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Darya Dugina Car Braai - Latest Russian Casualty

Started by sharkbok49 REPLIES1,088 VIEWS· 21 Aug 2022, 19:13
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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
21 Aug 2022, 19:13
#1
21 Aug 2022, 19:13#1

Now the shoe is on the other foot. 

An ardent supporter and propogandist of Putin's war will no longer be available to express ongoing cheerleading of the war. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62621509

Now Russians are starting to learn what being in a war is actually like.
It was fine for them to destroy Ukraine and call it a liberation movement while sitting safely in Moscow. 

Now that Ukraine has Western Tech and had time for more training, the Russian Army can see they are just cannon fodder and part of Russia's greater glory. Mere pawns to be sacrificed, while the important Russians sit at home "safe".

Although, that is clearly starting to change. The target may have been the father of Darya Dugina. Now this bastard has the death of his daughter on his hands. He can experience the effects of war first-hand. Something that Ukraine has suffered for ages while they are at the Ballet. 

It is not clear if was organised by Ukrainians or rebel Russians. Either way, they were warmongers who support Putin's murder campaign. 

The myth that the Russian army is a 21st-century power has been exposed as a joke. Our boys would take Russians out very quickly. The power and might of NATO and the West exposed Russia as a backward regime that is dependent on natural resources like Gas and oil. Once green energy is readily available, Russia will not have a pot to piss in.  


 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Aug 2022, 19:17
#2
21 Aug 2022, 19:17#2

So now we're supporting a terrorist attack/assassination on an innocent women because her dad and Putin are buddies?

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
21 Aug 2022, 19:25
#3
21 Aug 2022, 19:25#3
She is hardly innocent. She is part of the propaganda and brainwashing regime. 

Dugina, 29, had also been a vocal proponent of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, per the Daily Beast. This year, she was sanctioned by the US in connection with a contribution to an article in which she argued that Ukraine would "perish" if admitted to NATO.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Aug 2022, 19:37
#4
21 Aug 2022, 19:37#4

OK, so it's fine to blow her up then...got ya...

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Aug 2022, 19:37
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21 Aug 2022, 19:37#5


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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
21 Aug 2022, 20:46
#6
21 Aug 2022, 20:46#6

Not just fine, it is fantastic. 

You don't understand, just like the other simpletons who support Russia, and who are no longer classified as Westerners. Putin has become the Messiah of the Christian faith. It does not need to make sense, all will become clear in the end (to quote the Substantial fool). 

It is fine for Ukraine to be destroyed and turned into a nation of refugees and for many innocent Ukrainian people to be killed. You support this...

Now Putin and the other warmongers in Moscow can think twice anytime they start their car... are they next?
Finally, they are starting to get the experience of being in the war. The real-life consequences... Although it might be Russians and not even Ukrainians, that planted the bomb.

I would much rather see the top dogs organising and promoting the war get killed than say kids in an army. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Aug 2022, 07:42
#7
22 Aug 2022, 07:42#7

I see...terrorism is fine under conditions you approve of...got it.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
22 Aug 2022, 07:57
#8
22 Aug 2022, 07:57#8

Pity they didn't target Putin himself.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Aug 2022, 10:28
#9
22 Aug 2022, 10:28#9

They can't get close to him...this probably only p!$$ed him off even more.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
22 Aug 2022, 12:50
#10
22 Aug 2022, 12:50#10

The father must still be a target, hopefully, they blow him up as well.
However, Putin would be the grand finale, the crème de la crème.

These Russians are probably more scared of war than any other country. Cowards...
They are so scared of NATO, and because of their actions, they will now have NATO on their border because Finland & Switzerland are joining NATO due to Putin's actions. 

Draad is a fool, like Beeno. Both cheer on Russia.
By the way, killing terrorists is not terrorism. What a clown...





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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
22 Aug 2022, 14:23
#11
22 Aug 2022, 14:23#11

Cant agree with this, killing civilians because of something they support or who their parents are?

Knocking off Putin or other members of government or the military is fair game as the countries are at war so on that front go for it, but I cannot condone the death of civilians even if they do support the war.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
22 Aug 2022, 14:50
#12
22 Aug 2022, 14:50#12

I disagree.
I believe the Dugina family are open game.

It is better to take out key political targets than randomly drop a bomb on a civilian area. (Like Russia has been doing). 

Darya Dugina and her father were part of the political machine that justifies the war on Ukraine. She is active in the media promoting the war against Ukraine, saying that if Ukraine joins NATO they must all be destroyed. (That is terrorism). 

