Differences - Democrats & Republicans in US

Democrats: Affluent, educated free thinkers living in cities.

Republicans: Poor, stupid, brainwashed bible bashers living in trailer parks.  

Hahahaha only a nutjob like rooitwit could make such an absurd generalization. 

Stock market hits new high. Market up 58%!!!!

You getting the message yet rooibozo.

Man few people make such major blunders like rooibozo. 

Democrats - think they know everything - but dumb and crooked  to the core

Republicans - suffering workers because of the crooked Democrat swamp. 

How do  they pick Democrat candidates on all levels -

*    Must be crooked and not caught out yet

*    Intelligence level - as low as possible - alcoholic abuse a recommendation

*    Hate America and the US constitution  a requirement

Biggest danger right now is NOT Iran, WW3 and all that BS. 

Biggest danger is the enemy within and very especially Rino/globalist scumbags. 

4%of Americans trust Hollywood! 8%of Americans trust MSM.

Both support the demonrats. 

Rooitwit supports the demonrats. 

Connect the dots. 

H ey, if the shoe fits . . .

Democrats - Middle Class, average IQ above 100

Republicans- Millionaires that want to pay less tax. Lower class trailer park Rednecks. Religious. Average IQ below 100

No - the fact is that Clinton calls Republican Party supporters "deplorables" and Rooinek and SB us just supporting those despicable comments.   The billionaires in the USA are virtually all Democrat supporters and funders and their media arms are all attacking Trump 100% of the time,.   So the two laps up the distorted news put out by the media,

Two of the DP candidates are billionaires - why should that be if SB is correct.                    

This is data from the PEW Research Centre. 

https://www.people-press.org/2018/03/20/wide-gender-gap-growing-educational-divide-in-voters-party-identification/ (The bottom of the page has an index to scroll through more pages)

https://www.people-press.org/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/

As the 2018 midterm elections approach, women and especially college graduates have moved toward the Democratic Party. By contrast, the Republican Party’s advantage in leaned party identification among white voters without a college degree has never been greater, dating back more than two decades. (i.e basically many of these are the Rednecks)

Record share of college graduates align with Democrats. Voters who have completed college make up a third of all registered voters. and voters with no college experience have been moving toward the GOP: 47% identify with or lean toward the Republican Party, up from 42% in 2014.

Larger differences among whites by education. Most white voters with at least a four-year college degree (53%) affiliate with the Democratic Party or lean Democratic; 42% identify as Republicans or lean Republican. 

Millennials are 60% democratic, which suggests Republican party is soon going to be toast- as each year there will be more new democratic voters and less old Republicans. So the Republican ideology is ageing out, much like religion...

This chart starts at High School (HS)- and shows the change as people become more educated. 

The internet gives people an opportunity to find things out for themselves and as people become more informed, more will move away from the sheltered and insular Republican outlook and reject the kind of propaganda that the White House and Faux-News spew out.

It's inevitable that the Republican Party will lose more and more supporters in time and one day the Democrats might finally find their real place as the conservative party within the USA . . . which is what they basically are . . . with an opposition socialist or Green party representing the left.

Far right wingers like today's Republicans will become marginalised and insignificant groups of zealots and white supremacists. 

@clevermike

Many cities in many countries (even with those that have relatively low crimes rates) have area's/districts/estates that would considered risky to go into, Dublin has 1 or 2. Your not likely to be shot in them but if your an outsider you risk being mugged. I don't think this particular unique to anywhere in the world. 

If you take out gun violence from American crime statistics and compare them to other western countries I think the American crime rate is around about the average. Its just America uniquely has the issue with mass shootings.

Those in favor of gun control acknowledge that illegal guns are a problem and we want them removed from society as well. But the evidence shows in mass shootings around 75% of them time the guns are legally owned. Gun control proponents they are of the view that the majority of those who hold guns for self defense will never need to use them in self defense. For the odd occasion were legal ownership of a gun saves lives they will be several more occasions where a legally owned gun will be the cause of death among innocents.

@mozart

I do acknowledge the laws, state rights, lobby groups and politicization of guns makes it very hard to change the gun laws in America.

