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Trump Has Given Unusual Leeway to Fauci, but Aides Say He’s Losing His Patience

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Mar 2020, 07:46
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25 Mar 2020, 07:46#1

President Trump has praised Dr. Anthony S. Fauci as a “major television star.” He has tried to demonstrate that the administration is giving him free will to speak. And he has deferred to Dr. Fauci’s opinion several times at the coronavirus task force’s televised briefings.

But Dr. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984, has grown bolder in correcting the president’s falsehoods and overly rosy statements about the spread of the coronavirus in the past two weeks — and become a hero to the president’s critics because of it. And now Mr. Trump’s patience has started to wear thin.

So has the patience of some White House advisers, who see Dr. Fauci as taking shots at the president in some of his interviews with print reporters while offering extensive praise for Mr. Trump in television interviews with conservative hosts.

Mr. Trump knows that Dr. Fauci, who has advised every president since Ronald Reagan, is seen as credible with a large swath of the public and with journalists, and so he has given the doctor more leeway to contradict him than he has other officials, according to multiple advisers to the president.

When Mr. Trump knows that he has more to gain than to lose by keeping an adviser, he has resisted impulses to fight back against apparent criticism, sometimes for monthslong interludes. One example was when he wanted to fire the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, in 2017 and early 2018. Another was Jeff Sessions, the former attorney general. Mr. Trump eventually fired both when he felt the danger in doing so had passed.

So far, the president appears to be making the same calculation with Dr. Fauci, who was not at the briefing room podium on Monday evening. When asked why, Mr. Trump said he had just been with Dr. Fauci for “a long time” at a task force meeting.

“He’s a good man,” Mr. Trump said. Dr. Fauci was scheduled to be on Fox News with Sean Hannity a short time later.

Still, the president has resisted portraying the virus as the kind of threat described by Dr. Fauci and other public health experts. In his effort to create a positive vision of a future where the virus is less of a danger, critics have accused Mr. Trump of giving false hope.

Dr. Fauci and Mr. Trump have publicly disagreed on how long it will take for a coronavirus vaccine to become available and whether an anti-malaria drug, chloroquine, could help those with an acute form of the virus. Dr. Fauci has made clear that he does not think the drug necessarily holds the potential that Mr. Trump says it does.

In an interview with Science Magazine, Dr. Fauci responded to a question about how he had managed to not get fired by saying that, to Mr. Trump’s “credit, even though we disagree on some things, he listens. He goes his own way. He has his own style. But on substantive issues, he does listen to what I say.”

But Dr. Fauci also said there was a limit to what he could do when Mr. Trump made false statements, as he often does during the briefings.

“I can’t jump in front of the microphone and push him down,” Dr. Fauci said. “OK, he said it. Let’s try and get it corrected for the next time.”

In an interview with CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Dr. Fauci played down the idea that there was a divide between him and the president. “There isn’t fundamentally a difference there,” he said.

“The president, has heard, as we all have heard, what are what I call anecdotal reports that certain drugs work. So what he was trying to do and express was the hope that if they might work, let’s try and push their usage,” Dr. Fauci said. “I, on the other side, have said I’m not disagreeing with the fact anecdotally they might work, but my job is to prove definitively from a scientific standpoint that they do work. So I was taking a purely medical, scientific standpoint, and the president was trying to bring hope to the people.”

A White House spokesman and Dr. Fauci did not respond to requests for comment.

Dr. Fauci came to his current role as the AIDS epidemic was exploding and President Reagan was paying it little attention. He and C. Everett Koop, the surgeon general, were widely credited with spurring the Reagan administration to action against AIDS, a fact that underscores Dr. Fauci’s ability to negotiate difficult politics.

He has recognized Mr. Trump’s need for praise; in the president’s presence and with audiences that are friendly to him, Dr. Fauci has been complimentary. He told the radio host Mark Levin on Fox News of the administration’s response to the virus: “I can’t imagine that under any circumstances that anybody could be doing more.”

And Dr. Fauci is savvy not just about the inner workings of the government but about the news media that covers it.

When Vice President Mike Pence took over as the lead of the coronavirus task force, his advisers wanted to put a 24-hour pause on interviews that administration officials were giving as they assessed where the administration was after a chaotic few weeks. They were initially fine with Dr. Fauci’s appearances, meeting with him before interviews to get a sense of what he planned to say.

But in the past two weeks, as Dr. Fauci’s interviews have increased in frequency, White House officials have become more concerned that he is criticizing the president.

Officials asked him about the viral moment in the White House briefing room, when he put his hand to his face and appeared to suppress a chuckle after Mr. Trump referred to the State Department as the “Deep State Department.” Dr. Fauci had a benign explanation: He had a scratchy throat and a lozenge he had in his mouth had gotten stuck in his throat, which he tried to mask from reporters.