She is doing a lot of damage, not just supporting the war but appealing to younger voters. 
She is evil and should be destroyed. It is war, not tiddlywinks. Death is part of the package of war. The only way to make a statement is to start taking out the political leaders in Russia. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Aug 2022, 15:03
#13
22 Aug 2022, 15:03#13

The day you start siding with car bombings, targeting civilians in an urban area is the day you should reevaluate your position...what if there were collateral casualties???

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Aug 2022, 15:09
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22 Aug 2022, 15:09#14
I never heard of this women before or her father so I've no idea who they are or how much influence/power they wield, so I've no idea if they could be considered justified targets but I'd also be very uneasy about targeting civilians.

Anyway looks like some sort of Russian anti Putin resistance group has claimed responsibility.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
22 Aug 2022, 15:28
#15
22 Aug 2022, 15:28#15

Draad you are a fool. You are just removing context. 
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. 

The only way you could understand this is if you were Ukrainian.
Putin has a special place in your heart, so you are incapable of thinking logically. 

Russia is the aggressor, and Ukraine is defending itself. 

If a country starts bombing another country, the innocent country can either fight back or be destroyed. 
Sure they are going to kill innocent people by fighting back, but the alternative is to have more of their own innocent people being destroyed. That is what war is. 

Ukraine never choose this war, but they have to defend themselves. 
The father Dugina is a Nazi that wants Russia to conquer the world. His daughter is no different. Much of Putin's material is based on the Dugina philosophy. 

She goes on TV calling for the destruction of Ukraine if they join NATO etc, etc.
She is damaging the Russian psyche.  Just like the media people that go on TV and show them destroying countries with Nuclear simulations. 

Sometimes in war, they could get a better target like Putin- but opportunity is limited and Dugina was the best they could get at this moment.

Now all Russians will understand the brutality of war. This will certainly have an impact. They won't feel so safe anymore. Not invincible with their nuclear weapons, when they can be killed within Russia. 

I still think the best way to end the war against Russia, is to start attacking Russia.
Once their people see what it is like to live in a war field, they will start to understand war. 


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
22 Aug 2022, 16:35
#16
22 Aug 2022, 16:35#16

If she was an active part of Russias aggression on the Ukraine then fair enough.

I was simply concerned that they were targeting innocent family members to get those in power.

Civilians are always the biggest losers in a war they are taking no part in and never wanted.

Sooner we move on from people's egos getting in the way of people the better

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Aug 2022, 17:17
#17
22 Aug 2022, 17:17#17

Snarkhole...I'm not removing context, you're the one trying to paint terrorism as justified ....you've got no moral compass at all...wrong is always wrong regardless of context.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
22 Aug 2022, 17:31
#18
22 Aug 2022, 17:31#18

Sure Draad. Your moral compass is religion.  Somehow you have the moral high ground because you associate yourself with religion. 

If you were Ukrainian, and your life was ruined because of Russia, you would attack them. 
Or you would be a spineless deserter that left with the female refugees to scare to fight. 

Ukraine must strike back. The Dugina's are not civilians. They are the architects of Putin's war. They support the deaths of innocent Ukrainians, and it does not end there. They want to conquer the old USSR, and move into Western Europe. They are Nazi's, is that simple. 

They don't care that millions of Ukranians' lives are ruined as they are scattered across Europe, or the many innocent Ukrainians that have been bombed. They are l ike the Taliban. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Aug 2022, 17:59
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22 Aug 2022, 17:59#19

This is typical of the people like SB and Stav.  If people disagree with their political viewpoints they rejoice when they are murdered and then they say they are liberals and caring for humans.  .   They have tried that stunt in the USA as well.  Incitement of Democrats to kill Republicans  or for that anybody that could prevent their socialist  dictatorship program.   Numerous examples of that.  

So must one accept that Liberals and Socialists hate everybody who does have a difference of opinion from theirs and would rejoice those people are murdered.    .   

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
22 Aug 2022, 18:25
#20
22 Aug 2022, 18:25#20

@DumbMike, 

Stav said he did "not" support this in principle.

I was the one who said it is justifiable to kill propagandists who support the attack on Ukraine.  These are people with blood on their hands, and they are not civilians. 
They were already pushing this stuff before Putin, and have been actively promoting the war and aggression in Russian media. 

People that are tolerant, do not have to tolerate intolerance. Nor do they have to accept things that are factually untrue.