@ Beeno1

While I normally wouldn't respond to any of Beeno's points, I do see gun proponents frequently cite the need for guns in case the government ever turns on them. First of all, the idea the US government would every turn on its people is just another right wing conspiracy theory, designed to scare people into seeing imaginary threats.  But even if where true, the idea the American people armed with small arms would  be able to resist the American government who wield the strongest, most advanced, best equipped and battle hardened army in the world, along with the logistics, communications and military industry to sustain it is beyond laughable. Congratulations you own an M-16 assault rifle and have 30 clips of ammunition. The government can wield cruise, missiles, Abram tanks, drones, aircraft and artillery, its gonna be a rather one sided fight. As for the idea of a foreign power invading America, no country has the power to do so and even if they did if America came under threat of invasion I'm sure they would at that point just nuke the aggressor. 

One day the Democrats might find their 'real place as the conservative party'....ie become the Republican Party, without it's right wing.  Keep going Peeper, I can see a glimmer of understanding beginning to emerge.

Regardless of where ones sits on the political spectrum would you really want a system were all the political parties where on the the same wing. Doesn't sound like a healthy political system to me.

Yes, Trump's election clearly shows how much inroads the lefties made...NOT!!!

Keep drinking the Koolaid. The Dems got rejected for much more than just immigration issues. People are getting fed up with the Commie Agenda....that's the bottom line.  We've had enough of giving freeloaders a free ride and being told it's our fault they can't fend for themselves. There's a huge difference between helping the poor and downtrodden AND carrying lazy people on your back...the "Free Stuff Crowd" won't be content before they've taken everything.

Conservatism goes way beyond immigration. The Conservatives have led the UK for most of the last 100 years. Around 65 of the last 100 years, if I remember correctly. 

I am not too sure that you really understand what conservatism really means. You have to bear in mind that conservatism has its own little "spectrum" so to speak, ranging from left to right from liberal conservatism to authoritarian conservatism. 

Conservatism basically centres around a number of basic principles regarding the preservation of, among others freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the maintenance and preservation of parliamentary but with restricted government which I will get to later, protected property rights, and social stability.

As for restricted govt. This is the opposite of this nanny state BS that we are dealing with at the moment for instance the criminalisation of so-called gender miss-prouncing, or whatever BS term they want to use. The idea is to get rid of BS restrictions like the EU is doing. That is what Trump has done. He got rid of many of many unnecessary restrictions to get the economy going again. What was, and still is to some extent, one of the biggest issues hampering the UK building industry? Loads and loads of BS surrounding planning permission. It can take you months and months to get permission to do minor stuff on your house. David Cameron started getting this sorted, and Theresa May built on that and Boris is going to sort it out even further. The building of new houses got a major boost of that after it almost came to a grinding halt under Labour because of all the shyte regulations they brought in.

Conservatism goes way beyond Bible bashing old white men. 

Conservatism is growing in the USA and not dying out as you would like to believe. Check it out. It is growing under younger people (check out Turning Point UK and Turning Point USA), as well as blacks in the USA (young and old) as well as among Latinos. 

You should look beyond CNN, MSNBC, The Washington Post, etc.

Conservatism goes way beyond Bible-bashing old, "lower intelligence and lower-earning" white men. However, they make up the highest % of voters for Republicans. 

The data I provided clearly shows that Republicanism is less popular with younger generations- particularly those that are educated.

Immigration is currently the biggest issue because of the terrorism, and the complete intolerance showed by radical Muslims to their adopted country- after having been invited into Western countries. Europe, for example, has seen that helping refugees from the Middle East is a mistake. Their religion is just not compatible with modern-day values- and actually the reason the primitive Middle East is so worn-torn. 

Conservatism will always exist, however, the scale can change. At the moment the right-wing is more right than in recent decades, but that is largely due to immigration.

 It is bizarre that some people who earn below-average wage still support conservatism, but they do. Even in the UK where the Tories used to just shaft the average working-class person. Nowadays the Torries are not as far right-wing in the past. Also, religion is not really a factor in the UK, perhaps why the Torries are not as far right-wing as some countries. 

Boris Johnston seems like a good match for the job, and the UK are fortunate to have him. 

