Grooming Gangs

Ok Stav, we may as well start a new thread on this issue

I will reply back to some points that you made, but also add some more context to this discussion as well.

"You mentioned something was potentially about to come out in the US media about Joe Biden or the democrats a few weeks back"

I said it was possibly about Kamala or Melania, and both of them had suprising news stories coming out in the media about a week later .... which I then said that I did not really consider big news....go back and check

But even that, how the hell does that constitute "Always" .... man you like to exaggerate things.

"Yet absolutely no one is talking about banning the Christian Church or blocking Christians from entering the country for some reason. (no I'm not advocating for that before anyone says I am)"

Then start a thread, because I have already discussed this specific issues many times on this forum before, going head to head with Beeno on it,  saying the exact same thing that you are saying to me now.

"Perhaps I know whats going on my doorstep better than someone 12,000km away?"

You quite simply don't, so don't even try and pretend to.... because it is very much evidenced by your responses on here ......you are so ill informed it is crazy.... to be very honest, you should actually be embarrassed.

"You're in denial about who's pushing this agenda, although its not entirely the far right."

You are in denial about anything Muslim related because you don't want to be seen as being racist by identifying a certain group that is responsible for absolutely heinous crimes against young White girls.

"Now there has been genuine cases where the fear of being labelled a racist has enabled crimes. The Rochdalle grooming case case being an example of that.  There have been others as well, but again its been blown out of proportion by people with an agenda."

Rotherham, Telford and Rochdale are only a few places where this has occurred, with easily more than a dozen other places being identified already....but it has not been blown out of proportion at all..... the truth has just been revealed, that's all.

This article is available on the internet that is not behind a paywall, I suggest you read it, because it only came out two days ago.... you have no idea at all on what you are talking about, and this is very clear to me just from your comments on here.

Grooming Gangs

There has long been a reluctance by the police to investigate any crimes committed by the "Asian" community due to the sensitive and potentially racist implications it would bring to communities... or as has been discovered now...... it was "Politically Incorrect"....... which is a bullshit excuse.

The investigations were never carried out because there was a genuine concern that a race riot would develop, which I completely understand, but that doesn't mean you supress any complaints or investigations due to it being a sensitive issue.

What do you say about the former Rochdale MP Simon Danczuk confirming that Ex-Labour chairman Tony Loyd didn't want any abuse linked to the Muslim community because of the adverse electoral impact it would have.

What about in Rotherham, where a senior police officer told an upset father that the town would erupt in riots if the routine abuse of White children became public knowledge.

Rochdale police and social workers were both accused of failing to investigate "Asian" grooming gangs, because they did not want to be perceived as racist .... 9 men were eventually arrested, but by then, they had sexually assaulted and abused 50 young White girls...

Here is the report

Rochdale

Some people are reporting that up to 250 000 girls have been groomed, but nobody has yet confirmed this number.

Jordan Petersen has just come out and said that he knew very well about this issue 15 years ago, and that it was well known that the police were supressing any information about Pakastani men abusing young White girls.

How about another senior police official saying that the abuse by Asian men of young White children, has been going on for over 30 years, but that it needs to be kept quiet due to it being doing by "Asians"

How about another daming report from the West Midlands Police that stated that "Pakastani" men were grooming young white school girls with alcohol and drugs, and that the West Midlands Police have admitted that they supressed this report to avoid inflaming racial tension.

Here is the report

Asian Grooming

How about another report in 2019 from a detective that reported that "Asian" grooming gangs were left alone to roam the streets and target young White girls, because the police were told to target other ethnicities to investigate.... here is the report.

Other Ethnicities

What about the one time where the police even tipped off the abuser that the child had come in to make a case against him, so he sent her a message whilst she was still in the police station, saying I have your 11 year old sister with me, so you decide how this goes from here....

She dropped the case

Maybe you can explain why Qari Abdul Rauf is a convicted grooming gang leader, who was stripped of his British citizenship and ordered to be deported after being found guilty.... 9 years ago.

Why is this convicted sex offender still living in the same city as his victims, 9 years after being convicted and "deported"

Why is it that in England and Wales, 6785 incidents of sexual grooming were closed, yet 32% of those cases requested the suspect to not be identified.

How effective is your police force, when they arrest the fathers of the young children that they are trying to rescue from being held against their will from Pakastani men.... how pathetic is that...

