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How many planets in the Milky Way?

Started by Plum235 REPLIES2,551 VIEWS· 21 Mar 2019, 18:32
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 Mar 2019, 18:32
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21 Mar 2019, 18:32#1

On November 4, 2013, astronomers reported, based on Kepler space mission data, that there could be as many as 40 billion Earth-sized planets orbiting in the habitable zones of Sun-like stars and red dwarf stars within the Milky Way galaxy. 11 billion of these estimated planets may be orbiting Sun-like stars.


...And how many galaxies are there again?


From the complexity of microscopic fungi to an infinite amount of world's out there, the universe really is amazing.

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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
21 Mar 2019, 19:14
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21 Mar 2019, 19:14#2

There were more galaxies than grains of sand on our beaches. Yes, past tense because what we see now is in many cases the situation as it was thousands or even millions of years ago (it takes light very long time to reach us ... and that is why inter planetary travel will probably be limited to our solar system).

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Mar 2019, 20:54
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21 Mar 2019, 20:54#3

Bai e.. fcn baie.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Mar 2019, 21:14
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21 Mar 2019, 21:14#4
We are limited to our solar system.....so are all the little green men in flying saucers. If they dont come from our solar system they probably dont exist.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Mar 2019, 21:14
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21 Mar 2019, 21:14#5
More than 11000 years at the fastest speed man has ever attained to get to the nearest star.....we are limited to our solar system. The nearest star is 4.3 light years away. The fastest speed man has ever attained in space is....25000 mph.....Apollo 11. That translates into 69.44 miles per second. The speed of light is 186000 miles per second. So light speed is 2679 times faster than the best we have done . Thus if it takes 4.3 years for light to reach the nearest star....our best so far is 4.3x2679=11520 years. That would be about 350 generations. With the limited number of people on a space ship it seems to me they might be barking mad from in breeding by the time the Space ship lands. And damn hungry!
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
22 Mar 2019, 11:13
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22 Mar 2019, 11:13#6

Lol Moz!

Was reading about tidally locked planets orbiting red dwarf stars.

They need to be so close to the star to be within the Goldilocks zone and have water in liquid form that they are tidally locked by the gravity of their star, with the same side of the planet always facing the sun. Like our moon.

The constant warming of the front side causes air to raise and travel back towards the dark side where it cools and then makes its way back to the light side. 

A constant cold wind blowing from the dark side of the planet. One could write an entire thesis on how such an extreme constant might affect cultural ideas. 

On earth, God is associated.with the sun and light. Satan with darkness. 

The most habitable zone...is the zone that is between the light and dark side of the planet. It experiences a never ending sunset. Is their God the cocktail king?

What we see on earth, is that societies from harsher climates, specifically cold ones, seem to out do those in the tropics, it's interesting to consider how on a planet such as the one above, societies would evolve over time. 

Translucent skinned brutes with giant pupils and hearts that run at 20bpm. The harsher the climate the more teamwork is required. So one could imagine such a group to operate almost as a hive mind.

I need to limit my sci-fi intake


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Mar 2019, 01:24
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23 Mar 2019, 01:24#7
Plum have you read "To Your Scattered Bodies Go", by Farmer. It has echoes of some your speculations.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 Mar 2019, 12:54
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24 Mar 2019, 12:54#8

Read a synopsis of it Moz. 

Seems pretty out there. Takes inspiration from Plato's cave somewhat by the looks of things.

You're one for one since I enjoyed The Big Short, so I'll check it out.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Mar 2019, 09:09
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25 Mar 2019, 09:09#9

The heavenly firmament has been a place of wonder since forever ... producing an assortment of gods to worship ... including Allah the Moon god, who by the way is one of many names for Lucifer.

Space is mysterious and will hold on to it's secrets for an eternity.

All we can do is look up and wonder ... ask a thousand unanswerable questions ... and think of what could be ... it's enough to drive us all insane.

 


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 Mar 2019, 10:10
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25 Mar 2019, 10:10#10

CC, im sure as someone that games, you have a good idea of software engines.

The amount of time and work it take to create just one engine that operates within a small and finate space, allowing for only one avenue of variable. Normally bug rudden and and flawed too.

Sitting back and looking at the the world around, how nuts is the engine our reality runs on?

