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How many planets in the Milky Way?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Apr 2019, 11:22
#201
02 Apr 2019, 11:22#201

Are you saying that you dont know how a metor impact in Greenland could cause flooding or are you saying that it could not have caused the "great flood'?

Still, i'd really like your thoughts in the similarities in flood mythology. It's a question on its own, and really doesnt even require there to have been a flood. The question is...how are stories from so long ago, and so far apart so very similar?

I get that to some degree you' re playing devil's advocate here and i appreciate that.


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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
02 Apr 2019, 11:25
#202
02 Apr 2019, 11:25#202
If you look at Egyptian pyramid drawings long enough you can see Aliens and Gods. However, if you looked at a kinder garden kids drawings long enough you could also see Aliens and Gods.
As for Floods, and even ice caps - this has happened many times. However, how would anyone back then know that a flood covered the whole of the earth? There is certainly no scientific evidence this happened.If you watch enough of the discovery channel and you want to believe this, fiction becomes fact.
All the Abrahamic religions (Jews, Christians, Muslims) believe in the flood. However, they all have the same origin so this is no surprise.




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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
02 Apr 2019, 11:26
#203
02 Apr 2019, 11:26#203
So we have at least 2 confirmed Young Earth Creationists, Beeno and Cleancut. What a joke. The earth is only 6000 years old. The IQ of a 6 year old....
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Apr 2019, 11:32
#204
02 Apr 2019, 11:32#204
Plum, there are also very similar multiple stories from different parts of the world concerning a man who heard a voice in his head telling him to build a pile of wood, to lay his only son on that pile of wood and then murder him. The man did as he was told (making his son carry the wood), he tied his son up, placed him on the pile of wood and just before he stabbed the terrified boy to death with his knife, the voice in his ear said he was only joking and it was just a test to see if he was faithful.
Does the fact that the same story is told in different parts of the world mean it must have happened . . . or could it be that the Abrahamic religions and their multiple denominations and splinter groups all base their religion on the same Big Book of Fairytales? 
I think when you talk about "flood mythology" you should focus on the second word . . . "mythology".
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Apr 2019, 12:41
#205
02 Apr 2019, 12:41#205
"So we have at least 2 confirmed Young Earth Creationists, Beeno and Cleancut. What a joke. The earth is only 6000 years old. The IQ of a 6 year old...."
It's hard to tell with Klown because he's all over the place, saying one thing and then contradicting himself a few posts later.
Here is a selection of quotes from Klown, all on this very thread:
"Man and Dinosaur are separated by millions of years. "
". . . and yet the earth as we know it is only 6000 years old."
"This planet has been around for millions of years ... and through it's life span, it's seen a lot of different forms of life ... as is evident by what we dig up today."
"millions upon millions of years later ... specifically of the earth at that time ... a time of around 6000 years ago ... the time period that we find ourselves in now."
Like I said, he's all over the place. Who knows what he thinks . . . he certainly doesn't.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Apr 2019, 14:29
#206
02 Apr 2019, 14:29#206

Redneck ... I have noticed in previous discussions that you have a tendency of being deliberately obtuse, especially when you find yourself backed into a corner.

Let me give you an example ...


It's hard to tell with Klown because he's all over the place, saying one thing and then contradicting himself a few posts later.
Here is a selection of quotes from Klown, all on this very thread:
"Man and Dinosaur are separated by millions of years. "
". . . and yet the earth as we know it is only 6000 years old."
"This planet has been around for millions of years ... and through it's life span, it's seen a lot of different forms of life ... as is evident by what we dig up today."
"millions upon millions of years later ... specifically of the earth at that time ... a time of around 6000 years ago ... the time period that we find ourselves in now."
Like I said, he's all over the place. Who knows what he thinks . . . he certainly doesn't.

I know you're not stupid ... so why act that way?

None of the above is contradictory.

Now go read Genesis 1:1 ... again. You have everything arse about face.

Genesis 1:1  "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"

You will notice that "heavens" comes before "earth" ... do I honestly have to point that out to you? You conveniently turned it around to suit your silly little argument.

Chances are that BeanDip read the entire "Big Book of Fairy Tales" from cover to cover ... unlike you, who have taken a few passages here and there and twisted it to suit your anti god theory. 