Or, how pathetic is it that they are arresting 12 year old girls for being drunk in a house with 6 Pakastani men .... yet nothing at all happens to these men...

More police officers are coming forward with evidence saying that they were specifically told not to hassle or arrest Pakastani men due to the sensitive race relations in these towns, and to overlook grooming and sexual assault and abuse.

You know nothing Stav, evidenced by your ridiculous and naive respones to this issue.

How about waking up to the fact that from 1997 to 2016.... 1 in every 73 Muslim men was prosecuted in Rotherham for grooming young White girls.

Grooming Gangs Truth

Have you even read the 16 page sentencing remarks / outcome of his honor, Judge Peter Rook QC from the 27th June 2013, regarding the big trial of  these men ....Akhtar Dogar, Anjun Dogar, Kamar Jamil, Mohammed Karrar and Bassam Karrar..... I did, and I do this to actually learn about what has happend in the past and what is still currently happening to these young vulnerable White girls all over the UK.... unlike you..... 

Google it.

Here are some excerpts from Judge Peter Rook when sentencing.

"To enforce your demands, you told her that you’d come and burn her house down, and burn her little brother. She believed you and it was always in the back of her mind."

"Quite apart from using her for your own sexual self-gratification, you coerced her into providing sex to vast numbers of strangers. Up to four or five men would be invited to addresses so they could have sex with her. Men were brought from Bradford, Leeds, Slough and London. Sometimes the sex would be photographed no doubt to lure more customers. Men would say they had come a long way to see her. AB describes you and the men who would come as having a “pack mentality.” You were oblivious as to what was happening to her. She became emotionally and physically exhausted. Threats were made to kill her. Your only concerns were your own self-gratification and the satisfaction of your customers so you could achieve commercial gain from arranging for others to abuse her. If she resisted, she would be coerced. Customers would become angry. For instance if oral sex was required, her head would be pushed down, her hair pulled and she would be slapped. Strangers would burn her with cigarettes. A stranger almost throttled her. One deliberately scratched her vagina with his nails. One inserted a hairbrush into her vagina"

"One of the rapes of which you have all three been convicted relates to the terrifying ordeal to which you subjected AB at Shotover Woods [Count 10]. This episode provides a graphic example of how you would react if she failed to comply. AB pretended she had a period to avoid sex. You, Akhtar, reacted by putting your hand down her trousers so as to check whether this was true. You Akhtar, Anjum and Kamar Jamil then embarked upon a wicked plan to punish her for lying. At night you took her to a remote car park up a hill near Shotover Woods. It was pitch black. You ignored her pleading. You made her get down to her knees and forced her to give each of you oral sex. You subjected her to verbal abuse telling her that she knew what they do to pigs, and they were going to cut her throat if she did not comply.” It is a clear inference that you had invited others to join you. Another car arrived within 10 to 15 minutes. There were four men in that car. She was made to give oral sex to all four. She said they were all encouraging each other. You then abandoned her. Ironically, so pitiful was the state in which you left her, she had to contact you as she felt there was no one else she could turn to in the circumstances."

Then lastly and disgustingly

You, Mohammed Karrar, prepared her for gang anal rape by using a pump to expand her anal passage. You subjected her to a gang rape by five or six men (count 30). At one point she had four men inside her. A red ball was placed in her mouth to keep her quiet. Not only were you both involved in the commercial sexual exploitation of GH, you also used her for your own self-gratification. You both raped her when she was under 13. When she was very young, although it is not clear whether she was under 13, you both raped her at the same time (oral and vaginal/anal). It happened on more than one occasion"

"Mohammed Karrar, on one occasion when GH was 12, after raping her, she threatened you with your lock knife. Your reaction was to pick up a baseball bat with a silver metal handle, strike her on the head with it, and then insert the baseball bat inside her vagina. You treated her as if she was your commodity. You branded her (with your initial near her anal passage) using a hot hair pin. If GH did not comply with your wishes, if you were not with other people, you would lose your temper with her. As part of the grooming, you would provide her with crack cocaine and you injected GH with heroin on numerous occasions (Count 40)"

You pretend to know what is happening, but you have absolutely no idea at all Stav ....you seriously don't, and nothing you reply with will convince me that you do..... you are extremely ignorant to such a huge and sensitive issue.

