Trump tells Republican Politicians his supporters will not vote if they do not overturn election

Trump can see he is going to jail soon. The walls are closing in.
He is trying to blackmail Republican politicians with their careers by saying he will tell people to not vote- unless they go along with his coup and create a civil war. 
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Trump will start supporting other candidates(puppets) to replace the incumbent Republican runners.  These new politicians(puppets) will be Nazis from the Third Reich. 

What has happened to America? It was once the land of opportunity and the fairest place in the world.
Now, the global corporate monopolies have shafted America and they have politicians from both sides on the payroll. All the power is in the hands of a tiny minority, while most Americans are getting poorer. The US Political puppets have more skills as lobbyists than governing. More interested in getting rich than doing their duties as public officials.  

Pushed into a fight of left vs right- even when many people are closer to the center. 

Get a freaking life you TWAT.

Have you ever been in America Shark?

Here’s an inconvenient fact for you to consider:

In the US the top 10% of income earners pay 45% of all taxes.

In France they pay 33%

In Germany they pay 30%

In Sweden they pay 27%

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The mehanism that creates this result is sales tax….with the high sales taxes in Europe  the poorer classes are heavily taxed. Sales tax is much lower in the US, but property tax paid by the wealthy is much higher.

My London flat and US house were about the same value but I paid eight times as much property tax in the US.

Don’t believe the Democratic dogma,

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Couple of key words you missed….they ‘paid 3.4% on wealth growth’. Almost no country in the world taxes ‘wealth growth’. They tax exercised capital gains and if those gains aren’t exercised during the life of an individual they pay estate tax.

And you are only looking at federal taxes. Property taxes loom large in America.

The bottom 50% of the population in the States pay almost no tax and get food stamps, child support…..Medicaid. Their account with the government on a net basis is probably negative.

It’s all bs. There is a hard working innovative segment of the US population that has made it all possible…and stunningly successful. Which is why we have such an immigration problem. 

That again is BS misrepresented by the fake media.   SB believes the shit they publish and constantly made a fool of  himself.

What Trump said is that it is not worthwhile to vote for so-called Republicans who are part of the swamp and also corrupt - such as the Democrats are totally.    They do not represent the people - they represent themselves.    

Until the Democrats moved to the extreme left  - where 40% of their support base is -  the difference between the Democratic Party and the Republicans got blurred - but recently the parties have realigned into two different approaches  that  represents -

*    the corrupt Democrats  with only principle being to enrich themselves by all means possible and undermining the USA as a country and democracy worldwide; and

*    the Republicans who enhance the interests of the USA  and its citizens as a Democracy and in doing so counter enhancement of Chines influence in the world.

Mozart is right, there are other taxes besides INCOME tax and there is tax avoidance (legal) and tax evasion (criminal). Wealth tax, Capital Gains and Dividend tax, interest (usury) etc and Estate Duty is huge, depending on countries and we all pay VAT every time we buy. This differs in SA where all is applicable...except wealth tax but is now on the cards. The rich don't tend to rely on income as they have access to capital carefully planned with all the credit in the world.

The wealthy can be divided into two at least catergories, well off and mega wealthy. The mega wealthy can afford expensive tax advice and services and use complicated legal structures and off shore options.

Both are contributors to economic value to countries, create innovation, create jobs and businesses and employ people who in turn pay income tax deducted from their salaries.

Wealthy people do get the benefit of public services like roads, police etc but hardly ever use other public services...they don't need to. They make and pay for private services.

The working man contributes very little as an individual but only in mass as he usually uses and at times drains these facilities. Ayn Rand called them the looters. And they are always whining and complain as if the world owes them something.

However in SA the new rich (mainly Government Leaders) are big time Looters that not only do this but rob the country's economy and add nothing but destruction of services. We are totally drained...the only sector that full attention is given is SARS.

Depends however on the countries tax systems and in SA the wealthy are generally new wealth obtained by manipulated and blatant theft...and the older rich which are either immigrating or dying out. The middle class cannot immigrate as the rand value is snookered by other countries currency values.

Tax relief should be  pro rata to what you give to a economy (in kind,value and service) not to what you need. What logic is there to penalise those big contributors against leniency to those who contribute very little or nothing. Perhaps a very basic system where all pay a fixed amount of 10% of income earned and no cgt or wt, interest or dividends as this encourages investment and savings and does away with costly and complicated revenue collection and services. 