From tiny stuf to vast and unimaginably big expanses and and bodies. And the rules change depending on the scale as well, yet everything fits and works.

I'm constantly in awe.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Mar 2019, 11:18
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25 Mar 2019, 11:18#11

Well, Plum ... it's impossible not to be ... someone put it all in place and the thought of that enhances one's wonder.

To think that everything was a deliberate action and not just some random cosmic explosion is as mysterious as the creation itself.

No ... I know you don't believe in a creator and I'm not pushing to debate it ... it's just that some of us do ... so when we look into the heavens and see all it's splendor .. we're left a little more amazed than those who don't.

Ever gone for a horse ride on a farm ... alone? Ever find yourself in the middle of nowhere ... a body of water in front of you ... where the silence is deafening ... makes one think.


 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Mar 2019, 12:04
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25 Mar 2019, 12:04#12

This could spark an interesting debate....I reckon.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
25 Mar 2019, 12:43
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25 Mar 2019, 12:43#13

I want to know how a theist thinks he knows that they are more amazed at the universe than us Atheists.

Surely we are more amazed as we think its all random chance and not designed, according to you lot that is more unlikely than someone designing all this let alone created it out of nothing.

So I will state we are much more amazed than those who do.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 Mar 2019, 13:47
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25 Mar 2019, 13:47#14

CC

I have no issues with creationism. For me it's a perfectly valid possibility. But i separate it from religion in that i dont beleive a creator necessarily needs to be a god. God might be the creator, or not. Just a personal choice really.

The argument that goes along the lines of everything being so finely tuned that it must have been planned also holds a ton of water. The best counter i have heard to it is something like this...

Touch your nose with one finger. Now i measure the exact moment that you touched your nose. Not in seconds or in nanoseconds but in billionths of a nanosecond. There is a preceise instant at which your finger and nose made contact.

Now, why didnt it happen a moment before or a moment after but at the very precise moment that it did? Surely you must have planned it for it to be so precise and so measurable down to the tinest fraction of time. Surely for you to act so act so precisely much planning and calculation must have occured.

The longwinded point there is that very precise consequence is possible without any real intention.

Saderfan, i disagree. Religious people add a God or group of gods to their contemplations. Kinda apples and oranges but both groups have a human brain in common and nobody is ever gonna break the universe or god down into small enough pieces of information for us to understand it all. The result in both cases, when one steps back and looks at the world, is amazement.

I was gonna have lunch. Oh well.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Mar 2019, 14:16
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25 Mar 2019, 14:16#15

Sader, it's not a competition. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2019, 14:38
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25 Mar 2019, 14:38#16

Perhaps the most wondrously absurd thing one could ever hear is the atheists argument about a Universe creating itself out of nothing like these hatter atheists truly think. Hahahahhahahaha these clowns leave me in stitches so often!

How wonderfully Science has now proven God. No excuse left for even the dumbest atheist "fool"

These buffoons had better wise up.

But i digress "the heavens declare the glory of God" so ponder the magnificence of the Universe you atheists and maybe the penny will drop.

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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
25 Mar 2019, 14:52
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25 Mar 2019, 14:52#17

Even travelling at the speed of light is slow in the universe scale of things, or even the galaxy. The closest star is more than 2 light years away, and it is not possible to travel at the speed of light.

Star travel may be possible by using a wormhole, or perhaps a spaceship that can bend and fold space/time using gravity in front and behind while travelling.  
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0264-9381/11/5/001/metahttp://techland.time.com/2012/09/19/nasa-actually-working-on-faster-than-light-warp-drive/



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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
25 Mar 2019, 15:01
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25 Mar 2019, 15:01#18

Science has proven god? Bwahahahaha

Care to post a link to the ground breaking proven scientific data that does this?

Bet you will post links to cretard wack job sites full of psuedo science waffle with no corroborating evidence. Only the feeble minded believe young earth creation bull shit.

The earth is 6,000 years old, man was made from dust (or dirt cant remember which) and females are made from a rib hahahahaha. what a load of utter nonsense.

And one other thing beeno, you always say we are stupid for believing that everything came from nothing (we dont) but where did god get all the "stuff" to make everything if it was all created?

