How many planets in the Milky Way?

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaa!!!

Man and Dinosaur are separated by millions of years.

They both lived on earth ... but not at the same time. Not by a long shot.

Hilarious.

... "facts" ... ?? ... like what ... ?

Nearly all doctors and scientists agree that evolution is what created people. A chimpanzee has the closest DNA to a human being/ Dormant genes within life forms show common ancestors. It is not a theory.

Facts like the fossil record, genetics, carbon dating, mitochondrial DNA, speciation . . . not even god-botherers dispute a lot of the facts that support Evolution . . . it's how those facts are applied that gets you Creationists all red-faced and tearful.

Now, what facts can you point to that support your theory of Creationism?

All I can say is the educatioin system in SA must be farkin appalling with the number of people on here that are so ignorant of the sciences.

FFS the shear stupidity of some people on here is unbelievable.

I have no facts to prove the existence of my God ... and I've said so before. Unlike BeanDip, I have no desire to convert you, and am not desperate enough to conjure random nonsense to make my point. 

Everything that I believe in is based on a personal relationship that I have ... the experiences that come with it ... and what I was taught by His Spirit. It's not even a relationship based on faith ... I know that know that He exists. There is absolute no doubt.

A relationship with God is based on faith (in most cases) ... not by sight ... nor any other means. That is not how He wants it. I have no power to reveal Him to anyone. He reveals Himself to whomever ... whenever ... as He sees fit.

Come now, Redneck ... "fossil records" ... what fossils ... ?

Genetics? Mitochondrial DNA?

A chimpanzee is separated from man by the smallest of margins genetically ... and yet they're very different to us. A totally different species. We are not related in any way ... well, I certainly am not ... maybe you are.

Carbon dating is probably the funniest of them all. The best they can do is come to the closest billionth year. Even 100 000 years would be laughable and yet everyone puts their trust in "this creature lived around 10 billion years ago" ... and we're supposed to take this as fact.

Haaaaaahahaha Nah ... I don't think so.

Speciation is just an evolutionary term that these theorist throw around. It means nothing ... it has no basis in fact ... it's a lot of wishful thinking ... by people who are desperate to explain away the possible existen ce of God.

Well go ahead Sader Fan ... enlighten us dumbass Africans.

Well, well we'll the peeping perv has worked himself into a complete froth because I reminded him for the umpteenth time I don't know the age of the Universe. I recall giving a chart out showing how these evolutionists nutjob kept increasing the age of Universe from a few thousand years. I then proved evidence as to how unreliable potassium argon dating was.

 Now doubtless you dumbasses never bothered to look at the mountains of modern scientific evidence

I provided overwhelming EVIDENCE as to the absurdity of the evolutionary hoax. But like the narrow minded brain washed bigots you were with the Russian collusion BS so you are with the evolution hoax.

As for how long ago dinosaurs existed I posted evidence where preserved dinosaur tissue had been found which proved their roaming the earth until fairly recently. 

Guess you nutjob didn't see my post re this  what was hailed as a great discovery. The facts are you are so captured you can't dare even to take a look at the EVIDENCE.

You are the same clowns who sucked up the global cooling story. Then it changed to man made global warming so you jumped ship. When that was debunked you became.

Climate change fanatics like poor ABASS who Dr Moz destroyed. 

You are so indoctrinated you never asked why this BS is being pedaled and was wondering when the first clown would be saying we have 12 years left a LA nutcase AOC.

Or how about Trump couldn't win. How come you believed he had no chance? Answer because you were like the Russian Collusion hoax.told to believe it. You are meant slaves and of course when your masters tell you the next hoax you will run after it as fast as you can being the Pavlov Ian dogs you are! 

BWHAHAHAHAHA what a bunch of complete dummies you are.

I hope you can see what jackasses you have made of yourselves and I am sure you wonder how Beeno got it right. Hahahahaha. If you dumbasses pull up your socks I might give you a helping hand. 

Evolution was taught in school in biology classes. 

I am surprised that so many challenges this. However, it is only the Christians that seem to challenge evolution. Stupids...

Then again the bible also claimed the world was flat. The bible was originally designed to be taken literally, but with so much BS in it- some Christians later said it should only be taken figuratively. 

So much stuff has been removed from the bible over the years, and this was after being translated from other languages. There are so many different versions of the Bible, and the gospels (Mathew, Mark, Luke, John etc, etc)- describe the same events very differently within the same bible. 

https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

Some readers have misinterpreted this document, supposing that Bob Schadewald is defending the idea that the earth is flat. That was not his intent. Some fundamentalist Christians are uncomfortable with the many passages in the Old Testament that seem to support the flat earth model, clearly contradicting abundant scientific evidence that the earth is a round and spinning ball. See: Is the earth a round, spinning ball. So they rationalize and re-interpret these passages to defend their faith that their Bible is without error. Bob, in this essay, tries to show that they can't get away with this cheap trick, for the writers of the Bible really did believe the earth to be flat. After all, the Old Testament was written by people with little interest in or knowledge of even the rudimentary scientific knowledge of their neighbors. They borrowed their myths and misinformation, without understanding.