This is the result of socialism, it appears that USA is facing this problem with new Democrat party which shows similiar ideology to Karl Marx's communism.

Folks we are all wasting our time on this clown (Sharktwat) as he is out of his depth when it comes to taxes and monetary issues.

Dole, welfare and food hampers are what he understands best.

Move to China d!ckhead.

Remain in the third world where you belong Draad , and don't comment on first-world topics. 

Actually every merger is scrutinized for anti trust…these investigations are thorough and involve independent economists and lawyers. I have been through several myself and there are no foregone conclusions.

Big tech has spawned a cadre of billionaires. But society has benefitted vastly by their efforts. There are some things in the tax system, like Carried Interest that are controversial. But most of the stuff in the media is nonsense.

If a profitable company is not paying taxes it’s probably because they have incurred losses before that they are allowed to deduct from future profits.

Dividends and capital gains are taxed at a lower rate, which is why a man like Buffett shows a lower tax rate than one would anticipate. But dividends are derived from an income stream that has already been taxed, as was the money providing the capital to buy the dividend producing asset.

It’s all so hilariously simplistic to assume bad wealthy people aren’t being taxed. The government is constantly trying to get people’s money and people protect themselves.

What moral code says the government should get 60% of your assets when you die….having already taxed those assets multiple times before. 

The imperative to tax derives from the imperative to provide goodies , which derives from the imp erative to get votes, which derives from the imperative to stay in power,

I agree substantially with the above.   However, the Democrats are in bed with the richest four people in the world and they have a huge interest in China.   Fact is the Democrats are the prisoners of the ultra-rich and the Chinese - while their leadership is totally corrupt anyway.

Most Democrats are involved in the armaments industry and a few of the Republicans as well.   Cheney for instance is one of those and so is a few Republican Senators,     Those are the   members the Republicans try and get rid of. and replace with people not in the swamp.   

The Fake media in which you believe in is part of the problem.    They hide things that is opposed to their narrow program  and that program ties in with their owners  as well.   The owners of the Big Tech companies and Walmart - together with the Chinese own the fake media,

Believe me the more you talk about the Democrats left - the more it shows  ignorance of the real situation.     They hate the billionaires - but not their money.    Sanders have three mansions and is a multi millionaire himself - and the rest are all on the take.   

The present scenario fits the Democrats - that si why they want to enhance a dictatorship in the USA.        .                      

ButtPlug, you just misconstrue what I have said.
I am not knocking the Big Tech inventors; I am criticizing monopolies.

Working in advertising, I can see how Google and Facebook use their monopolistic positions to shaft advertisers.
If there was more competition, advertising online would be much cheaper. Their auctions get more laughable by the day, and it is just them driving up the auction instead of the market.

So I am supporting perfect competition capitalism, not the Monopolies that the US government allow, or actually create through their lack of actions. 

If Facebook was not allowed to acquire Instagram, Zuckerberg's wealth would be less than half of what it is. He invented Facebook (or actually stole the idea) - but he did not create Instagram.
He acquired it due to the government being on the Payroll. and not acting in the public interests.
Now the very same politicians are complaining about the power of Facebook- after getting their merger paycheque. 

Data privacy would improve with more competition, as it would prevent one company getting access to all the information. 

It is simple, competition benefits everyone except the shareholders and company owner. 
If governments allow monopolies, it is because they are on the Payroll. 

@Clevermike, it is clear both Democrats and Republicans in the US are on the take. 

These monopolies have created a massive amount of wealth for a few people- more than enough to bribe all the politicians.

The same politicians who allowed Facebook to launch a hostile takeover of Instagram to create a communist monopoly of one voice on social media. 
In China, only one state controlled media is allowed - and social media has gone down the same path with the merger of Facebook/Instag ram. 

"Remain in the third world where you belong Draad, and don't comment on first-world topics. "

This so called 3rd world gave you your education Viskop...it was set back by idiots like yourself, but I'll take Cape Town over Cornwell any day of the week...water is a bit cold, but Stilbaai is just a few hours away...

