"Even within the same Bible version their endless contradiction that it is obvious it was written by multiple people."
True. It was interpreted by various monks and scholars at different times. Even the interpretations were reinterpreted. No wonder the contradictions. The coming together of the James 1 edition makes for interesting reading.
"There are too many questions out there that simply don't have answers."
True. And we'll never know the answers from either a religious or an evolutionist perspective.
It's a drawn game.
"None of us knows the truth, but the attack on people who choose to believe creation in the complete absence of any viable alternative theory seems like the crowing of the ignorant."
Exactly.
It's in some way similar to that age one reaches, when you stop buying new music.
You have no idea if the next new song that you hear might become a favorite.
Somewhere between ego and intellectual apathy we deny ourselves the ability to grow.
Very well said, Mozart.
That sums it up in a nutshell.
Lol CC
I was more saying that one shouldn't block out information in the same way that we naturally outgrow the desire for new music.
Went to a Post Malone concert recently. No band, no instruments and nobody else on stage. Just a guy half rapping and half singing over recorded music. That's apparently music and he's supposedly amazing.
I also notice, no young people I meet these days can play an instrument. Maybe it's because the guitar doesn't spit out a gold medal for them every five minutes.
Basically it is impossible to disprove fantasy but entirely possible to dispute scientific theory.
Example: It’s much easier to say that magic teapot created the universe and my evidence is simply because I say it has that power and you cannot prove otherwise. Go ahead and try. It’s much more complicated to provide a physical theory of how it occurred. How convenient !
Glad you all agree that God created the universe from nothing. So the only difference to the atheist theory is the presence of this magical, all powerful being/cloud floater with the same evidence of existence as the Tooth fairy, Santa Claus, unicorns, Superman etc. Got it.
You summarized the beauty and wisdom behind the original scam perfectly ! And it seems it still has a lot of takers. Have you seen how hard it is to convince an old, fat, yellow toothed woman that ‘Juan’, the surfer in Spain that is interested in her on Facebook is actually a Nigerian scammer ? I know people are desperate to believe in Sky Fairy but I am telling you, Magic Teapot is the way, the life, the light ! And...magic teapot only requires 8% of your income, not 10%. Win !
All hail the teapot, the steam and the holy whistle ! I am going to write the Gospel of the magic teapot, store it in a cave somewhere so that in a thousand years it will become fact because it’s so old.
I would say that time started with the origination or formation of existence or the formation of a Creator. I believe our universe as we know it is one of several, some bigger some smaller. Still, it doesn't answer the question of how something is created from nothing.
Question, can anyone define nothing?
Well Auge ... who better to guide us through tales of goblins and snarks than you. We've been listening to your fairy tales for years now.
"Time may have always existed" ... "However assuming the" ... "Maybe life on the other side" ... "then the assumption" ...
Hmmmmm .. this has a familiar ring to it ... I've heard it before ... but where?
I wonder?
Oh yes ... now I remember.
Sharkshit comes in with a few "may haves" and "assumptions" and "maybes" ... and who should be right there cheering him on ... none other than the desperate ... Redneck.
Sound familiar?
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May 24, 2019, 11:03Hmmm ... you seem more fixated over him than I.
Are you envious of his muscled form ... in comparison to your soft flabby self ... or does he give you a boner, SharkShit?
LOL!!
Ok, so after having a awesome long weekend, I had to come back here and see what I expected to happen, did happen
Beeno, as usual...... has no answers
Cool...... just as I thought
"What i can assure him is that God created whoever created the pyramids and gave them enough intelligence to figure out how to do it."
So currently, you and every other scientist in the world cannot tell or prove to anyone, who built these pyramids...… but you want to keep preaching to everyone here, that you have conclusive proof that God created the universe?
LMFAO
In all honesty DA ... you have to admit ... your question is rather stupid.
Do you have an answer to your question?
Please clear up the mystery for us.
Thanks!!
Why couldn't the Egyptians have done it? Just because we think they couldn't have been smarter than us, doesn't mean they weren't. Isn't Khufu's name signed on one of the blocks in the Great Pyramid in a spot where it would be impossible to put except during the building of the structure? Isn't that the proof that made Graham Hancock, for example, abandon his theory about the pyramids being much older than claimed ?