Now call me a racist as much as you want to, I face reality, which you wouldn't see if it hit you straight between the eyes.

I have seen old and current information, evidence and testimony on this specific issue.... from citizens, senior police officers and government officials that clearly indicate to me that this has been covered up on a national scale, to prevent racial tensions or even race riots all over the UK, and if you want to keep denying that, go ahead, continue being ignorant, but at least research what has happened, and what is still happening on your very own doorstep, before professing that you do know, and accusing others of not knowing anything.....when very clearly you personally don't and never have known anything.

I would also strongly suggest you start taking a bit more interest and pride into what is actually happening on your own doorstep and stop labelling people racist or bigots for pointing these very serious issues out for you.

Great post DA.

StavASS is an empty headed weak loon. His lives in some sort of weird leftist bubble much like those other freaks we have here Blobbrain the bullshitter and the very Dense Denise the ultimate dork.

Elon Musk has been posting on this major issue, the biggest scandal in British history. One guy did a count and his posts already have been viewed by over 200 million people. The whole disgusting mess has exploded.

Elon posted an extract from the court papers and this is depravity the likes of which you have never seen before

He has accused Starmer of being complicit. Starmer was Crown prosecutor for 6  years knew about all this and did virtually nothing.

Musk has criticized the lawfare against Tommy Robison who has fought for years to bring this EVIL to the attention of the British People. I see many people at last realizing Muslims don't belong in the West with their defence of old men marrying children etc.

The left are of course the party of pedophiles and these are the people Bolbbrain and the very dense denise support. One can only conclude they support pedophiles.

Musk came out supporting Tommy Musk saying free Tommy Robinson. Farage stupidly tried to tell Musk that Tommy was jailed for disobeying court orders eg still showing his documentary. Musk blasted Farage saying he the r4ason Tommy was jailed but that the sentence was absurd. This was a civil conviction that ended with Tommy getting 18 months and being put in solitary confinement. The latter proving that this is all political.

Must went on to say Reform needs a new leader a Farage did not have what it takes.

On X various videos of Farage and his weak stance on Islam and immigration have been appearing and many people are incensed.

So how does this play out.  My guess is that Musk wont back down. I think Trump's calculus is that Musk is a lot more valuable to him than Farage and he will side with Musk and give Nigel the message. I think Farage and Tice and reform will be forced to mend matters with Tommy who today is a British folk hero.

Bye the way these muslim rape gangs were so depraved that Farage said don't read the court documents you wont sleep at night. I only read a few lines and almost puked. Yes mike the number of British girls raped by these muslim rape gangs is estimated at 250,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anybody objecting to this was silenced, cancelled. Katie Hopkins says this all presents an opportunity to know stand together against this horrific evil and speak out. The tide has turned

I see Globalist Trudeau may be resigning next week.  Lets hope so. He is another traitor deserving the death penalty

Why is President Musk sticking his nose into other people's business? Hasn't he got his own country to run now? Doesn't he have a lapdog to ruffle feathers on social media?

Why is President Musk sticking his nose into other people's business? Hasn't he got his own country to run now? Doesn't he have a lapdog to ruffle feathers on social media?

He's made Farage look like an absolute fool as Farage was only just singing his praises.

But what Musk doesn't understand is Farage is the Reform party. Getting rid of Farage would be like getting rid of Trump to the MAGA crowd.

But also just another example of Musk being an absolutely horrible person by supporting Tommy Robinson. Even Farage knows that Robinson is an absolutely toxic brand in the UK after the recent riots and Reform want nothing to do with Robinson or his followers.  

Bullshit is flowing  again.     83% of the population is White - while 17% are of other races - but it does not stick to facts since 75% is White and 25% from the cases re by 17% commits the other 25% of similar crimes,   That means the ratio are heavily found in the  non-white communities compred to the White Communities.

This type of percentage fiddling indicates that although it is more evident in that 17% o the Commuity and that in itself represents a major prblem.    I am sory but if you reduce BS from what is a major problem in the UK when  crime in he White Community is less prevaletn than it is in ther commuities,

It really is laughable becase it is using figures to try and hide the issue and statistically it is BS.                

Well .... this response says so much more about you to me Stav.... than I actually ever imagined.

I responded with a link to a video explaining how the UK government's own relatively recent report found that the majority of child sex abuse cases are found to be disproportional committed by white British.