Russia has been brainwashed, and needs to be made free. This could be the end of the KGB regime in Russia, and it will be replaced by Democratic people like the current Ukraine leader. 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Aug 2022, 08:10
#21
23 Aug 2022, 08:10#21

Judge jury and executioner...justifying the murder of a women...what's next for you.

"If you were Ukrainian, and your life was ruined because of Russia, you would attack them. 

Or you would be a spineless deserter that left with the female refugees to scare to fight. "
I'm not the running tipe...but car-bombing women is no way to fight...it's telling that you can't see this....
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
23 Aug 2022, 08:45
#22
23 Aug 2022, 08:45#22

At least I didn't say I wanted to bomb Hitler as a baby...

Just kidding

Just kidding

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Aug 2022, 08:57
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23 Aug 2022, 08:57#23


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Aug 2022, 09:58
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23 Aug 2022, 09:58#24

Apparently the vehicle belonged to her evil gobshite of a father, the obvious target of the bombers.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Aug 2022, 11:40
#25
23 Aug 2022, 11:40#25

 "Darya Dugina Car Braai - Latest Russian Casualty"

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Aug 2022, 11:59
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23 Aug 2022, 11:59#26

"Dugina, a 29-year-old commentator with a nationalist Russian TV channel, died on Saturday when a remotely-controlled explosive device planted in her Toyota Land Cruiser blew up as she was driving on the outskirts of Moscow, authorities said.

Russian media reported her father, Alexander Dugin, who has backed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s war on Ukraine, switched cars with his daughter shortly before the blast."


They knew exactly who they were killing, it was no accident...or they were reckless enough not to verify who's in the car when the blew it up...real heroes.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
23 Aug 2022, 12:38
#27
23 Aug 2022, 12:38#27
One "woman" who along with her father believes war is justified to take over countries, and who go on national TV cheering this on. She and her father are fanatics, that have been talking about this stuff for many years. They want to build a new empire and believe Russia should rule the world. They want to expand the borders of Russia to Ireland through military conquest..

What about the Ukrainian women? Millions have been impacted and forced to live in other countries as refugees. 
At least the ones that have not perished in the war already. What is one "women's life for millions?
The Dugans have no remorse for them...

It is like feeling sorry for Hitler...


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
23 Aug 2022, 12:39
#28
23 Aug 2022, 12:39#28

Yep, have to agree Db

In this day and age, there is no way at all that they didn't know who was in the car when it was triggered

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
23 Aug 2022, 12:40
#29
23 Aug 2022, 12:40#29

"One "woman" who along with her father believes war is justified to take over countries, and who went on national TV cheering this on. She and her father are fanatics."

As they say, you live by the sword......

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Aug 2022, 14:48
#30
23 Aug 2022, 14:48#30

By the way SB the Ukraine presient is not  a demcoratically elected person and his conduct is not one of a Democrat.    He is a person who acts totally dictatorial and his election was a farce .   The alst democratic-elected President was elected in 2013 and was removed by a coup organized and funded by the  USA.    The result was that the Constitution was thrown out by the new regime .

Aster the 2015 election only held in areas where  tthe Ukraine government was in charge and not where Russian speaking people were in the majority.    So how democratic was that?    

The issue should have been resolved by the Minsk agreement to stop the civil  war that broke out in Ukraine after the coup.    The agreement was to get a new Federal system in place in accordance with Government system in place in terms of  a new constitution . to be approved by the electorate.   The agreement was never implemented because it was sabotaged by the  USA.    There was no Referendum held as required by the agreement and the Ukraine still ahs no Constitution.   In the meantime the Asov battalion went on a witch hunt murdering more than 5 000 people in the are under the Kiev  Government,.          

The Election in 2019 was similarly limited amd in the absence of an approved constitution could not be regarded as a democratic election.   Get some real life into your arguments anyway.      

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AJHPro3,183 posts
23 Aug 2022, 16:07
#31
23 Aug 2022, 16:07#31

Typical of Sharktwat celebrating the death of a person who is related to a confidant of Putin.

What a "BOX" he really is.

Sad.

Wonder how he would have reacted if we had taken Winnie out.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Aug 2022, 19:43
#32
23 Aug 2022, 19:43#32

"Typical of Sharktwat celebrating the death of a person who is related to a confidant of Putin."

Even Wikipedia isn't 100% sure about that...it's difficult to know what to believe these days...who and what to trust.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Aug 2022, 20:00
#33
23 Aug 2022, 20:00#33

Russian/Ukrainian politics doesn't concern me...the war is an absolute travesty/desaster...the defiance of Zelensky is odd to say the least...as were the glamorous photo shoots...something off about this war...but Putin did start it, so most of the blood is on his hands...I still can't get my head around the "why" though ...makes no sense at all!