Sharkbok

Did you read anything I quote and understand anything about the real world in Government services.   It has bugger-all to do with the rich against the poor as you imply,  Neither immigration at all,      Fact is the wealthier Americans are mostly Democratic Party supporters for their own reasons,  The Party used to represent the poorer people in the USA as well,   

Over the last thirty years in the USA the working class were grossly neglected and they turn against the DP - especially the Whites, but more and more Latino's and Blacks are going the same way,   The answer was partly because especially in the Obama years trade treaties were signed that encourage the rich industrialists to close their operations in the USA and move to countries where labour costs are much lower than in the USA and labour unions basically do not exist,   The result was that states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio became industrial wastelands with millions of workers becoming unemployed,    

@Ceradyne,

I agree the left has gone too far left - at least in certain countries.

Corbyn for Labour in the UK was so far left he was a joke- he is a socialist. Apparently Tony Blair used to laugh at him 20 years ago, because he was a socialist or even a commie. Blair even said recently that Labour needs to be more centre if they are too survive. 

Some of the middle class and the working class voted for Conservative for the first time ever- even though they feared that the Torries might be too far right. Labour was way too far left, so they knew that was not a good option, which left them with the Torries. 

It is concerning when looking at a situation like South Africa. If politics go too far left it will be even worse than too far right...

I actually share some ideal's from both parties, so I am probably relatively centred. However, the Republican ideals are too far right. Although I would have to live in America to really suss out the scene though. 

@ceradyne

"As for restricted govt. This is the opposite of this nanny state BS that we are dealing with at the moment for instance the criminalisation of so-called gender miss-prouncing, or whatever BS term they want to use. The idea is to get rid of BS restrictions like the EU is doing."

Can you link me to information on this criminalization of gender miss pronunciation. Sounds too unbelievable to true frankly.

What BS restrictions did the EU enforce on the UK?. You said they banned dredging in a post recently. They didn't. Anything else you heard about it but possible didn't fact check to see if it was true?

"That is what Trump has done. He got rid of many of many unnecessary restrictions to get the economy going again."

Like the UK getting rid of all its free trade agreements and starting from scratch?. No one is predicting the UK economy is going to do better after Brexit than it was before.

Stav

I wrote a long precis as to what happens inside Government structures everywhere throughout  the world.   Let me explain further,   There is normally a provision in legislation that regulations must be passed to implement the said law - nothing irregular in that.   

The method used in all states is to issue regulations as to practical implementation of the laws.   The problem is that regulations must be complied with and for that purpose staff are designated to deal with it,   That obviously means the more regulations there are the bigger the bureaucracy required to implement them.

In the more socialist orientated countries the regulations are endless and often enough bloody silly to be blunt.   In the economic sphere Government officials often talk of reducing red tape, but often enough use new regulations to clarify the existing regulations instead of just stop silly regulations,   

It is an indescribable mess that results from it,   The bureaucracy grew and the fruitless expenditure on it grew apace.    In reality lets face facts small entrepreneurs provide jobs on a smaller scale - but in the end provides more employment opportunities than anything else.  But try and start a new small enterprise requires a legal and experts team to get through the maze of regulations dealing with such applications and in the end the new entrepreneur just gives up and do not proceed with his enterprise or the starting up process is delayed by years .    That is the universal situation worldwide.

Some even try and get past regulatory requirements by bribing officials and that should in fact means jailtime - but that leads to further growth in government.   

The real fact is that what Trump did was to scrap all the red tape enhancing regulations and keep only the essential ones.    Those normally relates to health and safety issues and compliance with standards.    The rest are bull dust.    You referred to the EU,   I remember reading a report that there have  been 33 000 sets of regulations issued by the EU over the years  and these are all to be administered by member states,   How effective implementation is remains a problem - but a major one at that.

Take business development on its own as an example,   There is an amazing number of regulations governing that aspect alone.   They often come from different Government Departments and no real co-ordination exists.  The end result is often non-implementation, Objective and  positive public servants would help to overcome the endless BS - the over-whelming majority would not,  

I have dealt with the issue in my work environment and has addressed conferences in SA and also international ones in England and Germany on the same issue,  Everybody agree that the rot is deep and something must be done - but in the end nothing really gets done.   The problem is very real and the end result in some countries opens the door to bribery and corruption. 

It happened in SA on a massive scale and a number of Commissions of Enquiry were appointed to deal with the issue,   In SA bribery and corruption in Government - co-ordinated in the highest level - nearly destroy the country's economy.   

