Differences - Democrats & Republicans in US

Stav

I just find the following in one of your comments:-

"On the Trump collusion thing, I don't think he did colluded with Russia but I do believe that Russia was trying to influence the election in his favor independently, believing he would have a more favorable relations towards Russia than Clinton would. How effective they where at actually influencing is another question."

Clinton's relationship with Russia went back tp 2010 when Russian State-owned companies made payments of $145 million to the Clinton Foundation for some mysterious reason or another, The reason could be stemming from the fact that the USA  Government approved the purchase by Rosatom of all the shares in a firm  called Uraninium I,   The owner of most of those shares was a close friend of Obama,   As a result of hat approval 20% of the USA strategic uranium reserves now belongs to Rosatom.    The problem for everybody involved is that the documents on the issue were hacked by Wikileaks which confirmed the payments as well as e-mauls about the issue,   

Clinton's campaign manager John Podesta had a company in which the Russian's invested $35 million initially ending up with an investment of $200 million.  In return a Russian State-owned company gave hum 75 000 shares.   He passed his ownership and other assets to his daughter, What is problematic is that in a hacked e-mail from Clinton to Podesta Clinton stated that she has direct access to "Putin's inner sanctum"

There also was a corrupt relationship between the son of Nancy Pelosi  with a Russian Company.   Fact is that the relationship between senior DP members were only exposed after the 2016 election. 

That being the case - why should Putin prefer Trump to be President,   He has since 2017 been  quite harsh with Russia compared to what happened in the Obama era.   Fact is that when war broke out between Ukraine and Russia Obama refused to help Ukraine with armaments, but sent  humanitarian assistance to Ukraine.   Trump previously sent them missiles and further arms is being sent to Ukraine at present.

Fact is the story that Putin wanted Trump to be President was circulated by the Democratic Party in an effort to discredit Trump with whom the Russians had no ties, while there was extensive ties between the senior DP leadership in potentially corrupt activities.

Remember - the USA Government wanted Assange extradited so he could stand trial in the USA and he went into hiding in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London,   When the Ecuadorians asked him to leave the Embassy one would have thought that the USA would insist on his extradition - but they went dead quiet,   Why?   It is going to be highly embarrassing what would come out in a court case against him,                                

SB

Fox News is probably the nearest to a true media company in the USA.  They allow freely for Democrats to express opinions on heir news channel and does not censor them at all,  Try that one with the other news agencies and see where you get. Some  but not all of their program leaders are Republicans - others are Democrats,   

They are not racists and they differ from you politically in some respects - but I do prefer them to   CNN and other media houses who do not mind to spread falsehoods on their programs amd them g et caught out afterwards.   

However, you obviously are entitled to your own opinion,                

Fox's reporting has been much closer to the truth than CNN and the networks. Even their op inion segments allow contrary views to be expressed without intimidation.

It is all subjective opinions, but from what I can see Fox News is for the early generation primates-  t he missing link of modern man...

SB

So the lying CNN and others are fitting for the modern man?   How much damage did Fox news pays for lying compared to CNN and the rest of the liberal media serving modern man?   Please stop being an idiot - Fox News are an open agency serving news - the rest are closed agencies serving the DP and all leftist causes in the USA.  

What is happening now is that the mass media is trusted by only 8% if the population and that 8% would apply to Fox News only (they are the number 1 news agency in the USA anyway) - the main media has zero credibility in the USA population.    How is that possible when they are serving modern man?    

So the junk channels you regularly quote are really the only the real news agencies.  Why has Politico's survey - another anti-Republican Agency - had an opinion poll done on Trust in the Mass Media and found only 8% trusting news emanating from them,   You are apparently part of the idiots who believe the mass media when they are anti-Trump.

The fact is that Fox News allows people to comment on their website,  There are hundreds of anti-Trump messages on site - but when checked it came from only 6 e-mail addresses.  The other news agencies you quote from has no facility for public inputs - so one wo nders why that is the case?      

Addendum: I are a member of the Broederbond as well.

