gun that had 1 bullet, while he was unarmed. What would you do?
Bearing in mind over 10 million people have been forced out of Ukraine into refugee status, and Putin is going to continue attacking countries.
Run like hell….your 1 bullet is no match for the machine guns his guards would have.
Ja true, Can't actually imagine that Putin will be without his guards ( most probably with AK 47 that will RIP you in pieces) and I also think that he would be armed himself with a Pistol or Something....so ja Running won't help either....pretty much fucked just with 1 bullet....Carma is a bitch though, what you personally put out there in the world, especially when innocent people loses there lives ( so happy that atleast some people here on Ruckers find life precious, excluding our Death Squad on here off course) will come back to you triple, when you least expect and take your head off Clean !!
Murder is murder, doesn't matter who the victim is...same applies to Hitler...if you could travel back in time...?
When you read the articles which describe in a lot of detail exactly what Putin has in place for his own personal security.....only then do you realize just how difficult it would be to take him out....
The security, especially all the snipers, that he has on his daily routes is actually quite ridiculous, but then again, I don't blame him for being that paranoid....
"Murder is murder, doesn't matter who the victim is...same applies to Hitler...if you could travel back in time...?"
Yes, so would you take out Hitler as a baby if you had the opportunity to...... knowing what he would do to millions of people
Then we have Nancy Pelosi blaming the current US inflation on the Iraq war........
SO it would have been OK to murder Hitler as a baby?
The Kangaroo court sits in judgement once again with no evidence only hearsay and media reporting, with The Lord of Flies as judge and his 2 assessors, Beezlebub and Beezlebum.
Personally I wouldn't, a baby is innocent no matter how you look at it.
If I lost my entire family because of such a man I still don't think I could do such a thing. Thankfully I would never be in a position to have to make such a decision.
How anyone can inflict pain or death on a child is just so far beyond my understanding
Draad, always in motion the future is. So, no - killing a baby is not justified.
This story is created within the parameters of reality, so going back in time is not being considered. We are talking about some geriatric that only has a few years left in his life, and is threatening the world with nuclear bombs. If Satan2 the Nuke carrier is ready in 6 months, it might be time for the West to enter war soon.
"SO it would have been OK to murder Hitler as a baby?"
If I knew that this baby, and only this particular baby, would without any shadow of a doubt, as an adult, personally go on to organize and authorize the slaughtering of up to 11 million innocent people.... then it is not even up for debate with me...
I am not saying I could do it with my own hands..... but would I want that baby dead to prevent the millions of lives........ absolutely... no question at all
You see, that's a big problem. It should always be wrong to murder someone...especially a baby. The moment we start justifying something, we're on the wrong track...there is no such thing as"the greater good". There has to be another way. We have to find a better way. There is no such thing as "the lesser of two evils". If we start going down that route, we've already lost.
If you kill someone in self-defence, is that considered murder? (by your standards).
One life to save millions makes sense. You can't treat your arch-enemy the same as your friend because they don't. It would be woke to not be tough when you have to.
Ok Db.... so you have a single switch in your hand.
Activating that switch will end the life of the baby Hitler lying on the table in front of you.....
If you do not activate that switch.... 11 million people will not only be killed, they will first be starved, then tortured and raped and slaughtered in front of their family members.....
There is a prob lem here...
There is also no better option in front of you here
There is certainly a greater good here....
There is most definitely a lesser of two evils here...
There is no better way....
The moment you don't justify the killing of this baby, you are then justifying the killing of 11 million people, by the hand of that baby when it grows up....
You can't have the best of both worlds here Db..... you have a choice to make... so make it
Killing someone is self defense and totally justified but the murder of a baby is just one step to far for me.
A baby or a child is innocent no matter what they could possibly do in the future.
Take Hitler, circumstances led him down that path but when he was a baby he was as innocent as any of us and to murder a baby makes us no better than him at the hight of his power.
I just cannot see any circumstances that I could justify killing a baby
I know that this is something that is beyond my capabilities
Would I stop someone that could do such a thing, I am not so sure but I know I could not live with myself if I allowed such a thing.
Go back 30 years I probably could but I am a different man from those days.
I have to believe that everyone has a chance to live a good life, unfortunately it is all part of the human nature, there will always be some who can exceed what I believe is a moral position and unfortunately that will always be the case
"Would I stop someone that could do such a thing, I am not so sure but I know I could not live with myself if I allowed such a thing"
Very difficult choice indeed sader
I am in no means saying it would be an easy choice or decision..... but if you knew for 200% fact that the baby currently lying in front of you..... would be solely and entirely responsible for the deaths of 11 million people..... what would affect you more.... not killing that baby..... or allowing the killing of the 11 million people to go ahead years later
I cannot say what I would do but 1 thing I could never condone is the murder of a child.
