If you met Putin with a

My guess is Peeper is everything he accuses others of…..fat, bald and old.

Why don't they show this ???????

https://youtu.be/hIuVZ_22-nU

"Yes I did Rooiarse and any innocent life is worth saving"

I fully agree

There are a lot of innocent lives amongst those millions of people who are going to die.....

Why don't they show this ???????

https://youtu.be/hIuVZ_22-nU

Pissmint: "because their lives now are empty and without meaning and they have nothing to lose, "

"". . . there are people who need to make similar choices in life . . ."

"". . . there are people who need to make similar choices in life . . ."

"No Dom Drol...having to choose the lesser of two evils"

Just so we are clear Db, are you then saying that there is no difference at all, and no "lesser of two evils:", between t he possible quick sudden death of one solitary baby..... and the slaughter and torture of 11 million innocent people?

"Just so we are clear Db, are you then saying that there is no difference at all, and no "lesser of two evils:", between the possible quick sudden death of one solitary baby..... and the slaughter and torture of 11 million innocent people?"

Of coarse there is...it's just that I refuse to entertain this hypothetical choice, because I know for a fact that I would never have to make that call .

"Wehe . . . if the Squeaky Toy is consistent, he'll tell DumbAss to pull his thick skull out of his arse."

Ou Rudhole, DA has to use up a lot more credits before he'll deserve such crudeness from me...it took me years to accept what you are and to start treating you accordingly.

"Of coarse there is...it's just that I refuse to entertain this hypothetical choice, because I know for a fact that I would never have to make that call"

Ok, but you posted this

"SO it would have been OK to murder Hitler as a baby?"

And this

"It should always be wrong to murder someone...especially a baby. The moment we start justifying something, we're on the wrong track...there is no such thing as "the greater good"

So, I can only assume then, from your multiple replies above, that if you were ever pushed to make a horrible decision like this... the result would be

01 = Survivor

11 000 000 = Killed

Anyone have any idea what ButtPlug is babbling about?

DA...please give me just 1 real life example of a scenario where murdering one baby will save a 1000 people, never mind 11M....and where it will be morally justifiable to do so...just 1 example...and we wonder how human sacrifice was a thing in not so distant history?

Some prophetic Gibberish from ButtPlug... 

"But consequentialism requires the ability to look at the macro picture and place less value on individualism…and yourself."

Doesn't matter how slowly I read that, it still sounds like someone using big words to say very little and with no relevance to the topic being discussed.

But Squeaky Toy, you told us on this very thread that you knew of people who had to make choices similar to that of killing a baby to save millions of lives. 

Were you lying?

I don't lie...choosing who to save and who to let die...or generals having to make the choice of ordering soldiers on a suicide mission to save many more. Some people have to make difficult choices...and some people make it legal and actually facilitate aborting babies in the last trimester, but they call them foetuses to make them feel better about enabling child sacrifice...run along now Red Dwarf.

"DA...please give me just 1 real life example of a scenario where murdering one baby will save a 1000 people"

Db....you made it very clear with your responses on here, that murdering Hitler, was not an option, as it was not a greater good....

You then asked me a direct question ...."SO it would have been OK to murder Hitler as a baby?"

I then replied to your question with what I would do, knowing full well that it might not sit well or upset a few people here.... but that's just me.... it is what it is, I would most definitely do it....

So, having said that..... since I answered your question on this specific issue, why not answer mine instead of skirting around it

Let me add.... by saying that given that this issue is obviously a hypothetical situation, I am still not worried what people may think of me, by what decision I would make here, because we all know that I would never have to do it anyway.... so having said that, why so much run around from you, without providing a clear answer to the same hypothetical scen ario....I don't really understand why it is that difficult.... you either would kill Hitler as a baby or you wouldn't.... simple

"Db....you made it very clear with your responses on here, that murdering Hitler, was not an option, as it was not a greater good...."

It is a hypothetical option, but it's not the only option...one baby's life instead of 11M lives is a no-brainer, but it's not a real life option. You are basically asking if baby murder will be OK in an impossible scenario...it's like trying to divide by zero...aborting a baby to save the mother is acceptable to some, but most parents will sacrifice their lives for their children...we should always strive for a better option.

The usual wishy-washy fence-sitting non-commital platitudes from the Squeaky Toy. Scared to have any opinion in case it upsets one of the many people he shamelessly sucks up to.

LMAO!

"we should always strive for a better option"

Another copout.....

Given it is such a ridiculously far fetched hypothetical situation.... I am baffled by the non-committal to answer a question like this....

Anyone have any idea what ButtPlug is babbling about?

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""we should always strive for a better option"

Another copout.....

Given it is such a ridiculously far fetched hypothetical situation.... I am baffled by the non-committal to answer a question like this...."

No it's not... I'm asking you to give me a real life scenario where one might have to choose between murdering a baby and saving lots of people at the same time...as the only or best option...you won't be able to that because time travel doesn't exist and never will...I have already conceded that the lives of many are more important than that of a single baby...you tell me what good it does speculating under which circumstances it might somehow be OK to murder a baby...or any child for that matter...I struggle to see why you can't see this...give me a plausible scenario and I'll answer you.

"The usual wishy-washy fence-sitting non-commital "sic" platitudes from the Squeaky Toy. Scared to have any opinion in case it upsets one of the many people he shamelessly sucks up to.

LMAO!"

Aag fooitog, are you a bit slow today? Age catching up to you? Or are you just dense when it comes to certain moral choices?

If a person have to protect yourself in self defense, it would be ok ....if we could get to " Adolf " as a baby, knowing very well how he would grow up and what he would become,  I would remove him from that Toxic atmosphere and let him grow up in a Loving Family and teach him the value of life....remember as a Baby you are a clean slate, and the way you grow up, what you experience is what you become...as baby to teen years is your foundation....so my guess is, what we would have had is :

 " Adolf " the carpenter, pianist or Doctor etc. And not " Adolf " Hitler the Nazi...the same counts for Vladimir Putin....my opinion Though.

That's not an option M...the only option is killing the baby or 11M die, never mind how nonsensical...

"most of the time we do have a choice and every scenario can have a different outcome if we choose that alternative path"

Indeed...

Kill baby Hitler to save people? Here's a fucking idea... don't expose Hitler to darwin and shitty humanism. That's what made him what he was. That's what made the arsehole libies we have today destroying everything in sight. Surprise surprise the only solution the lefty can think of is murder,  but uses one of his own to defend the idea. Fucking idiot! 

This topic has about the same reality as what is in some posters minds.

Ja sure seb...and let me guess, your version of reality is the best Right? Get over yourself already.