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PS Plum, can you track my IP? Where am I and how do you do it?

Lol Draad

And we know that BB is either WD or Denise. I'm leaning towards WD not difficult really. A quick Google search...there are guides.

Rooi, isn't there a bag of dicks somewhere you should be eating?

Why don't you answer Draad's question, ButtPlug?

Oh, that's right . . . we know why!

LMAO!

Why don't you tell us why, RooiNuts?

"Why don't you tell us why, RooiNuts?"

Well I suppose I could . . . but I'd just be repeating the same things I've already said.

Would you like some help understanding what I've already said further up the thread?

Here you go ButtPlug . . .

"ButtPlug doesn't know anything. He's just looking for attention.

Even if he's an admin (which he isn't) he wouldn't see machine names.

IP addresses are no longer very relevant due to things like mobile networks, VPNs, NAT, reverse proxies, dynamic IP allocation etc. They're pretty meaningless in today's world.

ButtPlug's use of theatrical language like "coward", "fake persona", "when I tell you who it is . . .", "surprised most of you haven't figured it out" etc. is typical attention-seeking social media pressure, not evidence or proof of anything.

Let's see if he can prove me wrong. ButtPlug's "big reveals" in the past have never amounted to anything."

Now be specific. Which sentence or which paragraph are you struggling with?

I'm here to help.

Oh and Draad's asking you if you can identify his IP. Don't keep him waiting.

I don't know how, but I'm sure you can track someone's IP if you can get them to click a link to somewhere where you can track them, but general posting on the forum without admin access would be difficult without being able to hack the site...AI doesn't want to tell me how to do it, so it's probably possible for the next level nerds.

ButtPlug seems to have all the answers you're looking for, Draad, he's just . . . ummm . . . not in the mood right now to give them.

I'm just curious...you're no IT slouch Rooi, what's possible if you know you're way around?...remember, BB conceded that he was in Sidney at the time, and not in NZ where he pretended to be...so there is that...

Good night Jim Bob amd Mary Ellen.

Draad, if you actually wanna know how, email me and I'll help you.

BB conceded that he was in Sidney at the time, and not in NZ where he pretended to be...so there is that...

Jy praat kak ... maar dats nothing new

shameonyou

Wtf. is WD ?

Jammer, rusty Draad ... BB's blackboy, not moi.

Draad, it doesn't matter if you know your way around IT or not, you won't pick up a machine name on a site like this . . . as ButtPlug is claiming.

He's bullshitting and he knows I know he's bullshitting.

Just ask yourself this, how many times has ButtPlug claimed he's ready to out a poster and how many times has he actually done it?

Rooi, are you spastic?

An IP tracker routes the traffic through a legitimate site. The tracker link is inserted into a legitimate link with a URL shortner. The link is then posted where the target could be socially engineered to click it or it is emailed to them. It's shows the rough location...depending on the targets connection type it can be more or less specific. It's shows you the browser type EG IOS and sometimes the device type EG Mac tablet, IPhone, timestamps, language used on the machine and a few other less important details.

Would like a tutorial on inserting RATs into docs? Cos that's way more useful.

After detaining Arias, ICE officers then asked Liam to knock on the door of his house to see if any family members were inside, “using him as bait” according to the school district. Liam’s mother was inside and did not open the door out of fear of also being apprehended.

“Four of our students have been apprehended and taken away by armed agents in masks with no identifying [badges],” said Zena Stenvik, the superintendent of Columbia Heights Public Schools. “It’s been unfortunately pretty common knowledge about not opening doors because [ICE agents] are forcing their way in.”

Stenvik said a ten-year-old girl was also detained by ICE alongside her mother on their way to school. A boy and a girl, both 17, were also apprehended. “The kids just want to come to school,” Stenvik said.

Department for Homeland Security officials said the father fled on foot when ICE officers approached him. “For the child’s safety, one of our ICE officers remained with the child while the other officers apprehended Conejo Arias,” a spokesman said.

“The family did everything they were supposed to in accordance with how the rules have been set out,” he said. “They did not come here illegally. They are not criminals.” He said there was no order of deportation against them and he believed the father and son had remained together in detention at a facility in Texas.

Federal officers spray a chemical agent at a woman in Minneapolis on Wednesday

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Stenvik said: “Our children are traumatised. The sense of safety in our community and around our schools is shaken. I can speak on behalf of all school staff when I say our hearts are shattered. After our fourth student was taken … I just thought someone has to hear the story. They’re taking children.”

• What is ICE? A history from 9/11 to the fatal shooting of an American

She said ICE officers had been circling schools and following buses.

“Our children should not be surrounded by masked agents brandishing guns in our neighbourhoods and our bus stops,” said Mary Granlund, the Columbia Heights school board chair. “Children should be at school with their classmates. We need a diplomatic solution out of this situation … we need your help because at the end of the day we have whistles and they have guns.”

Hours before Vance’s arrival, Greg Bovino, commander of Border Patrol, said at a news conference in Minneapolis that “our agents are being violently assaulted by agitators and anarchists”.