Report can be found here.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/iicsa-report-of-the-independent-inquiry-into-child-sexual-abuse

Additional report can be found here.

https://www.csacentre.org.uk/app/uploads/2024/02/Trends-in-Offical-Data-2022-23-FINAL.pdf

What a truly utterly pathetic response to such a huge and horrific problem....

How is my response pathetic. Because you don't like it?

DA, shame on you .................. misrepresentation being the lesser offense.

And when I was chief prosecutor for five years, I tackled that head on, because I could see what was happening, and that’s why I reopened cases that have been closed and supposedly finished. I brought the first major prosecution of an Asian grooming gang in the particular case – it was in Rochdale, but it was the first of its kind …

We changed, or I changed, the whole prosecution approach, because I wanted to challenge, and did challenge the myths and stereotypes that were stopping those victims being heard.

So we changed the entire approach, not without criticism at the time, I might add.

But when I left office, we had the highest number of child sexual abuse cases being prosecuted on record.

Now that record is not secret as a public servant, it’s all it’s there for all of you or everybody to see.

I also called for mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse. I’ve called for that decade ago. The Tories did nothing about that, for those 10 long years, including when the Jay report came out."

Then he went on to attack those who where attacking him and Jess Philips.

"Those that are spreading lies and misinformation as far and as wide as possible, they’re not interested in victims. They’re interested in themselves.

Those who are cheerleading Tommy Robinson are not interested in justice. They’re supporting a man who went to prison for nearly collapsing a grooming case, a gang grooming case. These are people are trying to get some kind of vicarious thrill from street violence that people like Tommy Robinson promote.

And those attacking Jess Phillips, who I’m proud to call a colleague and a friend on protecting victims - Jess Phillips has done 1,000 times more than they’ve even dreamt about when it comes to protecting victims of sexual abuse throughout her entire career …

We’ve seen this playbook many times, whipping up of intimidation and threats of violence, hoping that the media will amplify it.

Jess Phillips does not need me or anybody else to speak on her behalf. But when the poison of the far right leads to serious threats to Jess Phillips and others, that in my book [means] a line has been crossed.

I enjoy the cut and thrust of politics, the robust debate that we must have, but that’s got to be based on facts and truth, not on lies, not on those who are so desperate for attention that they’re prepared to debase themselves and their country.

So this government will get on with the job of protecting victims, including child sexual abuse, mandatory reporting, accelerating the processes.

But what I won’t tolerate is this discussion based on lies without calling it out. What I won’t tolerate is politicians jumping on the bandwagon simply to get attention when those politicians sat in government for 14 long years, tweeting, talking, but not doing anything about it – now so desperate for attention that they’re amplifying what the far right is saying.

So that’s what I say about Jess Phillips, Thank you."

As they say in the House of Commons...HEAR HEAR! .

I see our Pedo supporting pricks are dismayed at Musk calling this all out. What a nasty man Musk is. He Musk be Islamophobic, racist etc etc. 

STAVASS says these Muslims can take my daughter. One must be kind to these wonderful pedophiles. 

Stop interfering in British politics whines poor perverted Rooitwit dancing up and down in his very tight pink tights in rage. 

But didn't the UK  foreign minister call Trump terrible names. Didn't Labour send 100 operatives to campaign for Kamala in Pennsylvania. Bwahahahahahaha.

Wherever Migrants have invaded European countries crime rates have dramatically increased. 

You far left leftist loons can wail about how unfair it is to criticise Muslim Rape gangs but the European  are turning strongly against the invasion of their countries courtesy of the elite Globalists open borders policies. 

Leftist Globalist Starmer has sunk like a stone in the polls. 

Leftist Globalist Trudeau in Canada is about to get the boot.. 

National Rally in France is now the biggest party. 

The very young AFD is now the second biggest party in Germany plus Weidel is the most popular candidate for Chancellor. 

The cry to deport all the invaders just  keeps growing. Trump will begin his mass deportation on the 20th of January. This will encourage Europeans to demand the same happens in their country. 

Ireland of course needs to strip traitors like StavASS of citizenship and send him to Iran. Great to see the videos of Irish Patriots protesting while wee StavASS cowers in his basement. 

"Your dismissing it because you don't like it findings. If the report said what you wanted it too you be bringing it up as supporting evidence."

