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Some BBC news for you Shark

Started by Plum24 REPLIES624 VIEWS· 01 May 2020, 12:03
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 May 2020, 12:03
#1
01 May 2020, 12:03#1

Here is something reported on by the BBC recently(this week). Other outlets also carried the story...


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52457805


So let's summarise...


  1. One of the pilots has spoken openly and in detail on numerous occasions in describing the event. 
  2. Some crew aboard the carriers have done the same.
  3. The person running the program that researched this, and other events, has also spoken openly and is part of the team that caused this footage to surface.
  4. The Pentagon has now confirmed that the footage is real but that they have classed it as unknown. 

And this is one of the encounters in the footage as detailed on its wiki page;

"Fravor began a circular descent to approach the object.[14] As Fravor further descended, he reported that the object began ascending along a curved path, maintaining some distance from the F-18, mirroring its trajectory in opposite circles.[14][15] Fravor then made a more aggressive maneuver, plunging his fighter to aim below the object, but at this point the UFO apparently accelerated and disappeared in less than two seconds, leaving the pilots "pretty weirded out".[14][18]

Subsequently, the two fighter jets began a new course to the combat air patrol (CAP) rendezvous point. "Within seconds" Princeton radioed the jets that a radar target had appeared 60 miles (97 km) away at the predetermined rendezvous point. According to Popular Mechanics, a physical object would have had to move greater than 2,400 miles per hour (3,900 km/h) to reach the CAP ahead of the Navy fighters. Their jets have a maximum speed of Mach 1.8 (1,190 miles per hour (1,920 km/h)). To actually get there "within seconds" would have required an air speed of at least 42,000 miles per hour (68,000 km/h). Two other jets went to investigate the new radar location, but "By the time the Super Hornets arrived [...] the object had already disappeared." Both F-18s then returned to Nimitz.[4] Commander Fravor reflected on his sighting: "I have no idea what I saw. It had no plumes, wings or rotors and outran our F-18s. But I want to fly one."[5] In a 2017 interview with the Washington Post he stated "It was a real object, it exists and I saw it" and when asked what he believes it was he speculated it was "Something not from the Earth."


One could apply Lord Hill-Norton's reasoning here and say;


Regardless of whom is flying these crafts, it's of great defence significance. And if the pilot is a madman that is hallucinating, how did he become a squadron commander in the world's premier air force flying the most potent aircraft known. Super Hornet = $70 000 000. 


The defence significance could be estimated through the perceived gulf in ability. Something that can instantly appear, anywhere on your map and render you as vulnerable as you can be. That's like a godmode cheatcode in gaming. And there's a reason that terminology is used. You can't win against it. In real-world military terms, it equates to instant surrender.


All this begs the questions, what else is in their inventory and why is this not a much bigger story? 


What's that famous Jack Nicholson quote again..?




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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
01 May 2020, 16:08
#2
01 May 2020, 16:08#2
@Plum, I have briefly seen this in the media, but will take a more detailed look at it. 
I do think that if Aliens travelled across the galaxies to us, they would probably announce their presence. I do not believe under any circumstance that governments are communicating with Aliens, without the public knowing. 
One of the main issues is that astrophysicists who have dedicated their lives to studying the stars are never the ones to see Aliens. They have technology advanced enough to see planets hundreds of millions of light-years away, surveillance around the planet -etc etc.
Most of the time it is people that would not make credible witnesses in a court of law. Investigations into people who have seen aliens, often reveal other irregularities in their lives.
The more legitimate people who have seen something, have probably seen military experiments, or natural phenomena in the sky. 
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By the way, you said that you might move overseas to Canada or another Western country. Canada like New Zealand is more left-wing than most countries, even than most Western countries. It might be a bit of a shock for you. 
Some of the older people in their 70's got a more conservative world view from when it was more prevalent some time ago - before the internet. They had the cold war to deal with, and in SA Apartheid also made whites more conservative - while the world was changing. 
Whereas you are younger, so you will become a smaller minority with this view as generation X and the Millenials become the vast majority. 

People keep saying that the left media attacks Trump. However, apart from Fox - just about all media attacks Trump in the US- and around the world. Does that mean that 95%+ of the media is left-leaning, or does it mean that that the remaining 5% are just very far right-leaning, and actually consider centrists to be left? 
A bit like driving a car where the middle of the road appears to be on the far left-hand side...