Blocking monopolistic mergers is not de-incentivizing people...Neither is paying a consistent % of tax as everyone else. 

At no point have I suggested that inventors should not be the richest people in the world. The problem is when they are allowed to acquire competitors. If they are that good, they should be able to compete without eliminating the competition through hostile acquisitions. 

True Communist economist practices are to have 1 company for each industry. (Instead of competition). 
That is where America is heading. Their politics have been a farse, both the left and the right have been on the payroll for ages. 

Preventing monopolies is protecting the rights of 99% of the population, over the richest 1%. 

Anytime there is a corporate merger that reduces or ends competition =
Winners: Shareholders (richest 1-3%)
Losers: Everyone else. (other 97%)

If politicians are allowing these mergers to create monopolies or price-fixing by fewer oligopolies- the only explanation is they are on the corporate payroll and selling everyone out. 

@ButtPlug

Blockchain may work, but there could be ways around it.

Identifying people is about giving them a unique ID. For a long time, the cookie was/stll is an ID.
Third-party cookies will eventually be phased out, but there are replacement methods to achieve the same results. (e.g. server event tracking of 1st party cookies- and passing this data to Facebook to be matched to their ID database). 
 
If someone logs in to a website like Facebook, they can be ID'ed without a cookie. The login details are mapped to an ID. 
Their third-party behaviors (on websites and apps across the internet) can still be matched up by passing a first-party cookie to Facebook individually by this website server event- which allows Facebook to get around not being able to use third-party cookies.

It is hash encrypted, so it will" or should" only match the Facebook login ID with a server event, assuming that person has a Facebook login ID. 

So unless Facebook was forced to allow people to log in with blockchain, what is it going to do? 
Also, even if people logged into all websites with blockchain, their profile page on Facebook would still have an ID to be matched to a website server events (e.g. a website shopping cart, or account login page after making a purchase). 

’Instagram has become a key fixture of Facebook’s growth. Facebook bought the photo-sharing start-up for $1 billion in 2012, paying what seemed like a shocking sum of $1 billion for a company with 13 employees at the time.

Now, Instagram has more than 1 billion monthly users, including 500 million daily users of the Stories feature, which was introduced in 2016 to compete against a popular feature of the same name from Snapchat. That growth has resulted in Instagram being valued by analysts at more than $100 billion, or about one-fifth of Facebook’s total market cap.’

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So what does this tell us. The merger is being viewed in the context of what Instagram currently is….but it’s only as successful because it leveraged Facebook’s infrastructure. This is in effect more like new product development than a merger.

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‘When Zuckerberg spoke with analysts on the Facebook earnings call in July 2018, he took credit for Instagram’s accomplishment of amassing 1 billion users, saying “We believe Instagram has been able to use Facebook’s infrastructure to grow more than twice as quickly as it would have on its own.’

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So it’s very hard to say consumers haven’t been massively benefitted by the merger and that Facebook, which by way of disclosure I own in my portfolio, doesn’t deserve to profit by the services it enabled.

Not for a second do I knock the folks who own the social media companies but they have to be prevented from gobbling up all smaller companies that either offer technology or a product that might raise a competitive threat.

The Telecommunications and Television companies in North America have Federal laws that prevent just such "Buying" up of the competition .

If these laws were not in place we would have one company owning all the cable and telephony with no competition and the users would be held to ransom and brainwashed by the Chinese owners.

Only difference is that most politicians in North America are either on the Board or major shareholders in these social media giants and would not introduce legislation to prevent any such action as they are rolling in the funds generated by these giants.

But the bottom line is action is required NOW.

Regarding taxes.

Is their system in place anywhere in the world that appears to be fair to all income groups?

If Instagram had a user base of over 1 billion, and they only had 12 employees- then they had the potential to be better than Facebook. 

If Facebook gave Instagram anything, it was a mature advertising system and the ability to monetize the one billion user base in a quicker fashion. 

However, Snapchat and Tik Tok have built similar advertising systems to Facebook, so Instagram could have done so as well if they were not forced into a hostile takeover by Facebook.
Facebook tried to acquire Snapchat, but the owner of Snap Chat told Zuckerberg to get lost. 