The administration has sought to quell dissent, describing the protesters as domestic terrorists and “agitators” and sanctioning the use of pepper spray against them.

President Trump’s approval ratings on the government’s mass deportations have plummeted in the weeks since Good’s death.

A New York Times-Siena Poll, conducted from January 12 to 17 and released on Thursday, showed him polling underwater on the issue of immigration, with nearly two thirds disapproving of how ICE was handling their job and 61 per cent saying ICE’s tactics had gone too far.

Meanwhile, the White House communications team appeared to post a digitally altered photo of a Minnesota activist arrested on Thursday, which showed her crying during an arrest by federal agents.

The digitally altered photograph was flagged on X with the caption: “Digitally altered image. See original arrest photo here”

THE WHITE HOUSE

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY

The image of Nekima Levy Armstrong was highly realistic, bearing no watermark or other indicator that the image had been doctored. The change was only apparent when compared to a different version of the same image posted by the Department of Homeland Security earlier in the day.

The White House post on X was followed with an alert that read: “Digitally altered image. See original arrest photo here.” It then linked to a report containing the original version which showed her composed and not in tears.

Armstrong was one of several demonstrators charged over involvement in disrupting a church service in St. Paul, Minnesota, on Sunday to protest a pastor’s apparent work as an ICE official.

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ButtPlug, this is what you said:

"You need to let me show you how the internet works Draad.

Device names and IPs are pretty conclusive."

Here's what I replied:

"Even if he's an admin (which he isn't) he wouldn't see machine names."

And then just above this we have you waffling on about IP trackers, tracker links, social engineering, browser types, inserting trojans . . . all sorts of deflections but not a single mention of device or machine name . . . which anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see is what I'm disputing.

I called bullshit on this whole "reveal" the minute I saw you claiming you could identify device or machine names. Of course, your prior record of making claims and failing to substantiate them also played a part in my skepticism.

I'm still calling bullshit. You're just ducking and diving.

Also, here's another selection of quotes from you:

"Guys, do you wanna know who Trad is?"

. . . and . . .

"When I tell you who it is, it'll all fall into place."

. . . and . . .

"Problem is, once I out him, he won't hang around."

Now to me, every one of those statements implies that you are going to tell us who you think posts as Trad at some point in time. Yes?

Since you promised this "big reveal", I count Draad, Dense, DumbAss, Moffie and me as posters effectively saying "Yes, we'd like to know. Go ahead".

That's 5 different posters confirming they'd like to know who Trad is since you made those comments.

You still haven't revealed.

Why is that, ButtPlug?

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Lol RooiBalls, you sound very interested.

Trad knows that I know who he is.

...and not simply because I'm saying so here.

He knows that he's on borrowed time.

He and his main account have continued to post, but that's only because not doing so would be suspicious.

You can stamp your tiny feet all you like, RooiNuts, but I'll keep to my own timeline and have my fun as I see fit.

You could always gobble down another bag of dicks in the meantime. After all, it's your calling and what you're best at.

"Lol RooiBalls, you sound very interested."

Not really as interested as you seem to think, ButtPlug, remember, I know you're bullshitting.

I also know exactly who you will accuse . . . and I know that you're wrong. Dense doesn't post as Trad.

But don't think that my laughter at your silly little games is showing interest. I'm just enjoying seeing you make a complete dick of yourself . . . again!

You have nothing. As I said right up front, you're just trying to get attention while pretending to be some kind of tech-whiz.

As ever, go ahead and prove me wrong . . . when your timeline allows of course.

LMAO!

I'm loving the non-interested essays you are writing though.

How am I pretending to be a tech whizz when I literally told Draad the thing you are using as the basis for my supposed tech wiz fakery is easily Googleable and not difficult at all...?

"Hey Draad, I'm a tech wiz because this thing I can do is both very easy and there a bunch of guides on line on how to do it...including YouTube videos."

Always rushing out the gates, flapping about, and then embarrassing yourself.

"Draad, it doesn't matter if you know your way around IT or not, you won't pick up a machine name on a site like this . . . as ButtPlug is claiming."

Also, how are you a software guy and making a statement like that. Stop flapping about, knucklehead.

Well Plum if there is a risk of one of our posters leaving, perhaps it’s best just to leave Trad as Trad. I’ve grown used to my daily dose of ‘liberals’ insights.

DHS detain a toddler and her father on Thursday and fly them to Texas before returning child on judge’s order

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And ICE kill another person with no apparent justification.

ICE is doing more damage to Trump’s image than any opponent ever could. Every day it gets worse.

If this keeps going, then together with his Venezuela and Greenland stuff ups, the invasion talk and all the chaos around it, they will have single handedly sunk any real chance he has of staying president.

And with that, the chances of impeachment are creeping higher by the day.

"And ICE kill another person with no apparent justification."

BS

"And with that, the chances of impeachment are creeping higher by the day."