Rooinek and Denny

Happy dreams about what you think was the case,  Wonder why my phone was tapped by the Police, why I was trailed by the Security Police, why the Security Service broke into my flat to  search it, why they put me on pension at the age of 42 because they found NOTHING to incriminate me?   That made me a NP supporter and Broederbond Member?    

Just for spice you add a lie about what I said repeatedly about Zuma.  Maybe the fact that Zuma copied Obama in his appointment of Senior CIA, FBI or Justice Department officials or vice versa bothers you a lot?

Sorry to disappoint you - but personal attacks would not help you if you lost the main argument,             

"Addendum: I are a member of the Broederbond as well."

Of course . . .

"People waht kan laaik to say negertive things about the Broederbond are deficient thinkers that must have watch inderpendint or internashional news shows during the aprtheid years. The only chanel waht kan show the truth in those years were the SABC wich was the only reliable news agency waht was objektiv laaik Fox News and were not junk waht oponents of apartheid watched."

"Wonder why my phone was tapped by the Police . . ."

I can imagine . . .

"It were embarasing becuase they tapped my phone on the day that I phoned Clique's to komplain about the deficient vibrating product waht I bought for the purposes of self-plesuring and stimulation. The secret police herd me argue with the salesperson from Cliques who were trying to eksplain to me that the product were for massage and pain relief and not for personal plesuring and stimulation. It were not a good day for my phone to be tapped I still never got a refund from Cliques evn though I hardly used the product and it are still as good as new."

geez you're a funny bugger.....

Sure - I did sympathize with you about what happened to you and your family under the Apartheid Police but you think I am funny because I had to check my car up every time I got into it to see whether there are something amiss that could have been the end of me.   I went through a lot and came out better than I ever hoped for. 

They tapped my phone for two years and in on instance I spoke to Pat Poovalingum about our next visit to Lusaka to meet the ANC - there was no such meeting at all ever, but it send them into panic status.   They followed me every day for weeks after falling for that story.

The thing probably started after a gentleman phoned me and warned me about a potential bombing of the office building I worked in at the time.  It was the Thursday and although the gentleman would not give his name I recognized his voice.   I informed the Security Police  contact in the office of the call and asked them to get Police to guard the building  for the next week.   The reaction to the suggestion was negative and the following Tuesday a bomb at the building exploded at about 05:00 in the morning.   I went to the office standard time and my boss nearly had a fit.   I said to him that I warned them about what would happen and now I had to organize to get the place operational again.   

Anyway I refused to disclose the name of the chap who phoned me and that may have been the catalyst of the phone tapping escapade.   The guy was one I dealt with in developing a special school for mentally retarded children in Lenasia and  later on was an ANC member of Parliament.  

When I was promoted to a job in Indian Education in 1974 my first visitor in the office was from a Security Police Agent who asked me to provide info on teachers and other staff to them.  I sent them packing and advised him not to expect any co-operation on my part.  In 1983 there was a Mr Engelbrecht from the Head Office who came from Rajbansi with a list of the names of  four teachers who undermined the Government and he instructed me to report them to the Police.   He was two ranks higher than me in the Public Service and I more or less told him to fuck off.   He then threatened to charge me of misconduct - causing me really to tell him to fuck off - and the Director of Indian Education heard our argument and walked into the office,  He told Engelbrecht never to bring such an order ever to anybody in the Education Department again. 

There were various other incidents that made me unacceptable to the Government and I had at least three clashes with them on cabinet level also.   So they liked me - did they not?                               

Sure - I did sympathize with you about what happened to you and your family under the Apartheid Police but you think I am funny because I had to check my car up every time I got into it to see whether there are something amiss that could have been the end of me.   I went through a lot and came out better than I ever hoped for. 

They tapped my phone for two years and in on instance I spoke to Pat Poovalingum about our next visit to Lusaka to meet the ANC - there was no such meeting at all ever, but it send them into panic status.   They followed me every day for weeks after falling for that story.