He must have made it from nothing right because he created everything. You do realise you have been mocking your own beliefs right hahahahahaha what a moron.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2019, 16:23
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25 Mar 2019, 16:23#19
Still using the offensive Crusader nick.....stop being a hypocrite hypocrite.
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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
25 Mar 2019, 16:32
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25 Mar 2019, 16:32#20
The most popular theory about the origins of the universe shared by scientists is the Big Bang Theory . However because Beeno's church preacher said science has proven God, it must be a fact. After all, this is the same guy who supplied the afterlife insurance policy. 
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
25 Mar 2019, 21:54
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25 Mar 2019, 21:54#21

I see the standard response from the looney christians when asked to put up some facts to prove what they say, either nothing (beeno) or throw insults to try and divert attention away (snowflake).


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Mar 2019, 23:42
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25 Mar 2019, 23:42#22
Insults? How can one insult a politically incorrect Crusader....that's like correcting Attila the Hun's grammar. But I guess this means it's okay to call oneself something that upsets a part of the population as long as that group is beaten down enough and fearful enough not to object. Got it!
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Mar 2019, 02:20
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26 Mar 2019, 02:20#23

Whoosh

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Mar 2019, 04:50
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26 Mar 2019, 04:50#24
Which was your favourite Crusade .....Crusader fan?
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Mar 2019, 05:47
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26 Mar 2019, 05:47#25

1998 was right up there but also 1999,2000, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 20017, 20018 all hold fond memories.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Mar 2019, 05:48
#26
26 Mar 2019, 05:48#26

Which one of those is your favorite snowflake?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Mar 2019, 05:57
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26 Mar 2019, 05:57#27
'1998 was right up there but also 1999,2000, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2008, 20017, 20018 all hold fond memories.' Ooh I like 20017.... but in all honesty it was kind of a long wait! Stay down......dimwit.
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Mar 2019, 06:17
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26 Mar 2019, 06:17#28

Whoosh yet again

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Mar 2019, 06:20
#29
26 Mar 2019, 06:20#29

You must be a midget snowflake because EVERYTHING goes over your head doesn't it  hahahahahah

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Mar 2019, 07:58
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26 Mar 2019, 07:58#30

Crusader Fan I posted Prof Lennoxes talk about the Genisis account which shows very clearly the Earth is not saying the earth is 6000 years.

So why are you lying again doofus. 

You are as thick as a plank and ought to confine yourself to rugby scoreboard analysis.

Yes I have made many posts showing the evidence that science has provided that Proves the existence God. 

Bet your bigotry never allowed you to look at the evidence. Just like you sucked up the Russian collusion delusion as evidence means zip to a profoundly bigoted nutjob like you. 

Man this clown can be bracketed with that arch buffoon rooijackass the Red

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Mar 2019, 08:13
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26 Mar 2019, 08:13#31

If in fact what you say is true why does science state otherwise you doofus

I can give you many more names of scientists that state the complete opposite but your bigotry and stupidity do not let you look at the evidence you profundly retarded buffoon

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Mar 2019, 08:22
#32
26 Mar 2019, 08:22#32

Plum ... THAT ... is a very interesting thought. A god ... but not necessarily a creator.

What would qualify Him as a God then? According to my understanding, a God is a super being ... a ruler ... powerful ... someone worthy of worship because of what He's capable of ... because of what He's achieved ... a creator of life ... and a ruler over death.

The only non creating gods that I know of are usually man made ... like dead inanimate objects made of stone or wood ... or false gods that desire worship ... like Lucifer, the Moon god Allah, Buddha ... and so forth ...

By saying "a god" you are actually implying that there's more than one of these deities ... like Odin and Thor ... or Athena ... Zeus!!

We are all subject to time ... well, at least all that I see around me is subject to it. Even the stars burn out at some time or another. They aren't eternal. It rules over us all. We measure everything by it. How long it took to boil an egg ... how much time we have left to live in this form ... the distance we travel in a light year ... a set appointment at a specific time when we'll gather for an important meeting ...  how much time it took Bolt to run the 200m ... so much so that we all wear a time piece on our wrist. It dominates our day. Every day.

Time is the most valuable thing we know of ... highly sought after ... unattainable ... something that we cannot buy. It is totally beyond us.

What if there's a being that's not subject to time. What if that being exists outside time? What if this being ruled over time ... what if He used it as a means to bring all things under His control ... even death is subject to time?