No.... I am dismissing it because it's all bullshit .... and I mean all of it

"DA, shame on you .................. misrepresentation being the lesser offense.

What the hell are you on about here......

Here is Samantha Taghoy

"Most child sex abuse in the UK is committed by white men… because it is a majority white nation.

Just 2.7% of the population is of Pakistani origin, but Pakistani-Muslim men are the perpetrators in nearly all child sexual exploitation gang cases"

Samantha Taghoy

Here is a father that tried to rescue his daughter and got arrested

Father

Here is Robbie Moore discussing this specific issue in parliament, just look at Keir's party representatives .... one person

Robbie Moore

Here is Jordan Peterson discussing the hidden truth behind these Pakastani grooming and rape gangs in the UK, and how long it has been very well known about.

"This is the worst scandal I’ve ever heard of on UK child abuse cover-up

They didn’t just ignore it, it’s worse than that, they ignored it and tortured the people who brought it to light." 

Jordan Peterson

Dionne Muller, ex police officer from Leicestershire on facts regarding Pakastani Muslim rape gangs and how police were tols to ignore it.

Dionne Muller

Camilla Tominey, they are not grooming gangs, they are child rape gangs

Well-known Islamic scholar with millions of followers, Zakir Naik, says Allah allows abuse of girls who do not follow Islamic dress code. This is Islam

Zakir Naik

Now I know Stav....

He will just try and attack the sources of these videos as Ultra right wing organisations or activists or whatever else.... but the fact of the matter is....is that this is what people are coming out and admitting now.... innocent victims or people who were either involved in some way, or knew something was happening but could not say anything for whatever reason....whether it be ex-policeman, past politicians, or victims.... etc etc

I don't care at all who hosts these videos or conducts the interviews, I am just glad that the truth is finally coming to the fore.

"But this is what the right wing media and DA whether he's aware or not do"

Nope, I just don't act like you and sweep any thing that might be concerning or illegal, under the carpet and pretend it isn't happening on my doorstep.

"Kier Starmer just today responding to criticism of him from the Tories and Musk over his record as DPP"

"So this government will get on with the job of protecting victims, including child sexual abuse, mandatory reporting, accelerating the processes"

Yesh, well unlike you I prefer to listen to the public that were and still are involved in cases like this and are speaking out.... as well as the victim's themselves.... and ex police personnel who are now admitting that information on Pakastani rape gangs was deliberately supressed

You carry on believing the politicians ....

Beeno's hero.

No.... I am dismissing it because it's all bullshit .... and I mean all of it

On what grounds do you call it bullshit. Was there a flaw in how the inquiry was carried out?

Nope, I just don't act like you and sweep any thing that might be concerning or illegal, under the carpet and pretend it isn't happening on my doorstep.

I'm not sweeping anything or the carpet. I'm not denying there hasn't been cases of child abuse involving Muslim grooming gangs in the UK, I'm just not over exaggerating their occurrences so I can denigrate an entire religion.

Yesh, well i prefer to listen the public that were and still are involved in cases like this and are speaking out.... as well as the victim's themselves.... and ex police personnel who are now admitting that information on Pakastani rape gangs was deliberately supressed

Yes absolutely there has been cases of Muslim grooming gangs abusing children in the UK and their have been failings by the police, in some cases a reluctance to investigate them as they didn't want to be seen as racist,  and there was also a failure by them to believe the victims possibly due to classism.

No one is is denying these things happened. The issue we have is both the right wing legacy media in the UK and right wing media online both in the UK and around the world focus and amplify these cases, while ignoring or not covering in as much detail cases involving white people abusing children which create the perception that Muslims are far more prone to this sort of thing than British/Western people.

You carry on believing the politicians ....

Lets see the stats in a year or two's time rather than taking a politician's word.

"On what grounds do you call it bullshit. Was there a flaw in how the inquiry was carried out?"

Because a comprehensive research project was done by people from multiple universities....and the Department of Childhood, Social Work and Social Care..... that left absoltely no doubt whatsoever, who the main perpetratorts were regarding GLCSE...... Group-Localised-Child-Sexual-Exploitation.

You are welcome to read the outcome, but in summary, of the 2 000 press reports between 1997 and 2017, 83% of the people in those cases had "recognisable" Muslim names.