I don't know about anyone else but it is simply beyond my comprehension how anyone could hurt a child let alone baby.
Unfortunately I seem to be in the minority in this world. Mankind will destroy itself before it can reach a level of awareness and I am sad to say too many people on this site reinforce my belief in this. The likes of beenshit, seb and Mike are the people that will destroy mankind and they seem happy in the fact that is mankind's destiny.
All because some ancient load of bullshit promises them an afterlife where they get a hard on that everyone else will live a life of eternal damnation while they live a life of groveling at someone's feet. selfish pricks.
All I can hope is cunts like this become the minority and my kids and grandkids can live a life of peace and can live a life of freedom like I have
"Killing someone is self defense and totally justified but the murder of a baby is just one step to far for me.
A baby or a child is innocent no matter what they could possibly do in the future.
Take Hitler, circumstances led him down that path but when he was a baby he was as innocent as any of us and to murder a baby makes us no better than him at the hight of his power.
I just cannot see any circumstances that I could justify killing a baby
I know that this is something that is beyond my capabilities "
This is the answer I was looking for...didn't think you will be the one giving it...glad it's you though. We must stop to accept the choices presented as the only options.
Putin is the leader of the free world. I'd execute all of the fucks that the lefties allow to cause all of these wars and troubles. More like go back to 2014 and kill Barry Soetoro and Jotato for putting criminals in office in Ukraine and using it to start this war. That's the facts. Mass murder the lefty fucks who support the ruling class, it's that support that keeps it going.
Putin is a murderous cunt that doesn't give a shit about human life, the fact you support him shows you as as an immoral prick just like him.
FFS I can't believe there are cunts that support the mass murder of innocent people. You are a cunt and the sooner you and your ilk are a t hing of the past the better
Youre the cunt. I bet you cant wait for the day the alphabet people finally bring pedophilia into the mix so you can have you little boy toy. I bet that's what this is really about.
FFS I can't believe there are cunts that support the mass murder of innocent people
Huh? Wakeup you dopey ass licker. The very reason there is a war in Ukraine is because of NATO. That's the whole fucking game. YOU support this war, YOU support the use of a country as a pawn for NATO, YOU support murderous criminals, YOU support all of this shit. Yanukovych and Putin were on friendly terms and building relations but NATO fucked it up. YOU are part of the problem and people like YOU make the world a worse place. People like YOU are the reason the west is totally fucked. YOU have no morals, YOU are a rock monkey who hates truth and hates morality. Morals aren't your topic to bring up rock monkey. Now go fuck off back to your Pride strip club sexualizing children.
"This is the answer I was looking for"
Ok, so, just to have more clarity on your decision..... you would save the one baby over the 11 million people.....?
You watched the Amber Heard trial? Say no more . . . refer to what I was saying earlier about being lifeless enough to want to go back a century.
""This is the answer I was looking for"
Ok, so, just to have more clarity on your decision..... you would save the one baby over the 11 million people.....?"
There will never be such a choice...killing a baby for whatever reason is wrong ...and evil...so I won't even entertain the hypothetical in such regard.
PS, I know it's a copout, there are people who need to make similar choices in life, but I'm glad I never had to and I pray I never will...but to let a million perish to safe one is also very wrong.
It is a copout..... but I do understand your hesitancy with not wanting to provide a clear or definite answer...
I am not interested in what would happen if Hitler did not live, and who would have lived or died if Hitler lived or not....... that was never my question.
Mine is a basic moral question.... requesting a personal decision, based on a hypothetical situation.....
Would I want that baby dead, IF that baby was solely responsible for the slaughter of millions of totally innocent people, when becoming an adult.... and to make it even more clear, let's say that if that baby had not made it to adulthood, then most of those millions of people would have definitely lived or led a normal life .....
For the record, my answer is a resounding and definite yes, I would want that baby dead.
I cannot understand how a medical person trained to save lives and has sworn the "Oath" to preserve life can stoop so low as to terminate an innocent infant or be involved in the process.
How did we as humans get so low where are our morals and values?
Sure appears that both those values don't exist in our present culture.
Just illustrates that some humans are the lowest form of life on earth with no morals and willing to "Murder" innocent babies for what......MONEY!
Sad.