Some officials have not questioned that Dr. Fauci is giving interviews, but they have wondered how he has so much time for so many request from the news media.

Dr. Fauci, for his part, has been dismissive of some questions about whether he was at odds with the president, treating it as a news media obsession.

“I think there’s this issue of trying to separate the two of us,” he said on CBS.


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Mar 2020, 09:32
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25 Mar 2020, 09:32#2

Here's an example of this self-important yet profoundly stupid imbecile trying to pretend he's some kind of medical genius and authority on Coronavirus . . .

"I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President."

I mean really, the fact that there are Trumpanzees dumb enough to swallow this kind of bullshit is literally astounding. 

I feel sorry for Fauci and the other members of the CV task team spoon-feeding this moron information and then having to correct him or contradict him when he inevitably gets it wrong every time.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Mar 2020, 10:48
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25 Mar 2020, 10:48#3

Ffs. Rooinek, how can you forget that his oom wus an eminent scientist.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Mar 2020, 12:20
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25 Mar 2020, 12:20#4

Oh yes, Uncle John the "great super genius"!

Pity Bozo the incredibly stupid buffoon didn't get any of Uncle John's "great super genius" genes.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Mar 2020, 12:50
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25 Mar 2020, 12:50#5
More NY Slimes fake news. Is that why there was no link to the article? Because it’s by the NYT? Watch the press conferences and see if this is true. I watched the one where the reporters kept telling Trump that he was contradicting Fauci. I was actually watching it on live stream as it played out. Trump kept on telling that them that he was not doing so or trying to do so. He was talking from a position of giving the people some hope that they are getting there. They kept asking the BS over and over. Then Fauci stepped in and said that in now way is he and Trump contradicting each other and that Trump was not contradicting him, Fauci either. He explained to the reporters that Trump was viewing it from the position of a normal person and that he was correct in saying that they are getting there. He then said that he, Fauci himself, was looking from a scientific perspective. He has to. He is a scientist after all. He said that, as a scientist he has to wait for all the data before he can make a CONCLUSIVE scientific fact based statement saying that the drugs are working. It would be irresponsible of him to come to a conclusion that everything is fine and they can give the go ahead. Fact is that he clearly said that Trump is not wrong. He, Fauci, just do not have the scientific facts yet to 100% confirm the same.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Mar 2020, 14:37
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25 Mar 2020, 14:37#6

Just in case you dumbasses mi ssed it:

Redrooi you obviously have no grasp of the situation and obviously didn't read my post regarding Dr Fauci asking the media not to try and drive a wedge between the President and him.

Now allow Dr Fauci to educate you, to enlighten your darkness. Lets see if any light can penetrate your closed bigoted "mind".

Dr Fauci appeared for an interview on WMAL’s “Mornings on the Mall” in Washington, D.C., where host Mary Walter asked about the 15-day timeline Trump put in place on March 16 but on Monday suggested he will revisit sooner.

“This is something that’s under under very intense discussion. What the president is trying to do is to balance the public health issues with the fact this is having an enormous impact on the economy of the country which may actually, indirectly even, cause an incredible amount of harm and difficulty, even health-wise. So it’s a delicate balancing act which the president is trying to get right. We’re under very intense discussions right now about what the most appropriate timeline is and if we do modify it, how to modify it,” Fauci said. (ya getting a glimmer loons!)

“The president has the awesome responsibility of considering every aspect of this. I just give public health advice completely clean, unconnected with anything else. He has to factor in other things. And that’s the way he operates; he takes in advice from a number of people from a number of different vantage points and then he makes his decision,” the doctor said.

Fauci also applauded the president for the quick actions he took to stem the spread of the virus.

It is extremely important to look at and take into very serious consideration what goes on in other countries. Every country is a bit different in some way, but we learn a lot. We learn a lot from China and we’re learning a lot from Italy. Italy has a very good health care system; Italy has a lot of very good people who are on this and they’re going through a very difficult time, so that’s one of the things that’s very concerning.

I believe Italy got into this much trouble for a number of reasons which hopefully we have avoided, namely the influx of cases from China were not shut off immediately in Italy and one of the important things that we did was the president’s decision to very early on, stop the influx, first from China, and now from Europe, particularly the countries Italy, France and others, the entire European Union. Because one of the things that feeds the country is when you have influx of cases from outside. Once they’re here, then it’s up to us to mitigate the spread throughout the country. 

Thank goodness a corrupt clown like Hillary isn't in charge or the whacked out communist loon crazy Bernie or the corrupt, lying senile quid pro Joe!

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