Yes ... I know about the existence of fossils ... but none that prove we come from apes ... or anything else. In fact, there's no proof of any evolved creature today with links to another ancient species. None whatsoever.

It's all conjecture.

So carbon dating has proven itself a failure ... onto the next method, huh? ... and when that too comes up short ... by a few million years ... what then ... ? ... will we move on to the next best version of dating the past? It's wide window is conveniently placed to help convince the clueless. 

The only thing that it proves is that you lot have no clue ... and that you are all rummaging around in the dark ... ever hopeful. 

I'm afraid that none of your so called "facts" prove anything, Redneck. It's just a theory based on what ifs.

" Magic Beardman waving his Magic Wand."

The Bible condemns magic, divination and other superstitions and makes no mention of God having a beard or a wand. 

There was this primordial soup...

Rooi

No problems with evolution here. 

The missing link is a problem though.

The most complex organ known. It went like this...

Wheel...Cart...Spaceship.

The hell happened between cart and spaceship? 

Why is there so much fossil evidence for older and less  abundant human ancestors but zip for that miraculous one where the most profound change occured?

After all, for the brain to have made the strides that it did during that period, a large and sustained population would have been required. You can't evolve the human brain from a population of a few thousand. That amount of mutations needs time and volume, serious volume. 

For me, sure evolution makes sense. 

I'd just add that evolution in such a large universe might not always happen in a vacuum. My feeling is that we underestimate the world  beyond our reach. 

Here's a stupid example. At some point we'll be able to create self replicating nano-machines. It's not hard to imagine that we'd use those machines to do a bunch of stuff for us. Like DNA on juice, it'll replicate information from one unit to the next. As it builds more of itself, in different versions for different purproses, it'll transform environments to suite. 

That's something that we'll be able to do in the relatively near future. 

The result will be that we'll be able to send those nano-bots out into the universe to do our bidding and increase the scope of our singularity.

If I were to guess, based on the age, size and potential of what's out there, I'd say that civilisations capable of that, they're only the tip of the iceberg. 

People might find that scary. To me it's humbling.

By the way, I don't think everyone here is aware of the difference between theory and hypothesis. 

Yep one strand of DNA has 350 volumes of Encyclopedia Brittanica encoded on it. 

The human genone has over 3 billion letters all in the right order. (there are four letters A, CGT) GOOGLE IT AND BE AMAZED. EG the lingth of all your DNA is twice the circumference of the solar system. The 3 blion letters exist in every cell. 

The chances of the simplest cell forming by chance are are 10 to the power of 125.

No total number of atoms in the universe is said to be 10 to the power of 75.

As former leading world atheist leader Antony Flue said the encoded information lead him to God. Because oaks it speaks of dazzling intelligence. 

All dumbass atheists need to just shut their silly traps and realize what fools science has made of them. 

There is ZERO EVIDENCE FOR MACRO EVOLUTION. A DOG REMAINS A DOG WHATEVER THE SHAPE OR SIZE. 

97% of scientist say they know it all???? you just proved you are a fool. I have never seen or heard a scientist say that they know everything. I would bet that that number is more like 0.000001% and that fool will be a creationist "scientist" with a certificate in oragami or something.

But we get all manner of fools on here saying they know its all god with nothing but faith (you know that useless things fools use because their brains dont work).

When a programmer looks at a programmer like SAP nobody in their right minds would say it just happened by chance. But here we have things far, far more complex. Darwin spoke of the simple amoeba. It's stupendously complex!

The idea of a universe creating itself from nothing is absurd. As Einstein said - nonsense remains nonsense no matter how brilliant the mind that utters it. 

And God just happened by chance, because there is no logical explanation that is 100% certain, the only alternative is to accept something that is even less logical...

The facts remain that most of the smartest people in the world are not creationists. 

Sure scientists get things wrong, but that does not make science wrong - only the current understanding of it. 

If you needed heart surgery, would you want your local pastor or plumber to perform the surgery or a doctor- even if a doctor has made some mistakes over the course of their career ?. 

So just making shit up with no facts is fine and these ramblings should be taken just as seriously as any theory based on known facts, you have to be kidding snowflake. Come on admit it your a troll as you cannot be that stupid, can you?

I take that back after reading your posts, you are that stupid. Tell me are you allowed outside on your own and who ties your shoe laces for you ?

Right now they(Hawking, Suskind etc) are leaning toward the universe being a 3d representation of a 2d data a string.

A hologram. 

Sound nuts? Fact check it, you'll see.

If that is the case, then everything just got a whole lot stranger.

It would mean that the edge of the universe is literally a wall of code. That code is being generated and is housed inside of a technology. The technology itself is likely only a fraction of the size of the reality that it projects. Time inside and outside the machine have no relation to each other.