It also stated that 1 in 2 200 Muslim men over the age of 16 in England and Wales have been prosecuted for a sexual offense.

Here is the very comprehensive report.

GLSCE Report

Now you might want to dispute this report, and that is fine, but my opinion on this whole issue is based off of witness testimony and evidence that has been previously provided, and also the ex police or social services individuals, as well as parents and victims that have previously and are now finding the bravery to come forward.... so you keep your opinion that it's all just racist rethoric...., and I'll keep mine, that this is factual.

Besides this very detailed report, I am also calling it bullshit because of the large amount of research that I have done on my own from multiple sources, and all of them are telling me the exact same thing.

"I'm not sweeping anything or the carpet. I'm not denying there hasn't been cases of child abuse involving Muslim grooming gangs in the UK, I'm just not over exaggerating their occurrences so I can denigrate an entire religion"

Stats don't lie... and I am not denigrating any religion, I am merely pointing out well researched stats and facts on sexual exploitation of young White girls in the UK.....it is not my fault that a certain religion has a huge disparity compared to others in this regard.

"Yes absolutely there has been cases of Muslim grooming gangs abusing children in the UK and their have been failings by the police, in some cases a reluctance to investigate them as they didn't want to be seen as racist,  and there was also a failure by them to believe the victims possibly due to classism"

You just keep minimising what happened to all these young White girls....you keep doing this continuously and very well I might add......so you keep downplaying what really happened.

Information and evidence, as well as testimonies from many many children, was hidden, suppressed, ignored.... thrown away and totally disregarded.....they were made to feel like nothing.....they were continuously threatend by Pakastani men and some even killed.

There were not just "some" cases that they were reluctant to investigate, there was an outright directive in some cases to never investigate a lot of these crimes....and also not to even report them......and in other instances, to literally leave them completely alone to roam the streets and target young White UK girls.....

"Now I'm not justifying her son's violent actions, but the fact that the motive for the violence was not reported wasn't unintentional. It was left out by people who want to give the impression that Muslims are just violent people by nature and who commit random acts of violence"

I'm not sure why you need to lie so much, but you seem to do this often

The motive for the violence from the Muslims's at the time was not known by anyone, hence why it was not reported

Stop lying to try and sensationalize a news story..... absolutely nobody reported about that close to when this incident happened, because at the time basically nobody knew what happened on the plane.... and I didn't see anything in the media until you just updated it here

You are being really childish and stupid here by playing this card that I didn't post anything at the time or go back and update an old post.... like most people here don't.......grow up and stop acting like a child.... I could do that with you and all your previous posts.

"Funnily enough DA never came back to give us an update on that incident. Doesn't fit with the two tier police system narrative does it"

Well clearly you decided to do a follow up on your own..... if you had asked, I would have obliged....but you just like to stoop too low because lying is disgraceful

I do not ignore facts - hat S tav ignore wwas what was ha ppening in  Sweden the crime country in Europe.   When the Socialist lost te eelction  last  year the new Pime Minister got the authority of the King to use the army to stop the raging battles between Migrant gangs fighting each other and the wider community. 

Those gangs basically were Muslims and the killing and  sabotage was so bad the  Swedish Police could not cope with it,    In Europe their were attacks on communities and terrorism in a string  coontries  and hudreds of people killed in France, the UK and Germany by Muslim fanataics and recently the French media were afraid that a civil war could erupt in Europe between Muslims and the Freench community,  

When I was in France  in 1972 I stayed in an Hotel near the Gare d' Nort which was an elite area for tourists.    When I was in Paris in 2000 I booked on the intenet accommodation in the hotel accomodation in St Denis and i took a taxi to the hotel.  The taxi said it was too dangerous  for him to enter the area and he dropped me off two street blocks from the hotel and explained to me how to get to the hotel and I walked the rest of the way.    So when I went to Paris  for the RWC in 2007 I booked accommodation in a h otel near the Gare d'Nort from where it is easy travelling to the Stade d' France.     Apparantly I was very lucky the hotel was about 200 meter from the station  and  there were heavy armed soldiers all over the show,   On my return to SA a French friend of mine said I should know that there are regular gun battles between the Police and the Muslim gangsters in the area,   The army was there to protect the tourist using the Gare d' Nort  to go to the rugby.    Since then there were at least three major majr terrorist attacks in France all inviolving Muslim gangs operating in Brussels and an attack in Brussels itelf,.