In the USA  it is no better,   There are definitely under Obama a similar corrupt activities used. Appoint corrupt people to the highest positions in the Police and Justice departments and corruption is not investigated,    Take one issue as an example,   Under the Shah $400 million was paid to the USA to provide planes for the then Persian Air Force.   The Islamic revolution and especially the invasion of the USA Embassy in Teheran and keeping the staff as hostages led to the freezing of all Iran assets in dollars in the USA and effectively in all countries using dollars for trade purposes,  With the signing of the Nuclear Arms Treaty of Iran all the frozen  Iran assets were unfrozen - but the $400  million issue was not dealt with,    Obama and his administration decided to recalculate the amount due  and decided to pay $1,8 billion to Iran,  They decided to pay the $1,8 billion in cash sent on a plane to Iran.   That was totally against laws and agreements as to payments made between governments on  international level.   Such a Mafia style payment - and that is what it was effectively - is open to massive corruption possibilities.

Corrupt activities under the Obama administration is slowly coming out of the woodwork and will have vast future implications from a legal perspective,  

Be it as it may the economy in most countries of the world are messy because of regulations and needs to be sorted out.   Nobody can differ from the noble objectives supporting socialist and Marxist ideology - it sound more utopian than anything else in world government, but in   implementation the noble ideas are destroyed.   That is the main reason why socialism is an abomination.                                                           

Rooinek 

You  are totally dumb when it comes to functioning of Government and do not understand the problems attached to same,   You are obviously  not aware how socialist policies impact the Public Service and how it leads to incompetence and  also to corruption.

You live in SA and did not see what happened here - really?   

However, in the USA it became a plague too under Obama and the Democrats wants to get back to the heady days of Democratic Government when looting was the norm.   You can go to billions being allocated for inner city upgrading in cities like Baltimore and  the money just vanish with virtually nothing was done and the money gone as well.   You are also oblivious to the crookery of Biden as Vice-President and the Iran flight with the $1,8 on board.   Iran indicated they only received $1,34 billon, where did the rest go?   Zuma is a crook - Obama i s one too,  

They both stuffed up the Police and Justice Departments with crooks to stop action being taken to stop corruption.

As to knowledge of politics - what I have forgotten 50 years ago - you will never learn.  Have you ever analyzed why you were so wrong in the 2016 US election after you and every liberal was wrong about the Clinton victory.   If you did - you would have found out what was totally deficient under the Obama administration in the USA.   You never understand what went wrong and to this day do not understand what happened,   So I can understand that you do not know anything about politics other than what is punched into you by the leftist media.

I do not follow any media and do my own thinking about issues and my experience in Government Service taught me what the real situation is.   If you ever find out what really is going on we can discuss things.  At this stage you are making a total fool of yourself.                                      

Looks like another "long precis"!

LMAO!

No Rooinek 

There is a small chance that you may learns something from it - but I would not held my breath on that one.

In a recent University study it was found that circa 60% of the population of all races  of the USA are basically conservative in their outlook on the issue  of quality of life and while Democrats have been in the center of the political spectrum they would naturally win most  elections - but whereas the Democrats was a centrist party they would naturally be the dominant party in the US,   The 60% comprised of  people regarding themselves politically as Republicans  30%,Democrats 15% and Independents 15%.    Obviously quality of candidates will also have an impact,  

However, the dominance in all the major cities gave birth to  the DP tended to move to the left of the political spectrum and that cost of the spectrum with the strongest  component  being 35% being what can be termed  Democratic Socialists and 5%  the other Socialists grouping being more leftist,  

In the past the DP was a  centrist party with  support from elements from the conservative category as well.   Moving to the left gained them support from the more active Socialist elements, but they lost support of the more conservative elements in their party and then also lost he support of the Independents whom in the past normally were split 50:50 between  the Republicans and the Democrats.  At this stage it is 75:25

Taking into account the DP as a centrist party has a bigger chance of winning elections - but with the present tendencies they have no chance of winning anything.   Amd they have very poor quality candidates for 2020 as well.   Biden is held up by the DNC as a centrist, but he is extremely weak on all issues and his dubious record iro honesty is under scrutiny.

The problem is that the DP is using the impeachment issue to exonerate Biden from the allegations against him  - but it has all the potential of exposing him even more.