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Low energy jeb bush endorses cruz but the Donald marches on to GOP nomination

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Mar 2016, 09:40
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24 Mar 2016, 09:40#1

After spending much of Tuesday on television—where he bemoaned the state of Europe (Brussels, in particular), called for the legalization of torture, and pledged to eliminate the visa-waiver program that allows residents of certain foreign countries to visit the United States without going through a lengthy application process—come evening, Donald Trump switched media platforms.

As he waited for results to come in from the G.O.P. primary in Arizona and the caucuses in Utah, the Republican front-runner took to Twitter. “Lyin’ Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a G.Q. shoot in his ad,”he complained shortly before ten o’clock Eastern time. “Be careful, Lyin’ Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!” Evidently, the Donald was a bit bored. With people still lining up to vote in Arizona, where the turnout was much larger than expected (a recognizable trait in states where Trump does well), and in Utah, there wasn’t any news to digest. What better way to fill the time than to pick a fight on social media? It worked. “Pic of your wife not from us,” Cruz responded about half an hour later. “Donald, if you try to attack Heidi, you’re more of a coward than I thought. #classless”

Rather than firing back, Trump turned his attention to Hillary Clinton. “Incompetent Hillary, despite the horrible attack in Brussels today, wants borders to be weak and open-and let the Muslims flow in. No way!” he wrote. For some reason, Clinton didn’t respond (What could the hatter say. She is toast). Perhaps it was because she was busy campaigning in Washington State. Or maybe it was because her Twitter account appears to be run by a messaging bot, which lacks the childishness and quick fuse that online wars demand.

In any case, Trump soon had something more substantive to occupy his mind. Fox News announced that he had won in Arizona, a winner-take-all state, which meant that he had picked up the largest prize of the night: another fifty-eight delegates in his quest to reach the magic number of twelve hundred and thirty-seven. Much bigger win than anticipated in Arizona,” he tweeted at 11:43 P.M. “Thank you, I will never forget!” A bit later, he added, “Hopefully the Republican Party can come together and have a big WIN in November, paving the way for many great Supreme Court Justices!”

At least for now, there is little sign of unity. Early Wednesday morning, Jeb Bush released a statement endorsing Cruz, who had ended up winning more than fifty per cent of the vote in Utah, thus picking up all forty delegates in that state. Bush called the Texas senator “a consistent, principled conservative who has demonstrated the ability to appeal to voters and win primary contests,” and said, “For the sake of our party and country, we must move to overcome the divisiveness and vulgarity Donald Trump has brought into the political arena, or we will certainly lose our chance to defeat the Democratic nominee and reverse President Obama’s failed policies.”

The word “vulgarity,” which echoed Spy magazine’s nineteen-eighties description of Trump as a “short-fingered vulgarian,” reeked of upper-class disdain and personal hurt. A year ago, Bush had reason to believe that he would be the Republican Party nominee for President. Today, thanks partly to Trump’s cruel jibes, he is facing a return to the private sector. (Given his low energy he should retire!)

In some Republican circles, the sight of Bush, a mainstream conservative, endorsing the ultra-conservative Cruz will be hailed as an important moment, and possibly even a turning point. Finally, it will be argued, the Party is uniting to defeat Trump. Indeed, Karl Rove, one of the orchestrators of the Never Trump movement, indicated as much on Fox News, after word of Trump’s big victory in Arizona came in. “Let’s not kid ourselves, we have got a lot of contests to go here,” he said.

It’s true that, on the Republican side, seventeen states have yet to vote. But, despite Bush’s intervention, the real takeaway from the past twenty-four hours is that Trump is still marching toward the nomination. In Arizona, his assaults on illegal immigrants apparently proved very popular, and he received forty-seven per cent of the vote, defeating Cruz, whose home state is next door, by twenty-two percentage points. The victory came, too, in a state that has long been a bastion of Sun Belt conservatism, and where the primary was closed—only registered Republicans could vote—depriving Trump of his usual haul of independent voters.