Sad to say  - but aside from alleged sexual abuse  there are also criminal gangs operating in the Mulim communiyies in Paris and in other Fench cities like Marseilles,    So i am not saying crime is confined to Muslims - all I am saying crime has grown substatially and migrant communties are the main perpetrators,      

DA

Stav is all for mass immigration because he lives on a mud island, likely far away from any area that has been overrun by foreigners that have basically taken over and turned it into something unrecognisable.

It's the type of person that will hail "diversity" as the saviour of everything human but won't actually be able to justify why it' s so amazing. 

I believe its called hook, line and sinker.

Because a comprehensive research project was done by people from multiple universities....and the Department of Childhood, Social Work and Social Care..... that left absoltely no doubt whatsoever, who the main perpetratorts were regarding GLCSE...... Group-Localised-Child-Sexual-Exploitation.

It was conducted by two universities and department of childhood, social work and social care was a department within one of those universities.

Absolutely no doubt? Did you actually read the report because in it they do acknowledge other researchers have made the point that the findings of the study could be skewed by the fact that the sample size is quite small and the fact that the research was reliant on media reports to find cases of GLCSE, thus if the media has a bias in reporting cases of Muslim grooming gangs over non Muslim gangs its going result a sampling error.

You are welcome to read the outcome, but in summary, of the 2 000 press reports between 1997 and 2017, 83% of the people in those cases had "recognisable" Muslim names.

It also stated that 1 in 2 200 Muslim men over the age of 16 in England and Wales have been prosecuted for a sexual offense.

Here is the very comprehensive report.

Coincidentally the percentage they arrive at of 83% is suspiciously similar to the 84% found in a report carried out bye Quillian who they reference in the paper, but that report was found to have used highly flawed methodology and wildly discredited.

Very comprehensive?. If you exclude the cover page and the reference pages, its a little over 17 pages long. Compare to that the reports I linked too.

Stats don't lie... and I am not denigrating any religion, I am merely pointing out well researched stats and facts on sexual exploitation of young White girls in the UK.....it is not my fault that a certain religion has a huge disparity compared to others in this regard.

I literally produced stats, but because you don't like them you just say there bullshit.

You just keep minimising what happened to all these young White girls....you keep doing this continuously and very well I might add......so you keep downplaying what really happened.

I'm not minimizing or downplaying anything . I'm just not fixated on these occurrences over and above occurrences of it when its done by white people, in attempt to push an agenda.

Information and evidence, as well as testimonies from many many children, was hidden, suppressed, ignored.... thrown away and totally disregarded.....they were made to feel like nothing.....they were continuously threatend by Pakastani men and some even killed.

There were not just "some" cases that they were reluctant to investigate, there was an outright directive in some cases to never investigate a lot of these crimes....and also not to even report them......and in other instances, to literally leave them completely alone to roam the streets and target young White UK girls.....

That's exactly what it was "some" cases that you are fixated on.

I'm not sure why you need to lie so much, but you seem to do this often

The motive for the violence from the Muslims's at the time was not known by anyone, hence why it was not reported

Stop lying to try and sensationalize a news story..... absolutely nobody reported about that close to when this incident happened, because at the time basically nobody knew what happened on the plane....

The incident occurred on July 24th, the motive was known within less than 24 hours.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/manchester-airport-incident-live-video-33325112?ruid=1e78850f-5152-4c39-a6d7-41d2ae33a784

When you brought up the incident on this forum weeks had passed since the incident occurred yet you never mentioned the motive. I suspect you didn't know because where you get your news from either didn't report it or mentioned it briefly in passing and you didn't notice or didn't pick up on it enough to remember.

And aside from the point, if you didn't know what the motive was shouldn't you refrain from commenting on it, what about getting all the facts?.

and I didn't see anything in the media until you just updated it here

Odd that. You seem to get all the news that reflects badly on Muslims and pick up everything you perceive as two tier system favoring Muslims and post about it here, but miss the news when it contradicts that. Awfully coincidental.

You are being really childish and stupid here by playing this card that I didn't post anything at the time or go back and update an old post.... like most people here don't.......grow up and stop acting like a child.... I could do that with you and all your previous posts.

You didn't have to go back and update a post. I just find it odd that you keep bringing up stuff of your own free volition that makes Muslims look bad but never take the time to post any of the stuff that contradicts that.