Not everything in the Bible is in chronological order. You should have picked that up already ... but I guess that wouldn't suit your feeble argument.

As for the "light" ... as I said earlier ... it's not complicated at all. The universe and all that's in it came forth from that command. If you've heard others refer to it differently then they're as ignorant as you are.


 



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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Apr 2019, 14:29
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02 Apr 2019, 14:29#207

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Apr 2019, 14:29
#208
02 Apr 2019, 14:29#208

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Apr 2019, 14:29
#209
02 Apr 2019, 14:29#209

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Apr 2019, 14:36
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02 Apr 2019, 14:36#210

"The "clever" people tell us that it takes millions of years for something to evolve from one thing to another ... and yet the earth as we know it is only 6000 years old.

Well, I think "relatively well recorded history " can probably be stretched to 10 000 years, The millions of years before that have much more pieces of the puzzle missing than known.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Apr 2019, 14:54
#211
02 Apr 2019, 14:54#211

Draad ... like what? Give me an example of 10 000 year old recorded history.

Anything will do?



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Apr 2019, 15:12
#212
02 Apr 2019, 15:12#212

Apr 02, 2019, 07:22

"Plum, I'm not for one second suggesting that we won't keep on evolving and I'm sure our technology will keep on improving as well but we're a long way from travelling anywhere near the speed of light and it's more likely that we'll be extinct before we ever develop the capability of interstellar travel . 


The dinosaurs ruled the earth and they were wiped out. The same can happen to us . . . and it may not even be a mass extinction event like a meteor because we seem to be hell bent on accelerating our destruction as we pollute the air and water at an ever-increasing rate.
I suppose the risk of our planet dying is all the incentive we need to explore space further and find a new planet to pollute and destroy . . . so we'd better get cracking . . . or else we can knuckle down and clean up this one."


We know that, but surely one of the civilizations that has a couple of billion years head start on us, must have developed exponentially further than us and they could have meddled with our evolution....and could have been worshipped as gods. Unlikely with the vastness of space, but not impossible. Some sign around of their existence....if we can learn to "look" better ?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Apr 2019, 15:23
#213
02 Apr 2019, 15:23#213

Klown, the only way I can think that your statements "earth as we know it is only 6000 years old" and "this planet has been around for millions of years" do not contradict one another would be if you were thinking that the planet that you live on is not earth.

Is that what you believe, Klown? Are you posting from the planet Tralfamadore or something?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Apr 2019, 15:28
#214
02 Apr 2019, 15:28#214

Draad, stick to discussions with the people who share your view that a day is measured by the sun's rotation rather than the earth's and stop yapping for my attention. I don't have the time or the inclination to entertain that level of ignorance.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Apr 2019, 16:04
#215
02 Apr 2019, 16:04#215

 who share your view that a day is measured by the sun's rotation 

BS, and you know it. You misspoke and you know it...and I'm not yapping for your attention. Get your head out your own arse. Your petty little "I-gotcha-on-some-stupid-little-error" rants are  plain childish.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Apr 2019, 16:57
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02 Apr 2019, 16:57#216
Maybe this angle has been explored before on here, but there are many Flood stories in many cultures in the region. Including most famously the Epic of Gilgamesh. This inspired some attempts to verify the existence of a major flood event: 'There are two scientific theories in existence, one suggesting flooding around the area that is now the Black Sea and the other attributing devastating floods to a comet that struck the Earth. Let's first look at the more popular hypothesis: the flooding of the Black Sea, also known as Noah's Flood Hypothesis. In the late 1990s, Columbia University geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman proposed that a great flood in the Middle East resulted from rising water levels at the end of the last Ice Age about 7,000 years ago. At that time, the Black Sea was a freshwater lake and the lands around it were farmlands. When the European glaciers melted, the Mediterranean Sea overflowed with a force 200 times greater than that of Niagara Falls, converting the Black Sea from fresh to saltwater and flooding the area [source: National Geographic]. National Geographic Society explorer Robert Ballard, inspired by Ryan and Pitman's hypothesis, has discovered supporting physical evidence, including an underwater river valley and ancient shoreline as well as Stone Age structures and tools beneath the Black Sea. His team has also unearthed fossils of now-extinct freshwater species dating back some 7,460 to 15,500 years.'
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Apr 2019, 17:03
#217
02 Apr 2019, 17:03#217
Say Peeper have you worked out if the day is 1000 hours or a 1000 minutes yet? Or are you accepting the more conventional view that it's 24 hours? Wehe! But let me make a suggestion....if you want to calculate distance, time or speed.....you need two of the other variables. I must say though trying to calculate time with only speed showed ambition.......or inebriation.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Apr 2019, 17:26
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02 Apr 2019, 17:26#218
"You misspoke and you know it"
Un-buh-lievable!!!
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Apr 2019, 17:49
#219
02 Apr 2019, 17:49#219