Trump did lose heavily in Utah, picking up less than fifteen per cent of the vote, but there were special factors at play there. If the historic record is any indication, roughly three out of four voters who attended the G.O.P. caucuses there were Mormons. It’s clear that Trump’s antics, crude language, and, yes, vulgarity have alienated many members of the church. In Idaho and Wyoming, too, he did badly in counties with high concentrations of Mormon residents (Mormons are very gullible folks!). In the past week, both Mitt Romney, a prominent Mormon, and Gary Herbert, the popular governor of Utah, said that they were voting for Cruz, which probably also hurt Trump. (My colleague Ryan Lizza has more on Romney and the Mormon vote.)

While neither Arizona nor Utah can be classified as typical states, demographically speaking, the Republican electorate in Arizona is the more representative of the country as a whole. And, even after Cruz’s big victory in Utah, Trump won fifty-nine per cent of the delegates that were up for grabs on Tuesday. Given that, from here on in, he needs about fifty-seven per cent to win a majority of elected delegates, he hit his target.

Going forward, the electoral map favors Trump, and he has at least two more important advantages. With John Kasich, who picked up seventeen per cent of the vote in Utah and ten per cent in Arizona, still competing, the opposition to Trump is still split. It will remain so until the next G.O.P. primary, in Wisconsin, on April 5th. Kasich will be campaigning strongly in the Badger State, and if he does well there he will stay in the race. On Wednesday, his campaign published a blog post citing a new poll from Quinnipiac University, which shows him beating Hillary Clinton by forty-seven per cent to thirty-nine per cent in a head-to-head contest. That’s better than either Trump or Cruz did in the survey. “As we enter April, John Kasich and Donald Trump will be the main competitors for delegates,” the post argued. “John Kasich will play the primary role of blocking Donald Trump from reaching a majority of delegates.”(

The second factor that helps Trump is the revival of fears of terrorism. When, in the wake of the San Bernardino shootings, he called for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country, the other Republican candidates and the media criticized him heavily, and for good reason (Good reason bwahahahahahahahahaha). Strictly in political terms, though, Trump’s controversial proposal proved to be a boon for him. According to exit polls carried out on March 15th, when Trump won in Florida, Illinois, Missouri, and North Carolina, about two-thirds of Republican voters agreed with him on the issue. After Tuesday’s attacks in Brussels, that proportion has probably risen.

Speaking on Fox News on Tuesday, Michael Chertoff, who was the Secretary of Homeland Security in the George W. Bush Administration, described Trump’s ideas about preventing terrorism as “preposterous,” adding, “The idea that you can identify people who are a risk based upon their religion or the way they look is completely fallacious. It’s like going after cancer with a meat ax instead of a scalpel.”

It would be difficult to find anyone in the security field to contradict Chertoff, but his words, much like Jeb Bush’s, are unlikely to have much impact. Demagoguery and fanning prejudices have taken Trump this far. It looks like they will take him further yet.

The electorate are fools and these chumps are right. They are in fact blooming lunatics who should be in a mental asylum keeping rooitwit company!

I certainly wouldn't bet on Trump not winning the necessary delegates. He will get the GOP nomination and win the Presidency. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2016, 09:57
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24 Mar 2016, 09:57#2
 This could be the kiss of death for Cruz - he does not need endorsement by the establishment crowd.   He can beat Trump without the help of the Establishment if he wins in California and put up a good show in New York and Pennsylvania - so that is where the future of the campaign will be the determined.  I can see Kasich dropping out soon - as he is the last establishment figure remaining in the race. 
    
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Mar 2016, 13:21
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24 Mar 2016, 13:21#3
 Ou maaaike Cruz has had his best shot which was in the South and lost to T rump quite badly. From now on its down hill.Trump is at 65 % in NY and way ahead of cruz. 