And it explains a lot. From  the weird way that the subatomic scale behaves differently to its larger counterp art to the existence of constants. 

God might just be a programmer. An actual programmer. 

Try I don't know snowflake, at least I am not making shit up.

So you think anything that science doesn't know is proof that its god?

So what do you do when (or if)  science answers that question? Bet it makes no difference to what you want to believe and you will convenietly forget about that.

You tell me how you evolve a vacuum, bumpkin, and I'll concede you have a point. 

Unanswerable. Although even a vacuum is something but it's the closest to saying how does something evolve from nothing.

Can we even imagine nothing?

I don't believe we can.

Does nobody else have more to add?

Surely we can speculate a little more.

There is agreat story how some Russvan students took on their dumb atheist professor. He had been boldly declaring there was no creator - many years ago of course before scvnce had proved other wise. One day the dumbass professor entered the lecture theater and found a to scale model of the solar system.

Who made this he bellowed. Somebody must have made this.Who made this? No body answered for fear of reprisals. The point though had been made.

An atheist walking in the bush finds a Watch. Who made this he wonders. How utterly simply a Watch is.

But oaks watch this clip.Unfortunately its beyond poor raving loon Crusader Flunky's grasp but i am sure most here will be able to follow, things become clearer as the clip continues so don't despair if you struggle initially. Yes indeed Science has proven God exists. The last statement is hilarious - what a shock these atheists scientists got!!

Anthony Flew

Anthony Flew: alternative spelling: Antony Flew.

Flew was the son of a Methodist minister. He became an atheist at the age of 15 and was for fifty years one of the world's leading proponents of atheism. He taught philosophy at prestigious universities including Oxford, Aberdeen, Keele, and Reading universities in Britain. He lectured around the world and wrote many important books and articles proclaiming atheism and the impossibility of God. In 2004 he changed his mind, explaining in the video "Has Science Discovered God?" that based on scientific principles he believes there must be a God who is responsible for creating life as we know it. He further outlined his new position in the 2005 edition of his book God and Philosophy. Flew's concept of God is a pointedly Deist one. He specifically said he believes in "the non-interfering God of the people called Deists--such as Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin." [Source: The Secular Web; URL: http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=369] As for reports that he had been attending Quaker meetings, Flew explained that he had attended only 3 or 4 Quaker meetings, one of which was his cousin's wedding. He said the main attraction in Quakerism for him was "the lack of doctrines." The significance of the shift in Flew's thinking should not be exaggerated. He did not formally join a religious denomination, nor is his overall thinking substantially different from what it had been, aside from the fact that he used to believe in atheism and he now believes there must be a God.

From: Associated Press, "Famous Atheist Now Believes in God", ABC News, 9 December 2004; (URL: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=315976):

A British philosophy professor who has been a leading champion of atheism for more than a half-century has changed his mind. He now believes in God more or less based on scientific evidence, and says so on a video released Thursday. At age 81, after decades of insisting belief is a mistake, Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature, Flew said in a telephone interview from England. Flew said he's best labeled a deist like Thomas Jefferson, whose God was not actively involved in people's lives... "[God] could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose." Flew first made his mark with the 1950 article "Theology and Falsification"... Over the years, Flew proclaimed the lack of evidence for God while teaching at Oxford, Aberdeen, Keele, and Reading universities in Britain, in visits to numerous U.S. and Canadian campuses and in books, articles, lectures and debates. There was no one moment of change but a gradual conclusion over recent months for Flew... Yet biologists' investigation of DNA "has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved," Flew says in the new video, "Has Science Discovered God?"... The first hint of Flew's turn was a letter to the August-September issue of Britain's Philosophy Now magazine. "It has become inordinately difficult even to begin to think about constructing a naturalistic theory of the evolution of that first reproducing organism," he wrote... Flew's "name and stature are big. Whenever you hear people talk about atheists, Flew always comes up," 

So oaks you can see if an atheist is truthful and wants to find truth it is possible by God's wonderful grace that they can turn away from their incredible folly. Note it was the information that spoke of intelligence that turned this Flew . So overwhelming was the evidence. Now expect poor crusader flunky to rant and rave as per normal. Hahahahahahaha the guy is so unhinged it is comical an "adult" could behave like him - very immature and confused oak.

Why dont you check out Lawrence Krauss or Neil Degrasse Tyson for some a change beeno so you can hear some true scientific facts .

Also you still havent explained how god made everything out of nothing let alone how god appeared from nothing, how any unhinged religious loon flunky moron can believe everything came from nothing amazes me. 

But we know beenshit will do 1 of 3 things, 1) ignore it because he cant answer it 2) threaten me with eternal damnation for not believing in his sky fairy or 3) say god is eternal and only he can be just because thats what he wants to believe because all you need is faith (otherwise called stupidity).  Bwahahahaha what a fool beeno is, so sad that the mentally impaired are allowed on the internet, you would think that they would not allow computers in the padded cells