms - nope abortion wasn't banned, it's just not an unlimited state sponsored right anymore.

So they did supress an individuals right and freedom then?

Promotion of a strong, centralized state - nope, the opposite 

Well both sides want a strong state. But yes Republican do favour a more decentralized state.

Often accompanied by anti-communism and anti-socialism - definitely 

If you think the Democrats are communist or socialist you don't understand what they mean.
But anyway on the aspects of fascism there are other ways of defining it. For example.
https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html
I think several points on that list could be considered attributes of Trumpian Republicanism.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2024, 14:14
#168
07 Jul 2024, 14:14#168

BS took over asz per normal and nobidy read the actual judgement .   Thered si nothing prevednting any President ebe ch argerd with criminal offences in the casze of US Presidents if they indeed took pesonal decisions that imply criminal actions on his part.   He cxannot eb chargfed with offcicial decisions taken - that means decisions contravenming the US Cnstitutions can also be charged if it comnes rto issues like High Treason.   For tfhe rest he canno0t eb charged of polcy decisions taken by a President.

As to Presidents with cxeriminal offenses - Smith mixeds up the issues trotally and as expectfed tgrfty to lay charges wide open to mixing policy dedcisions wsith  xcriminality and that si wshere he  got stuck in the BS situation he is involved situation.   What is clear is that SWmih ry and sue the Nancy Pelosi Committee evidence against Trump for hsi creimianl chargves - but that ws negatived by tgher House inv estigation where real fcacts became clear and also security video reciording of wghata cxuaklkt happened.    So Smith lost 90% of his evidnce  on thqat onew since the Pelosi Committee destroyed evudence provided and that in itself is a crimianl offense.   

Insocfar as  the dcouments case is concerned  the judge was not amused by evidence that the FBI spread a photo of documents lying on the floor of the storeroom and provided to gthe Media was a fake and the fact that  the FBI took 32 boxes of  docu,emts fro,mar-el-Lago- and when ordered by the Judge to return the documents to court for inspection by the lawyers representing  Trump they returned on;ly 21 boxes and even cfrfom those boxes strings of dxiocuments were removed and sh then postponed gthe trial; indefinitely.  She also heard evidence on the sisue of the appointment of Smith as Special Council - since the ervidcnce si that he ws the fiorfst private practitioner withoput any G overnment expereience as a Special Council.    So what may ahppen sis that Garland's decision to appoinmt him may be throwqn out by the Florida Judge and there is nothing Garland can do about it.

Lawsfare against political opponents is not in the itmnerest of demcorfacy and open to abuse by banana republic admirers  like siin charge in Washington at present.   

     

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Jul 2024, 14:54
#169
07 Jul 2024, 14:54#169

"So they did supress an individuals right and freedom then?"

Less so than the other side...no rights or freedoms are absolute...your freedom should not be impeding somebody else's...like a baby's right to live...or the right to bear arms...or freedom of speach....there should be limits.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
08 Jul 2024, 14:06
#170
08 Jul 2024, 14:06#170

Well, it certainly seems like things have blown up for Biden in my short time away from here... wow.... and things have probably drastically improved for Trump, regarding him beating Biden and getting re-elected.... time will tell I guess.

I still find it hard to fathom how these two guys are the only ones representing over 330 million people in a race for the oval office ......and how they just cannot do any better with choosing candidates for the presidency.

Guilty or not, it seems like the American people will probably put Trump back in office.

Regardless of what Stav might want you to believe, the various different videos of Biden acting like a two year old child who often freezes up after losing it's dummy..... these are not deep fake news videos as was mentioned by Stav with the smelling and sniffing videos of Biden that I discussed and brought up...... just like those videos that were discussed, these videos are also 100% legit........ which clearly show an adult man, not just in cognitive decline, but also in moral and principle judgement decline.......which most of Biden's closest aides tried to explain away to the general public as manipulated videos and camera angles.....lol, what a bloody farce.

Now more and more people close to Biden and from inside the White House are coming out and saying that Biden's mental and physical health has been in a rapid decline for a long time already....duh, surprise surprise.

How anybody could still buy into this bullshit is absolutely ridiculous.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
09 Jul 2024, 14:52
#171
09 Jul 2024, 14:52#171

Stav any idea why the Judge in this case has posponed  the sentencing of President Trump?

Confirmed by the Judge that a leak was discovered in the Demorat Jury pool.

Still not sufficient proof for you that my original statement is a fact I suppose.

A leak which you stated was not confirmed by your Demorat biased opinion.

BS.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jul 2024, 18:34
#172
09 Jul 2024, 18:34#172

And now the Judge postponed the verdict to 18 September 2024?    The ansswewr is simple - the Biden Administration was behind the fake charges and the Judge is awaiting further instructions should  Biden be replaced as candidate since the BS failed as an election campaign stratergy, 

    

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AJHPro3,183 posts
09 Jul 2024, 19:22
#173
09 Jul 2024, 19:22#173

The Biden DOJ BS Case against President Trump is going to be dismissed but the folks suffering with TDS just cannot accept true justice.

UNFORTUNATELY.


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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
09 Jul 2024, 19:58
#174
09 Jul 2024, 19:58#174

Stav any idea why the Judge in this case has posponed  the sentencing of President Trump?

I believe its to do with the Judge wanting to take time to consider the Supreme Court ruling regarding Presidential Immunity. 

Confirmed by the Judge that a leak was discovered in the Demorat Jury pool.

Really got a link to that?, can't find anything about via a google search. All the news that relates to that supposed leak dates back to this time last month. Nothing anywhere about a Judge confirming a jury member leaked what the verdict of the trial would be in advancing of the verdict been given in court.

Still not sufficient proof for you that my original statement is a fact I suppose.

A leak which you stated was not confirmed by your Demorat biased opinion.

Well your word alone is not sufficient proof, please provide evidence to back it up.

And how can my opinion be biased if its factual. The leak hadn't been confirmed back then and as far as I can see it's still not confirmed now . 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jul 2024, 20:37
#175
09 Jul 2024, 20:37#175

Stav

Just a correction please - the fake charges date from a time before Trump was sworn in as President - so the Supreme Court Judgement on Presidential Immunity has zero to do with the case. .       

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
09 Jul 2024, 21:03
#176
09 Jul 2024, 21:03#176
LOL Trump doesn't agree with you Mike.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
13 Jul 2024, 05:06
#177
13 Jul 2024, 05:06#177

A golf cheat, poor loser & convicted felon.

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