For what?...sure, the Dems will try and conjuring up some snot, but they'll have to take back the house first...and a lot can happen till then..fuel prices keeps on dropping, the economy is spinning and the price of cheddar is in check again..what's the alternative...Newscum?...lol

BS

Look at what your defending, then look in the mirror.

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This from the New Testament in the Woke bible, the Guardian:

Thirty-two people died in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) custody in 2025 – making it the agency’s deadliest year in more than two decades, as the Trump administration moved to detain a record number of people.

Some of those who died in detention had arrived in the US recently, seeking asylum. Others had arrived years ago, some as young children. Some had been apprehended on criminal charges or had served time for convictions; others had been picked up in the administration’s indiscriminate ICE raids.

They died of seizure and heart failure, stroke, respiratory failure, tuberculosis or suicide. Some died at ICE detention centers and field offices, others after they had been transferred to hospitals, but were still under ICE custody. In some cases, their families and lawyers have alleged, they died of neglect, after repeatedly trying and failing to get medical care.

The number of deaths, 32, matched the previous record, set in 2004. These deaths occurred as the Trump administration ramped up its immigration operations, detaining a record number of people in December. The agency was holding 68,440 people in detention in mid-December; nearly 75% of them had no criminal convictions. December was also the deadliest month in ICE custody – seven people died.

……

Now this from AI:

Based on data from the

World Health Organization (WHO) and Council of Europe, the mortality rate in European prisons is approximately 424.9 deaths per 100,000 inmates per year.

Using this average rate, for a population of 68,000 people in European jails, the expected annual death rate would be:

1. Total Expected Deaths: Roughly 289 per year (68,000

……

So in a European jail if the population was 68000, we would expect 289 deaths from various causes.

But using the Guardian’s own numbers the 68000 held by ICE resulted in only 32 deaths. If you believe these numbers and I rarely believe anything in the Guardian you are 9 times safer being detained by ICE than being looked after by the little men in suits.

I’m guessing there is a high turnover of ICE prisoners but the exposure would still be the same. I’m guessing there may be some glitch somewhere, but I doubt it would be enough to reverse the findings.

Obviously the ICE detainee population ramped during 2025, so I asked Chat to find an average population and compare against young adults in US jails. ICE death rates are still substantially better.

But you will read dishonest rags like the Guardian fulminating about the deaths in detention, never bothering to confirm they are statistically high…they end up being statistically low.

3) Final comparison

4) Bottom line

Using a realistic average daily ICE population of 50k–60k:

1. ICE’s observed mortality rate in 2025 ? 53–64 deaths per 100,000 detainee-years
2. A demographically comparable U.S. population would “expect” roughly 75–140 deaths per year
3. U.S. jails would “expect” roughly 85–100 deaths per year

? Conclusion

On a straight person-years basis, 32 deaths is substantially below what you would expect for a detained population of that size and age structure.

ICE detainee mortality in 2025 appears to be ~40–70% lower than general young-adult U.S. mortality and ~35–50% lower than U.S. jail mortality.

Perhaps the Guardian should….er….look in the mirror.

il2g

It doesn't look like Trump is about reason or law, he’s about force and dominance. That’s why the ICE stuff keeps getting uglier.

Human lives become collateral damage in his power trip and supporters just wave it away because it doesn’t touch them personally.

Comparing ICE deaths to prison stats misses the point.These people are not supposed to be punished at all. Many have no criminal record.

The standard isn’t “fewer deaths than jail”, it’s why are people dying in civil detention in the first place. And what good is ICE actually doing here?

Billions spent, communities terrorised, citizens getting caught up or killed, and for what? To protect a rich old man who’s set for life and doesn’t care about the fallout? Taxpayers pay the bill while Trump can do whatever he wants.

The word "Newscum" gets thrown around like it's a big joke, but you’re already backing something far worse. An authoritarian who threatens countries, talks about taking land, and treats human lives as expendable. That’s not strength, that’s decay.

So what’s the endgame here? More force, more deaths, more excuses? Because none of this is making life better for ordinary Americans or the rest of the world. Pretending otherwise just sounds disturbing at this point.

And if you compared the ICE rate to the young US population, not in jail, the death rate is 1/3 of that rate. I’m sure in part because deaths from traffic accidents, other accidents and violence etc are eliminated. The rate to compare is the general jail rate…and the same picture emerges.

The reason this is relevant is because the article I quoted from the Guardian and many other articles implies that ICE is cavalier about the welfare of detained people. The numbers say the opposite.

The end game is the country has secure borders and the US isn’t an open door for South America, which it was under Biden. Which doesn’t mean there won’t be immigration, including from South American countries. No country has ever been as successful as the US in welcoming and integrating immigrants. But the process has to have rules.

Yo VIP, let's kick it!.

Ice, Ice, baby. Ice, Ice, baby.

Stop, collaborate and listen. Anything less than the SS is a felony.

Video evidence reviewed by Guardian shows Alex Pretti, killed by agents in Minneapolis, held a phone, not a gun

Anger returns with a huge whiff of holier than thouism.

Better than the constant whiff of a sewer you give off.