Would that qualify Him as a god? Would that make Him worthy of worship? Would we be able to measure him at all ... even in a billionth of a nanosecond?

It is human nature to assign God a place among us. We often refer to Him as "the man upstairs" ... or even picture Him as having a human form with a great white beard ... as though he were just a hyped version of us.

What if He isn't anything like us. What if He didn't look like us at all ... what if He didn't think like us.

My point is that everything that is, was deliberately put in place by a being that we cannot measure ... that we cannot fathom and it's all there precisely as He wants it, as He planned it ...
I do not believe in coincidence ... and so reject the theory that sme cosmic explosion happened when a few random chemicals came together at a specific time (there's that word again ... "time") and brought everything we know together ... without any proper thought or planning involved.   

Interesting thoughts there, Plum.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
26 Mar 2019, 08:31
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26 Mar 2019, 08:31#33
"Crusader Fan I posted Prof Lennoxes talk about the Genisis account which shows very clearly the Earth is not saying the earth is 6000 years."
So let me just get this straight, Baboon-ou, you once posted a link to a Youtube clip and that somehow proves that has always been your belief?
Also - forgetting for one second what "the Earth is not saying that the earth is 6000 years" might possibly mean - when did you reject Young Earth Creationism? You used to be a Young Earth Creationist and now you're not one anymore . . . when did this change happen and what caused it?
Try to be a big boy and answer the actual questions instead of ducking and diving in your usual cowardly manner. I don't need your interpretation of Creation, just confirm that you're no longer a YEC and what changed your mind. Thanks.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Mar 2019, 08:43
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26 Mar 2019, 08:43#34

The Earth is not 6000 years old.

Haaaaaaaaahahahahahaaa!!!

Anyone who believes that probably also believes that the earth is flat, and has an edge we can fall off of.



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
26 Mar 2019, 08:47
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26 Mar 2019, 08:47#35
I have no idea if Baboon-thinks the earth is younger than 6000 years or older than 6000 years. His feeble little brain seems to have overheated again and he's all over the place.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Mar 2019, 09:42
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26 Mar 2019, 09:42#36

Nope more silly billy lies from ou rooitwit and cohorts. Have always said, many times, i have no idea how old the earth is. The bible doesn't tell me and science has conflicting claims so Beeno being the astute person he is takes a very reasonable stance.

Those claiming 13.5 billion years should' if they have any intellectual integrity which of course they mostly don't, consider evidence for a younger earth. Hence my posting some evidence that the earth could be younger than 13.5 billion years.

The Chumps of course ignore the issue of the Universe creating itself out of nothing and how the human male and female evolved.

Of course these closed minded bigots wont have listened to what Prof Lennox has to say. Hence their amazing level of ignorance!

Are you getting a glimmer C humps!


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 Mar 2019, 10:02
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26 Mar 2019, 10:02#37

Beenz. ATM the scientific consensus seems to be that the universe is about 13.772 billion years old (with an uncertainty of 59 million years} and the Earth only about 4.543 billion years old.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
26 Mar 2019, 10:09
#38
26 Mar 2019, 10:09#38
So then answer the second question you stupid moron, when did you cease to be a Young Earth Creationist and what made you change?
Was it all the humiliations you endured as you tried to prove that dinosaurs co-existed with man?
PS And what does "the Earth is not saying the earth is 6000 years" mean, chump? Your words, not mine.
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Mar 2019, 12:12
#39
26 Mar 2019, 12:12#39

Evolution of man is well known in fact it is so well known it is a scientific theory (look uip the mean of a Scientific theory ), what is not known is how life started in the first place.

And since we dont know that doesnt mean you get to make shit up just because your a fuckin idiot.

Your statements above beeno show that you have not looked at both sides of the discussion as you keep repeating all the same errors that the cretards continue to spew out

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Mar 2019, 12:35
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26 Mar 2019, 12:35#40

Theory is not fact.

It's a set of ideas that some confused dude put together in an attempt to explain his thoughts ... maybe even after too many beers. 

Evolution is a theory ... a fabrication ... based on nothing other than thumb sucking.

Someone wanted to make sense of it all and so came up with this nonsense ... and now the world calls it fact.

It's not.

It's a lot closer to utter rubbish than it is to actual fact.


 

 

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