"You make it sound as if the debate is painful, well, it works two ways. But just before you float away, I ask again.......if you were part of the oppressed how would you have felt towards the whites who were the oppressors and who by majority voted for evil Apartheid?"
If you hate me so much, I really don't get why my opinion on a serious issue such as this would matter to you at all... or even why it is important for you that I answer you.......I really don't, because I know it will not mean anything to you at all.
So you won't answer the question instead you withdraw yourself and make it all personal. It's quite simple really, all I've asked is to put yourself in the shoes of the oppressed and to then tell your feelings towards those who would have oppressed you.
Over the many years on this forum, in the long term, at specific points, you have shown nothing but anger and complete hatred towards White people, repeatedly over the years calling us so many times "You Lot" ..."Your Lot"...... "arrogant White South Africans" ... "Your Kind" ...Racist and quite a few other very choice descriptions for being a White man in South Africa.....
It's a pity but those are just blatant lies and once again political point scoring from you. I have only once used the term "You lot" not over many years. For a little while there I was foolish enough to believe that we were going somewhere with this debate, I now recognize I was hopelessly wrong. But here's the thing, whites were a law unto themselves, did whatever they wanted to do to the oppressed, thought of black people as kaffirs and called them such, also called colored people Hottnots, magistrates and white priests and I quote "Black people mustn't say Our Father because God was a white man" but here you are offended when I say 'You Lot' on an insignificant rugby message board. Helloooooooo.
Growing up for me personally, there were so many of"our lot of arrogant White South Africans" that were actually 100% dead set against Apartheid and what it stood for, why it was implemented and how it was enforced, and how it horribly and disgustingly affected millions and millions of totally innocent people ......
Really??? Funny that for some strange reason"there were so many" didn't reflect where it mattered most and that was in the ballot box. Another funny when one speaks to white people of that era, like you the first thing they'd say is I had many black friends. How was that possible when ethnic groups were divided into what was known as Group Areas and that it was illegal for black people to frequent white areas after dark. I mean you did say you had many black friends.
But it honestly doesn't really matter at all how I feel about it..... because I will automatically still be called that racist arrogant White South African, by you, and many people like you... even though I had absolutely zero to do with Apartheid, and absolutely hated it.... but purely because my skin is fair..
Well, we've all been affected by Apartheid, just in different ways, what you can't deny is that the system affected white people in that it was beneficial to them simply because of their pigmentation.
Arrogant much?
Did you know that there was an immigration policy fully funding whites to migrate to South Africa? Did you know that the Nationalist party was dissatisfied with white South African population numbers and funded white families so as to produce more offspring?
So that is all I am prepared to respond with, because all you or someone else will end up doing is taking any lived experience or information that I provide or submit, and use it against me in some extremely insulting way, which is precisely why I never ever reveal personal information on this forum...
Which is exactly what you're guilty of when I revealed my opinions on this forum.
I ask nothing of you or any white person I guess all I wanted was for a healthy debate , I don't seek reprisal, the past is the past it can't change, we just have to live with it as best we can, we've had our differences but that is just part and parcel of a message board. I'm happy in Oz. Also as part of my cleansing process I've spent time with a few white SAFFAS on this forum, go ahead, ask them about me. I also have several white ozzie friends. Pardon my speak, it's a shame that it's sunk to this level for as a rule I see humans' first long before I see colour.
Enough has been said, it's a pity that it was a wasted effort but you take care, we can only control what we can, we are all victims of circumstance.
I'm done.