No Redneck ... how is it possible not to understand something so simple?

Let me dumb it down a bit for you.

1. Planet is created in the year zero.

2. Life of a sort is placed on the planet.

3. All life on the planet is destroyed after a time ... by whatever means .. in this case, a flood (the flood of Lucifer) ... rendering the planet lifeless. Niks, nada, fokol life on earth.

4. 10 million years pass by. The planet remains under water ... (the deep) ... void of any life.

5. 15 million years on ... the planet is brought back to life ... it is not recreated ... it already exits. The water is pushed back ... dry ground is forced to the surface (land) ... night and day ... animal and plant life is returned to inhabit the land, the oceans and lakes, rivers etc ... man is made in His image ... and voila, we have a Redneck asking stupid questions ... pretending to be doff ... totally confused as his mates keep digging up remnants of the previous inhabitants.

6000 years later a theory is brought out to please the unbelievers ... Redneck jumps at the chance. He is now armed with apes, mutations, science, carbon dating and of course an obtuse nature ... the happy chap sets off to tell everyone ... exposing his ignorance.

Approximately 6000 years ago the earth as we know it was restored ... overhauled ... sprayed with a fresh coat of paint ... revamped ... made new ... approximately 2000 years later the flood of Noah took place, wiping out life ... approximately 2000 years after that, Christ was born ... the Christian believes that we are living in the last days ... that 2000 years have passed on since Christ's birth ... that the second coming of the Messiah is at hand.

We await 7 years of tribulation ... and a thousand years of Lucifer's imprisonment ... and then judgement falls.

Redneck and his unbelieving horde await nothing ... or maybe they'll be mutated into a moth ... or evolve into some new species of ape never seen before ... who the fuck knows.

   


 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Apr 2019, 19:09
#220
02 Apr 2019, 19:09#220
Posted by: Rooinek (7873 posts)

Apr 02, 2019, 17:26

"You misspoke and you know it"


Un-buh-lievable!!!
Rooi, as your post stands, there is nothing wrong with it. If you did not edit it, I apologize , then I was the one misreading. I thought you said the length of the day "is the speed of Earth rotating" and not "determined by the speed of the rotation of Earh." Huge difference and the same slip as Moz....but go ahead with the ridicule, no skin off my back.
PS, not the same slip, but a slip non the les. Wrong is wrong, there are no half wrongs.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Apr 2019, 20:34
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02 Apr 2019, 20:34#221
Draad, do shut your stupid trap. Your head is so far up Moffie's arse that you can't see anything else.
I didn't edit a single thing and the insinuation that I did is offensive. It was your masssster Moffie who was so incredibly stupid . . . so phenomenally ignorant . . . as to imply that his "supreme being" spun the sun like a top to determine the length of a day (instead of the earth as any Std 1 schoolchild would know) and it was you who rammed your head up his fat arse shrieking "Rooi falls in his own pit" just before your entire head disappeared. 
I really don't like suck-ups. Stop trying to engage me on these boards, I have nothing to say to a grovelling sycophant. Begone.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 Apr 2019, 20:38
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02 Apr 2019, 20:38#222
Klown, I have no idea what you're babbling on about but I wouldn't mind a hit of whatever it is you're smoking.
I'll probably regret asking this but what evidence - biblical, scientific or otherwise - do you have to explain how and why the earth was dormant for 15 million years before starting up again?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Apr 2019, 22:03
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02 Apr 2019, 22:03#223
You probably should have edited it Peeper, let me remind you of the statement in question: 'The length of a day - as most people - know - is the speed at which the earth spins on its axis, not the sun' I mean your botched meaning is botched....are you trying to say the an alternative under consideration is that the earth spins on it's axis as opposed to spinning on the sun? Weird stuff Peeper but let me help, the sun is a ball of gas burning at very high temps. No doubt you believe planets can land on the sun and spin....sadly not possible. But there is no doubt that you mean the length of the day is equal to the earth's speed, which sets up the question of whether it's a 1000 minute day or 1000 hour day. But on a little reflection, it must be a 1000 minute day.....you couldn't wait a 1000 hours for your first pop.......and the 1000 minute day gets you to the bottle 440 minutes earlier. Logic is a beautiful thing.
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sharkbokCaptain23,220 posts
02 Apr 2019, 23:36
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02 Apr 2019, 23:36#224
Clean-cut (aka the Lost Sheep) has produced a unique interpretation of the bible.
 God exterminated all of life on earth for 15 million years because of the sins of man. Now Lucifer is being blamed for the flood- even though it was life of a sort. (So not human, but just animal and plant life) - so how could this life sin? 
It is like a lizard committing a sin, or a plant committing a sin. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Apr 2019, 02:50
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03 Apr 2019, 02:50#225
CC I am unsure if you actually believe that bullshit or its just written tongue in cheek.
The scary thing though is that there is probably more than one person stupid enough to actually think its true
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Apr 2019, 06:08
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03 Apr 2019, 06:08#226

