The Art of the Deal . . .

Bozo started off demanding $25 billion for his stupid wall and everyone just laughed. 

Then he dropped to $5.7 billion and the Democrats said no, but they did agree to give him $1.6 billion. 

Bozo refused. Instead he had a hissy fit and shut down the government for 35 days. After plunging the country into crisis, denting the economy and putting thousands of people out of work, a humiliated Bozo finally had to re-open the government without getting his funding. 

Now he's accepted $1.375 billion which is less than what the Democrats were prepared to give him before he went off on his epic sulk.

Can one of the Trumpanzees explain how this was a good deal and what the point of the government closure was . . . because it looks as if Bozo put everyone through all that just to beat himself down by $225 million dollars.

Well?

They said not a dime...no compromise.  He said, let's talk, let's make a deal, I will compromise.  They said no.  1.375B$ is a hell of a lot more than a dime. Not enough, but it's a start. He played them. This is about optics...and he is already shining the light on some of the absurd abortion laws. The dems will have to do something to sav e face. For a non politician he plays the game very well.

Yes the vast majority of Americans want border security and a wall. Trump has unmasked these anti American forces like no other.

One really wonders why poor rooitwit vs so retarded needing to have everything explained. And oh the Wall will be built for sure! 6 more years of Presi dent Trump!

Bluebokkie get with it oak. A wall i an important feature but so are border patrol officers, technologies and a change of immigration laws. However the open borders globalists in both parties are hell bent on destroying the nation as they are the nation states of Europe via mass invasion, population replacement etc etc. They work on many levels to achieve their agenda.

Blue, does burglary bars alwas keep thiefs out. Doors and safety gates? Do you have a fence around your property? Do you lock your doors?

Rooi, "not a dime" isn't 1.6billion. 

Blue

Prior to drones equipped with heat sensing long range cameras walls may have been less effective.

As it stands, the problem with a tunnel is that it must rise somewhere and with today's audio and video technology, digging tunnels secretly ain't very easy.

Without having to physically patrol areas on foot, drones can patrol the wall and pick up heat signatures.

They can average out  amounts of heat traffic and quite easy determine where tunnels come up.

So you might say, they could use one tunnel with numerous exits. The problem there is that if one exit is discovered then the entire network is shut down.

Also, as yourself you might know, solids are the best sound conductors known. Placing listening devices at intervals along the wall would pretty much make it impossible to dig without being detected. Again, an unmanned bit of tech.

Nevermind digging, just walking through a tunnel, even if it's a few hundred meters below ground would be relatively easy to detect. Combining that with software that is set to recognise various sounds and patterns makes illegal crossing through tunnels very close to impossible.

Finally, narrowing down routes into the US to tunnel systems makes the entire process of getting across the border illegally a lot more tricky. 

What's is more likely to happen is that they'll go over it. 

A case of spend tons of money and time on something that will immediately be useless once discovered versus using quickly erected scaffolding, ladders and ropes...the choice is pretty obvious.

With a team of four guys, I'm confident that I can erect 5 stories of single column scaffolding in about five minutes.

I don't know how the wall is going to look but I'm sure going over it will be a lot easier. 

Also, going straight through it might not be that difficult either. A few well located blast holes and some explosives might do the job. Obviously diversions might be required haha

Haha anyone know where I can apply to "test the wall"?

Draad

Cumon dude. That point is low tier. You can't say that because something is not 100% effective that it's instantly useless. 

It's like arguing that because tires get punctured sometimes we should rather drive on wood wheels.

Better is never as good as perfect but always more valuable than poor.

"You can't say that because something is not 100% effective that it's instantly useless. "

That was exactly my point Plum. I have realised lately that I struggle to communicate clearly. 

I am obviously pro wall. I wish we had a physical barrier on our border. A wall can be breached , but  it's a starting point for securing a border. Guarding it with various forms of te ch would be the next step.

My bad Draad. Had I read your post a bit more carefully I may have picked up on the point you were making.  

The on ly deal poor rooijackass knows about is a raw deal.