The thing probably started after a gentleman phoned me and warned me about a potential bombing of the office building I worked in at the time.  It was the Thursday and although the gentleman would not give his name I recognized his voice.   I informed the Security Police  contact in the office of the call and asked them to get Police to guard the building  for the next week.   The reaction to the suggestion was negative and the following Tuesday a bomb at the building exploded at about 05:00 in the morning.   I went to the office standard time and my boss nearly had a fit.   I said to him that I warned them about what would happen and now I had to organize to get the place operational again.   

Anyway I refused to disclose the name of the chap who phoned me and that may have been the catalyst of the phone tapping escapade.   The guy was one I dealt with in developing a special school for mentally retarded children in Lenasia and  later on was an ANC member of Parliament.  

When I was promoted to a job in Indian Education in 1974 my first visitor in the office was from a Security Police Agent who asked me to provide info on teachers and other staff to them.  I sent them packing and advised him not to expect any co-operation on my part.  In 1983 there was a Mr Engelbrecht from the Head Office who came from Rajbansi with a list of the names of  four teachers who undermined the Government and he instructed me to report them to the Police.   He was two ranks higher than me in the Public Service and I more or less told him to fuck off.   He then threatened to charge me of misconduct - causing me really to tell him to fuck off - and the Director of Indian Education heard our argument and walked into the office,  He told Engelbrecht never to bring such an order ever to anybody in the Education Department again. 

There were various other incidents that made me unacceptable to the Government and I had at least three clashes with them on cabinet level also.   So they liked me - did they not?                               

So you were involved with the ANC in discussions of the planting bombs during the 1980s? Why did "they" phone to warn you of the bomb, if you were not an ally? No wonder the police were tapping your phones... 

You showed up a couple of hours after the bomb went off. Refusing to disclose the name of a terrorist is also perjury.

Comrade Mike helped to bring in the new ERA of African communism. He became a member of the ANC - jumped ship but did not v ote for them... Sold everyone down the river for cash.

Ou Maaik sounds like he was the most wanted man in the Municipality . . . especially when someone was needed to change the bucket under the outhouse.

Oom Mike. Don't even bother to try and justify/defend yourself. People like to look down their noses at state employees to feel better about themselves, but imagine a country where the bureaucracy completely implodes....something like Eskom to the power of 10. Any job can be noble if done with integrity. 

"Walter Mitty in mid season form."

Weren't you also compared to Walter by your buddy Sader?

I was a big Danny Kaye fan, but haven't seen any of his stuff in decades...maybe I should give it a go!

If you differ form idiots you get renounced they way hey would renounce any honest person.   Idiots remain idiots and nobody is more stupid than Rooinek, SB and sorry to say Denny in this case as well.   All I can say is Fucked Brains at work. 

That's rather rude Mike, even though it's mostly true....don't burn your bridges for principals.

ComradeMike, or is it ComradeWanker 

or ISISMike, 

Comrade Snark, are you saying Comrade Maaik is the only wanker on site....and are you denying being a wanker yourself? A simple "yes" or "no" will do.

It was KaMate.

"It was KaMate."

Yes, I forgot about him. He got very angry at most of us for some odd reason...supporter of "the wrong Haka" too.

BTW, did you see that particular  Danny Kaye movie, or did you read the book?

"Well, I certainly have not admitted to buying wanking devices."

You haven't denied it either...and...erm, don't bother...

This is the hierarchy of American society- 

Hierarchy?...I see.

SB

Marginalized Minorities - ho marginalized them in the first instance.  Sorry to say - but it is the Democrats.  They prefer them to become dependent on the State through socialist program of grants and try and stop them from becoming contributing members of society,

The fact is that the Democrats abuse the minorities and only at election times try and use them for their own benefit.  People are slowly waking up to that.

As to the middle class - where did you get idea from?   The middle class are also divided and probably split 50:50 between parties if the suburban voting patterns are borne in mind. 

It is always dangerous to make generalized statements,  See what happened to Clinton when she called Republican Party supporters "deplorables".   It backfired badly on her,  That is the same generalizations you participate in.       ,