Rooi, stop trying to tell me what to do, stop mentioning me and stop being a total obnoxious arsehole  then I'll consider ignoring you.

"begone" LMAO!!! Practice what you preach Boet.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Apr 2019, 08:17
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03 Apr 2019, 08:17#227
". . . there is probably more than one person stupid enough to actually think its true "
That might be a bit of a stretch. I'm not sure even Baboon-ou is dumb enough to be swallowing this steaming load of bovine excrement.
The hilarious thing about Klown's spectacularly unique view on the world is that he's so surprised no-one else thinks the same as him or understands his contradictory gobbledygook.
". . . how is it possible not to understand something so simple?"
Wehe . . . Klown seems genuinely surprised that we don't all share this "10 million years on, 15 million years off, 6000 years on" view of earth's history.
LMAO!
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Apr 2019, 08:26
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03 Apr 2019, 08:26#228

Rooi

This is from Australia. It's the one with the most similarities to some points in Genesis. There are others that are less similar. Of course, much of it can be explained in pretty simple terms but the final three are quite interesting. 

It's not any type of conclusive proof of anything but it is interesting nonetheless.

  • The flood was sent to judge wickedness.
  • God sent the flood to drown all the people.
  • It began to rain.
  • All the land was covered.
  • A man and his wife in a boat with an animal.
  • A bird with a leaf in its mouth was the sign of dry land.
  • They landed on a mountain. All other people drowned.
  • There was a sacrifice of blood at the end of the flood.


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Apr 2019, 08:32
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03 Apr 2019, 08:32#229

Rooi

This from the Hindu scriptures. One could almost substitute parts of the full story for of either Noah's or the Summerians Epic.

Again, not proof of anything but very interesting.

"O kind-hearted man, you have care in your heart, listen now. Soon the world will be submerged by a great flood, and everything will perish. You must build strong ark, and take along rope on board. you must also take with you the Seven Sages, who have existed since the beginning of time, and seeds of all things and pair of each animal, when you are ready, I will come to you as Fish and I will have horns on my head. Do not forget my words, without me you cannot escape from the flood."

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
03 Apr 2019, 08:35
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03 Apr 2019, 08:35#230

My dear SharkShit ... you no doubt have an interest in this subject ... can't say I blame you ... I can't think of anything that fascinates me more.  I have given a lot of time to it.

The problem is that you don't even know the simple basics of the Bible. When the Christ was born ... when He died ... how He died ... why He died ... why we celebrate Him as Lord ... these simple things are beyond you ... and yet here you are, debating with us.

I am NOT referring to the flood of Noah, you Dimwitted retard ... and I'm not blaming Lucifer for that flood either. Can't you read? Things have happened on this planet long before we showed up. Dramatic things. Wars. Power struggles. Betrayal. Treason.  