There is a change of ideology about to happen over the next 10 years. This is why Trump supporters will support him no matter what, as he is their last vestige. It is not that they like him so much, Obama was to progressive for them - and they saw the world moving away. They jumped on the Trump bandwagon with his rhetoric of nationalism, religion, conservatism etc.
While you say you are not religious, I think you are more religious than you realize. You share many of the same types of characteristics such as:
  1. Hate for scientists, engineers, and technical expert specialists. 
  2. Suspicion of organizations such as WHO and the UN. 
  3. Dislike for countries like New Zealand that are liberal. 
  4. For a more detailed portfolio, take a look at what Beeno says and believes.

Just general patterns of thought that are more akin to the far-right religious right. Demographics show that in the US, and other Western countries this line of thought is on its way out- at least in terms of being able to get a significant amount of votes as an ideology. In Canada and New Zealand, it is long gone, with other Western countries following suit. 
Generation X is more left, but the Millenium generation and generation X is far more left-leaning. More importantly, they are not religious, and that is not going to change when they get older. The definition of what right-leaning is will change within 10 years...
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
01 May 2020, 19:58
#3
01 May 2020, 19:58#3
Why is that these alien photos are always so blurry. The one on the far right looks lie a tie-fighter from Star Wars



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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
01 May 2020, 20:00
#4
01 May 2020, 20:00#4
This is Nessie, the lock ness monster. Once more the photo is blurry...

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 May 2020, 20:16
#5
01 May 2020, 20:16#5

Ok my goodness.

What you posted up there was such convoluted concoction or rubbish, assumption and poor logic that I don't even know where to begin.

Just ask yourself how much of your reply relevant to the example I posted.

Start there.


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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
01 May 2020, 20:26
#6
01 May 2020, 20:26#6
The summary is your ideology is on its way out, but you will have to exist for much longer than most people who share this with you. So you will be an isolated minority... 
For the aliens and Nessie, why are the photos always so blurry? 
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 May 2020, 21:33
#7
01 May 2020, 21:33#7

Let me try...


I do think that if Aliens travelled across the galaxies to us, they would probably announce their presence. I do not believe under any circumstance that governments are communicating with Aliens, without the public knowing.

Why do you assume to know how ETs would behave? Do you know something that nobody else does?
Who mentioned governemtns and aliens communicating?

One of the main issues is that astrophysicists who have dedicated their lives to studying the stars are never the ones to see Aliens. They have technology advanced enough to see planets hundreds of millions of light-years away, surveillance around the planet -etc etc.
We don't have telescopes strong enough to see a spaceship parked outside a cave on Jupiter. There aren't any active space radars either...as far as i know.

Most of the time it is people that would not make credible witnesses in a court of law. Investigations into people who have seen aliens, often reveal other irregularities in their lives.
What does that have to do with the incident above? 

The more legitimate people who have seen something, have probably seen military experiments, or natural phenomena in the sky.

The above is a legitimate case.

Not one of the trained observes or researchers involved thinks it's either one of those. And for quite legitimate reasons too.


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 May 2020, 10:28
#8
02 May 2020, 10:28#8

He calls others simpletons...

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 May 2020, 10:43
#9
02 May 2020, 10:43#9

Living abroad in a liberal dominated country may be a shock, you say? 

Yeah, been there, done it, had a blast thanks. 

Being a rational doesn't mean you're a conservative. Eg...disliking religions that call for subjugation of outsiders is not a conservative trait. It's a rational one. Similar to supporting a leader that brings success. 

All media, on both sides, pumped Iraq 2.0. Use their opinion as your yardstick at your own peril.

And then these gems...

  1. Hate for scientists, engineers, and technical expert specialists. Couldn't be more wrong. Literally could not be more wrong.
  2. Suspicion of organizations such as WHO and the UN. Isn't everyone? You should be.
  3. Dislike for countries like New Zealand that are liberal. Spain is the most liberal and it's my favorite country. 
  4. For a more detailed portfolio, take a look at what Beeno says and believes. Yeah...ok. I'd much rather bet on Beeno than you. Because umm...his track record. Yours is horrendous.

Shark, rather stick to selling pop-ups.