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Aug 2022, 20:00
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23 Aug 2022, 20:00#34


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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
23 Aug 2022, 21:38
#35
23 Aug 2022, 21:38#35

These articles give a decent background of the Dugan's. They wanted Russia to take over the world and create a one-world order. 


Who is Alexander Dugin?

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Dugin, a scathing critic of the United States who has been on its sanctions list since 2015, has often been credited with influencing the Kremlin’s thinking on Russian expansion and Ukraine, although his links to Putin have been sometimes overstated and the extent of their direct relationship is unclear. Dugin doesn’t hold an official government position.

Russian nationalist Alexander Dugin gestures as he addresses the “Battle for Donbas” rally in support of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, in Moscow, on Oct. 18, 2014 (Moscow News Agency/Reuters)

Dugin, who has theorized about a perpetual war between Russia and the West for decades, has long called for the reabsorption of Ukraine into Russia. Experts say his language and expansionist views of Russia’s place in the world have been echoed by the Kremlin and in recent speeches by Putin. 

He was active in breakaway regions in the 2008 Russia-Georgia war and in 2014 in Ukraine, where U.S. officials say he recruited individuals with military and combat experience to fight on behalf of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic. The separatist enclave in eastern Ukraine has played a central role in Putin’s justification of the war.

Dugin also controls Geopolitica, “a website that serves as a platform for Russian ultra-nationalists to spread disinformation and propaganda targeting Western and other audiences,” according to U.S. Treasury officials. The website has accused the United States and NATO of provoking war with Russia to “further terrorize the American people in all sorts of malicious ways.”

Who is Daria Dugina, his daughter?

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Dugina, a Russian political commentator and the chief editor of a disinformation website called United World International, had also spoken publicly in support of the war in Ukraine and Russian expansion. The site, as one example, suggested Ukraine would “perish” if it was admitted to NATO. In March, she was added to a list of Russian elites and Russian intelligence-directed disinformation outlets sanctioned by the United States. The British government also put sanctions on Dugina this year.

Who is Alexander Dugin?

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Dugin, a scathing critic of the United States who has been on its sanctions list since 2015, has often been credited with influencing the Kremlin’s thinking on Russian expansion and Ukraine, although his links to Putin have been sometimes overstated and the extent of their direct relationship is unclear. Dugin doesn’t hold an official government position.

Russian nationalist Alexander Dugin gestures as he addresses the “Battle for Donbas” rally in support of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, in Moscow, on Oct. 18, 2014 (Moscow News Agency/Reuters)

Dugin, who has theorized about a perpetual war between Russia and the West for decades, has long called for the reabsorption of Ukraine into Russia. Experts say his language and expansionist views of Russia’s place in the world have been echoed by the Kremlin and in recent speeches by Putin. He was active in breakaway regions in the 2008 Russia-Georgia war and in 2014 in Ukraine, where U.S. officials say he recruited individuals with military and combat experience to fight on behalf of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic. The separatist enclave in eastern Ukraine has played a central role in Putin’s justification of the war.

Dugin also controls Geopolitica, “a website that serves as a platform for Russian ultra-nationalists to spread disinformation and propaganda targeting Western and other audiences,” according to U.S. Treasury officials. The website has accused the United States and NATO of provoking war with Russia to “further terrorize the American people in all sorts of malicious ways.”

Who is Daria Dugina, his daughter?

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Dugina, a Russian political commentator and the chief editor of a disinformation website called United World International, had also spoken publicly in support of the war in Ukraine and Russian expansion. The site, as one example, suggested Ukraine would “perish” if it was admitted to NATO. In March, she was added to a list of Russian elites and Russian intelligence-directed disinformation outlets sanctioned by the United States. The British government also put sanctions on Dugina this year.

In an interview with a Russian YouTuber in March, Dugina said that Ukrainian identity is mostly localized in western Ukraine, and that eastern Ukraine — including the Donbas region — was likely to accept a “Eurasian Empire” on the basis of religious faith and nationality.

In April, she argued that the slaughter of civilians in the Kyiv suburb of Bucha — which sparked calls for a war crimes probe — was staged and portrayed it as an anti-Russian smear campaign. Officials in Bucha say upward of 450 people died while Russian forces held the town — and 419 bodies were found with markings suggesting they had been shot, tortured or bludgeoned to death.

Accounting of bodies in Bucha nears completion


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