I suppose you think that Lucifer and his rebellious subordinates (angels) were kicked out of Heaven during the time of Adam and Eve, right?

LOL!!!!!!!

Are you aware of the war that took place between God, Michael and Lucifer and the role Jesus Christ played in it?

Are you aware that Jesus Christ was with the Father long before He was born in Bethlehem? Long before the existence of the universe. That He was actually sent here on a mission ... and the opposition he faced from an age old enemy?

How is it possible that you know so little? Even an uninterested school kid would have picked up more in primary school than you have.

The time frame of 10 million years and 15 million years that I used was a simple example to dumb it down for your like minded idiot, Redneck.   

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaa!!! Wow!!!!!! You have got to be kidding me.

No, SharkShit ... the lizards and plant life were not wiped out because of their sin. How stupid are you? Ever heard of collateral damage? Look it up.

There is more to this than you think. Much more. Do yourself a favour ... go read the Bible ... cover to cover ... see what it says ... you may discover something of great value ... something that may just prepare you for what lies beyond the grave.


 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Apr 2019, 09:04
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03 Apr 2019, 09:04#231
This is my attempt at summarizing a timeline of Klown's world view:

Year 0 - ???

Magic Beardman creates planet Earth.
Magic Beardman places "life of a sort" on newly created planet.

Year ???All life that was placed on Earth is destroyed by Lucifer's Flood.

Year ??? + 10 million yearsAll of Earth is covered in water.
Year ??? + 15 million yearsLots of the water goes somewhere else and dry land forces it's way to the surface.Night and day starts.Animal and plant life is returned from somewhere else back to Earth.Redneck asks stupid questions.Redneck's mates dig up remains of previous inhabitants.
Year ??? + 15 006 000A theory is "brought out" that pleases unbelievers.A 6000 year old Redneck armed with apes, mutations, science, carbon dating and an obtuse nature sets off to demonstrate how stupid he is.
Year ??? + 15 008 000 All life on Earth destroyed by Noah's Flood except for Noah and his family and a breeding pair of every land animal.
Year ??? + 15 010 000Christ is born. The Christian believes we are living in the last days.
Year ??? + 15 012 000 (the present)The second coming of the Messiah is at hand.A 12 000 year old Redneck now has a horde that is not awaiting anything.
Year 2019 + 7Tribulation
Year 2019 + 1007Lucifer's imprisonment
Year 2126Judgment
There is still one very interesting gap that Klown needs to explain. What happened between Year ??? + 10 million years and Year ??? +15 million years? Why is there that distinction? 10 million years pass by with the earth under water and then after 15 million years have passed by the water goes somewhere else and dry land starts forcing it's way to the surface. What happened in between? 
Edit 1: Uh-oh . . . I posted that before I saw a lot of updates by Klown. Let me try and understand the new information and where it fits into the timeline and I'll edit accordingly.
Edit 2: Okay, sounds like all the interesting stuff like wars, power struggles, betrayals and treason happened in the 5 million year gap I referred to in Edit 1. This is better than Game of Thrones!
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Admit OneClub Pro389 posts
03 Apr 2019, 09:20
#232
03 Apr 2019, 09:20#232

I was a church going young man, then one day in Vietnam my faith was turned off like a light switch.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Apr 2019, 09:22
#233
03 Apr 2019, 09:22#233
You guys carry on discussing the planets and the Milky Way on this thread, I'm moving Klown's World View to a new thread here. I believe it deserves it's own thread.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Apr 2019, 10:16
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03 Apr 2019, 10:16#234

Don't run away now Rooi...

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Apr 2019, 10:21
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03 Apr 2019, 10:21#235

I'm still here to talk about the other topics on this thread like interstellar travel, flood mythology and how the length of a day is measured by how fast a supreme being spins the sun . . . but Klown's world view is particularly fascinating so I thought it deserved a new thread of its own.

Not trying to hijack your thread Plum, but that is a real gem that could be lost among everything else being discussed here.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Apr 2019, 15:24
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03 Apr 2019, 15:24#236
Don't worry Peeper.....the 1000 minute day and the earth spinning on the sun will follow you.
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