I'm a bit rusty on this, recalling from memory, so feel free to correct me.
"In all honesty DA ... you have to admit ... your question is rather stupid."
In all honesty, preaching to people that you have conclusive proof that God created the universe.... is stupid
In all honesty, preaching to everyone that God created DNA is stupid
The reason why they are both stupid, is because in Beeno's own words, he himself said that he has no idea who built the pyramids, and doesn't care either......and there is no proof of who did build them, and these were created only a few thousand years ago...… in evolution timeframe......, that was last year
Beeno however, has clearly stated on multiple occasions now, that he has conclusive proof that God created the universe, which happened millions of years ago...…., yet he cannot prove what happened just recently with the building of the pyramids
That...… is stupid
DA you absurd halfwit. Surely even a nutjob like you realizes that nothing can't create anything.
That is a definite. Given the magnificence of the universe its compl etely rational to deduce a Supreme being created this universe.
We know intelligent beings created the relatively simple pyramids and its blindingly obvious an stupendous Supreme Being, God, created the Universe.
Game set and match.
An atheist walking in the forest picked up a beautiful gold watch. Wow he exclaimed who made this.
But that same atheist when asked who created the stupendous Universe says nothing did. BWHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA man these twits are hilarious, so incredibly foolush!
My thanks to scientists many of them atheists who proved God created the Universe. What have we done they Wail! Man it's hilarious.
God has a great sense of humor!
Bye the way DA and the other atheist fools here put your vacant heads together and give me a single reason as to how a universe can create itself from nothing.
This should be hilarious! ??????
"Surely even a nutjob like you realizes that nothing can't create anything"
Simple question then Beeno
Who created your God?
You still don't get it. Nobody created God. For anything to exist DA there has to be an eternal being. Someone who has always been there. Otherwise we are called on to believe nothing created everything. An absurdity
A very powerful argument for the existence of God is the logical certainty that you cannot have a infinite regression.
Ponder this DA you are close to the truth.
Remind me again, the existence of which god exactly has science proven? Yahweh, Atum, Tiamat? Lahmu, Enki, Nüwa?
Ok Beeno, let me get this very clear
You keep repeatedly saying...….. nothing can't create anything
But...…. the n you say...… that something can always have been in existence, without ever being made or created...…… but nothing cannot create anything……….. but...… it has just "always" been there.....
Yeah... ok Beeno…...and you say I am closer to the truth
Those are the precise words of a nutjob….
ROTFLMFAO
True and good question Pakie
Not changing any topic Beeno
You are the one running around in circles now, because you are a little bit stuck trying to explain your complete and utter stupidity
You say...
"No it's very obvious to any rational mind that the universe didn't create itself from nothing"
So, I say again Beeno, and let's make this very clear indeed
You want everyone here to believe and understand...……... that something as incredible and as massive and intricate as the universe...…. cannot be created from nothing
But..... at the very same time...... you also want everyone here to believe and understand that the God that created that very same massive universe...………. was created from nothing
Got it...….
Game - Set - Match ...…. you nutjob
I don't necessarily believe that the universe has always been "everything"
It could maybe even be a "part" of something bigger
We don't know for sure...…. well, maybe Beeno does
"Why does there always have to be a "nothing"?
"But..... at the very same time...... you also want everyone here to believe and understand that the God that created that very same massive universe...………. was created from nothing
Got it...….
He never said that. He explicitly said God is eternal and was never created.
It looks though like you are conceding the point Pakster! You may be smart enough to understand nothing can't create anything!
Don't play politician, Beeno. I asked a simple question, answer it.
This DA Perv is as dumb as a rock.
He simply is incapable of grasping God is eternal. He cannot logically grasp the fact you cannot have an infinite regression.
It seems its all way beyond the very limited HALFWIT.
Reasoning is clearly not poor DA strong point. He is in way over his empty head.
You start with an eternal being or you start with nothing. Then you make the blunder of saying nothing created the universe.
The fact that staggers scientists is that they say now say matter is not eternal and that once there was nothing and now there is something.
Poor wee DA's tiny mind is blown out.
DA stick to simpler things like rugby. This must be very frustrating for you to not be able to grasp all this but if you haven't got it you haven't got it. Very sorry DA but you are too thick to delve into these matters.