Your life assessment and advice is terrible.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 May 2020, 10:51
#10
02 May 2020, 10:51#10

I can't understand why this isn't a bigger story...

There are two options here and both are huge. I can't think of bigger or more important stories...

1) We are being visited, or...

2) Humans have developed gravity manipulation technologies.

Both would draw a line under everything that has happened before and change the course of human history for ever.

Perhaps I'm missing something. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
02 May 2020, 11:26
#11
02 May 2020, 11:26#11

Spain is the most liberal country...Utter crap...A Catholic country, sure... Spain is arguably a second world country, unlike Northern Europe countries. 

This website did a review of most liberal countries. While not the easiest stat to measure, they do provide their reasoning. 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/most-liberal-countries/

I found a close up that is not so blurry of one of your space ships. 


Here you go...

" By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing…kill yourself. It’s just a little thought; I’m just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day they’ll take root – I don’t know. You try, you do what you can.

(Kill yourself.)


Seriously though, if you are, do.

Aaah, no really. There’s no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan’s little helpers. Okay – kill yourself.

Seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good.

Seriously.

No this is not a joke. You’re [going], “There’s going to be a joke coming.” There’s no fucking joke coming. You are Satan’s spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked and you are fucking us. Kill yourself. It’s the only way to save your fucking soul. Kill yourself

Planting seeds.

I know all the marketing people are going, “He’s doing a joke…” There’s no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, fucking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend – I don’t care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil fucking machinations. (Machi…) Whatever, you know what I mean.

I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too: “Oh, you know what Bill’s doing? He’s going for that anti-marketing dollar. That’s a good market. He’s very smart.”

Oh man, I am not doing that, you fucking, evil scumbags!

“Ooh, you know what Bill’s doing now? He’s going for the righteous indignation dollar. That’s a big dollar. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We’ve done research – huge market. He’s doing a good thing.”

Godammit, I’m not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a goddamn dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet.


“Ooh, the anger dollar. Huge. Huge in times of recession. Giant market. Bill’s very bright to do that.”

God, I’m just caught in a fucking web.

“Ooh, the trapped dollar, big dollar, huge dollar. Good market – look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the trapped dollar…”

How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like fucking babies at night, don’t you?

“What didya do today, honey?”

“Oh, we made ah, we made ah arsenic a childhood food now, goodnight.” [snores] “Yeah we just said, you know, is your baby really too loud? You know?” [snores] “Yeah, you know the mums will love it.” [snores]

Sleep like fucking children, don’t ya. This is your world, isn’t it?"

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 May 2020, 09:18
#21
06 May 2020, 09:18#21

So StinkVis,

Did you bother to verify this BBC report where the US army have confirmed their Ratheon targeting systems to have captured unknown craft capable of travelling at 60K km/h+.

Nah, I don't think you did, because as Jack said...remember?



DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 May 2020, 10:36
#22
06 May 2020, 10:36#22

Plum...the pilots were rednecks and their equipment shoddy.

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
06 May 2020, 10:39
#23
06 May 2020, 10:39#23
hick/h?k/Learn to pronouncenounINFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
  1. a person who lives in the country, regarded as being unintelligent or parochial.
  2. ---------------------------------------

  3. When you said Hicks, I thought you meant rednecks, and "you" were going to give "their" perspective. I now see that you were referring to a comedian called Hicks who hates advertisers and marketers...

  4. Plump, do you cry into your pillow at night when you think of bad Sharkbok? Like "Hicks" do you want Sharkbok to be dead? The pain is too much...
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I will follow up on the alien conspiracy a bit later on. Last I heard they were about to reveal themselves, but one of them caught Coronavirus and they also decided to piss off.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 May 2020, 11:30
#24
06 May 2020, 11:30#24

stickler

 noun/?st?kl?r/ 

stickler (for something)

 

a person who thinks that a particular quality or type of behavior is very important and expects other people to think and behave in the same way

a stickler for punctuality

See stickler in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 May 2020, 13:34
#25
06 May 2020, 13:34#25

Dead? Never, Stink-Vissie


Just admiring your choice of profession. 

It's you vs the enemy(consumer), huh?

Every time the victim exhales of blinks your lot tighten the grip that little bit more. 

What happened to your dreams bro?

Still, are you gonna quote me on those pop-ups or not?


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