The guy is toast. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Mar 2016, 13:26
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24 Mar 2016, 13:26#4
 Ou maaaikie ere are some projections by Politico. I think they are not taking into account momentum. A trump starts winning in even greater numbers momentum builds. Trump thinks he will make it quite easily and he should make it I believe.
DATE CONTEST AVAILABLE PROJECTED FOR TRUMP 22-Mar Arizona 58 58   Utah 40 4   American Samoa 9 2 05-Apr Wisconsin 42 25 09-Apr Colorado 34 7 16-Apr Wyoming 14 1 19-Apr New York 95 71 26-Apr Maryland 38 31   Connecticut 28 19   Rhode Island 19 10   Pennsylvania 17 16   Delaware 16 15 03-May Indiana 57 37 10-May Nebraska 36 1   West Virginia 34 33 17-May Oregon 28 12 24-May Washington 44 17 07-Jun California 172 93   New Jersey 51 51   South Dakota 29 0   Montana 27 0   New Mexico 24 10     New Trump delegates 513     Delegates to date 695     Total 1,208
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Mar 2016, 13:32
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24 Mar 2016, 13:32#5
 Brussels will pump up these numbers. Any terror attacks in USA and Trump will win with a big margin etc etc.Polls indicate the vast majority of Republicans want the guy with the most delegates to get the nomination.Cuz will do worse going forward.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Mar 2016, 13:35
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24 Mar 2016, 13:35#6
 As one polling website put it:Cruz’s ideal path would rely heavily on evangelical voters in the Deep South (who I think Trump edged the votes) , conservative sections of the Midwest, and Texas. Many of these areas vote earlier in the calendar.  Crusz has had his best shot.Endorsement from Jeb will move some of his voters over to Trump. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2016, 11:42
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25 Mar 2016, 11:42#7
 One of your first projections is wrong.   Trump will not get any delegates from Utah.  Then the rest really over-optimistic forecast.   71 out of 95 from New York - 31 out of 38 in Maryland - 19 out of 28 in Connecticut - 10 out of 19 in Rhode Island - 15 out of 16 in Delaware - are just a few cases.
Please note that Connecticut, Rhode Island and Delaware are part of New England states where Trump was badly beaten in all elections/caucuses thus far.  
You are also day dreaming about Wisconsin and Maryland.
My own calculation is that Trump will collect a maximum of 450 further delegates not the 513 you are dreaming about.  That will leave him with a shortfall of 100+ delegates. He can avoid the problem by making overtures to Cruz and offer him the Vice-Presidency.   If the rest gang up on him in the second round of voting he is a dead duck in the second round of voting at the convention.            
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2016, 12:02
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25 Mar 2016, 12:02#8
 We all know about the Utah result.
Ou maaaikie these poll results were before Brussels.  There will be more terror attacks before the convention and agin this will boost Trump as he is seen as the strongest on the issue.
There will be also republicans who can offer Trump a block of delgates for the VC position. He really wont need much as he will either get the majority or be very close.
Further he will hammer hillary clink - if she is not in jail! Many of bernies disallusioned democrats will vote trump. Trump simply has too much ammunition once he gets started on wee hillary.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Mar 2016, 18:04
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25 Mar 2016, 18:04#9
 Which other Republicans will deliver the votes for him to get over the line?  Definitely not the establishment candidates - who ducked out already.  And the others are all nonentities.   There has already been discussions between Cruz and other candidates who departed from the scene about a united front against Trump and the only one that can stop that from being effective is an alliance between Trump and Cruz. 
   
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2016, 19:37
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25 Mar 2016, 19:37#10
 There are guys like Sessions a prominent GOP Senator who has a following. believe it Trump will win this. Cruz has had his best states. Its all down hill from now on in barring one or two states.
Furthermore Trump will trounce wee hillary clink.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2016, 19:47
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25 Mar 2016, 19:47#11
 What is for sure there will be immense public outrage if trump doesnt get the nomination. Polls already show this.It may be an idea for Trump to form a brand new party in anycase. The GOP is in cahoots with the democrats and is run by rotten globalists. Hopefully Trump has taken over the party - the best outcome.One other thing that is clear is that the GOP globalists would rather have their candidate hilary clink in the whitehouse as crooked as she is. They are the same people.
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