Well clearly you decided to do a follow up on your own..... if you had asked, I would have obliged....but you just like to stoop too low because lying is disgraceful

Why do I need to ask. I mean you took an interest in talking about the incident in a certain way. You where quite annoyed that the Muslims who where involved hadn't been charged, implying that it was more evidence of a two tier legal system in the UK favoring Muslims. Just find it interesting that the traffic is all one way with you. Zero balance.

Stav is all for mass immigration because he lives on a mud island, likely far away from any area that has been overrun by foreigners that have basically taken over and turned it into something unrecognisable.

LOL...How many times you guys going try that Mud Island troll?

Can you guys not even properly troll?

OMG the Muslims are taking over Europe, with their less than 6% of the EU population (+Norway & Switzer land)...quick run for the hills.

It's the type of person that will hail "diversity" as the saviour of everything human but won't actually be able to justify why it's so amazing. 

I believe its called hook, line and sinker.

Well I think diversity is a good thing and makes things more interesting and less boring in general and that immigration brings economic benefits. Its not without issues but I do believe the benefits outweigh the negatives. But hailing diversity as a savior of everything human...em no...I don't actually spend all that much time thinking about it.

Much like the Steele dossier.

Care to comment?

HOLY THREAD DERAILMENT BATMAN!!!

Stav, you're making the mistake of assuming Dumbass is capable of changing his narrow and closed little mind or has an IQ greater than a pot plant.

Neither one is true.

Two Pot talking about potted plants….haha…a classic.

Hook, line and sinker…..but I think you might land Anger more easily on a Woolly Bugger.

If it is true that Muslims are under reported due to protecting multiculturalism, that is not in the public interest. Everyone should know what the available information is. The rights of the victim must take precedence.

When these occurrences of the police being unwilling to look into Muslim perpetrated child abuse cases, its not so much protecting multiculturalism as it is the desire not to be seen to be racist. There may also be concerns that investigations into Muslims child sex abuse cases would whip racial violence in the UK. Ironically its these sort of incidents that drive up suspicion of Muslims.

We have to be careful of our own biases. Muslims are not my favourite cup of tea, so I often assume the worst when they are involved in something bad.

This is something that needs to be gotten to be bottom of, as on one side it could mean blaming Muslims in general - regardless of what % are involved in this. On the other side, if they are in fact much worse than the national average - then why are more new imports allowed here?

Well the previous UK government commissioned a report which made 20 recommendations which it ignored. Its a more than a bit ironic that the Tories are now calling for another report.

But some people just are set in their ways.

Look at DA's first response to my post. I posted a link to a video that cited that report. And he started questioning my character and calling me pathetic. All I did was cite a source that was quoting what amounts to about as hard evidence as you can get on the issue. I mean I wasn't expecting him to respond positively but how else are you suppose to try to have a debate on the topic. Its clear that some people have already made reached their conclusions and won't even begin to consider other possibilities.

Stav has a weird logic - if Muslim criminals commit murder - like ISIS did - or if mslims mmarry child brides of as young as 9 ears old - people  must not discuss such issues because by doing or you criticise all Mslims in a region.   in other words you must keep quiet about atrocities and just ignore what happened,    

Look at DA's first response to my post. I posted a link to a video that cited that report. And he started questioning my character and calling me pathetic. All I did was cite a source that was quoting what amounts to about as hard evidence as you can get on the issue. I mean I wasn't expecting him to respond positively but how else are you suppose to try to have a debate on the topic. Its clear that some people have already made reached their conclusions and won't even begin to consider other possibilities.

No surprises, DA is being true to his tradition, firstly he won't debate sincerely, just like ButtPlug he's all about winning the 'debate' and to put you down in the process by insulting your character as they have in the above posts. Like Buttplug he is a child of Apartheid, when a muslim rapes a white girl it is 10 times worse than when a white man rapes a white girl, the comparison to Apartheid as an example is no different, when a black man raped a white girl it was 10 times worse than when a white man raped a black girl. I'm quoting South African magistrates.

Stav, once again I'll say to you, you're wasting your time debating the pair of prejudiced and racist would be's if they could be. 

Mike please for just one thread, or even for just one post, can you stop being the dumbest indoctrinated motherf**ker on the planet.