Google was a small company for a long time, as they could not monetize their search engine.
They were a one-trick pony that invented the idea of using website backlinks to rank pages. As soon as people worked out how to spam websites with lots of backlinks, Google was finished and they knew it. They were actively trying to sell Google as they did not see a long-term future once people had worked out their 1 trick of ranking web pages. 

Google was almost acquired by Yahoo - and fortunately for them, the deal never went through. 

Then a tiny compan y called Overture invented PPC advertising, and Google turned into a multi-billion company overnight. Yahoo did however acquire Overture- but it was worthless because Google employed people from Overture. 

Once PPC advertising was invented Google became a profitable company for the first time without relying on venture capital of the dot com era. 

Google then used its dominant position to make continual acquisitions and kill competition. 
They acquired a Display advertising company (that uses interest-based targeting and 3rd party cookies to track people across the internet) . This allowed Google to expand into advertising that was not just searched engine-based. 
Then Google acquired YouTube etc, etc.

If politicians do not prevent monopolies by blocking competitors from acquiring each other- they will cause the collapse of capitalism.
If that happens, it is not capitalism that failed- but corrupt politicians who do not serve the Democratic majority (97% of the population). They have allowed the world to go backwards with a smaller and smaller % of people owning nearly everything- just so they can get a cut for themselves. 

Mark Zuckerburg is a mobster of the 21st century with politicians on the take-
like a civilised Al Capone 

Zuckerberg can see all the applications on people's phones, and how long they use them.
This is how he decided to acquire WhatsApp.
So, Zuckerberg goes onto people's phones to see their behaviour, and from this decide which companies he needs to acquire. 

The US is in trouble as they hate their politicians. The political class has become a bunch of lobbyists who get a cut for accepting bribes to act on the interests of the richest 3%. 

While Americans are torn up between a battle of ideology of left vs right,
politicians and corporates on both sides of the aisles shaft the majority. The real enemies are the globalist monopolies who are the civilised mafia, with politicians on the take. 

Greed and corruption is causing America to go backwards. If a few of these Big Tech monopolies go belly up, suddenly America's GDP is shrinking. 
Everyone benefits from competition except the richest 3%. If politicians act in the interests of the 3% they are on the take. They have accepted bribes from the civilised Mob. 

Google had a market cap of $23 billion at it’s IPO in 2004.  It launched as a big company….before that as a private company it was protected from takeover.

But what evidence do you have of corruption? And by what metrics is America going backwards?

Google started doing paid ads long before their IPO.
Paid ads turned them from a loss-running company to billionaires overnight.
Ongoing acquisitions of competitors have ensured continued domination by killing the competition. 

An example of backward is the ancient Egyptians. A tiny minority owns everything.
So, any progress is an upgrade from this. (e.g. Ancient Greeks/Romans, Modern Democracy). 

It is common knowledge that the richest 3% are getting richer at the expense of the other 97% of the population. While this is not unique to America, it appears to be at its worst in America. 

The average wage appears to be lower than many 1st world countries (especially when you take out the highest 3% of earners to normalize the data).
The median wage seems low given the US is the richest country in the world,

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There is not even a minimum wage which is a total joke, in an economy filled with monopolies and collaborating oligopolies. If it was perfect competition (the ideal economic state for capitalism), having no minimum wage might work. Perfect competition would allow the market to influence the rate, whereas a monopoly will look for ways to shaft people's wages. 

Covid has magnified the problem and shown America to be a country that is designed for shareholders. It is Democratic, except for anything that is money-related.
Anyone else can die- especially if they have not opted into private healthcare. 

The left and right in America have never been so far apart, which is a sign of a country in trouble. A stable Democracy will have a left and right that is closer to the center. 
The only way to fix the problem is to break up monopolies to bring back capitalism - and that will bring the left and right closer to the center.
(And ideally, a fair tax system that creates fair competition). 

Every state has a minimum wage. But in most cases it’s a token number. Actual wages for basic work are far higher. 

To say America is not a stable democracy is hard to justify. Hell you live in an hereditary monarchy! Most European countries have cobbled together alliances….Germany, Italy. I’d be far more worried about the fate of Europe which seems to have been behind by technology and have growing immigrant issues.

The US will be fine.

It is the old story...the Plebs against the Patricians...it's as old as the hills. It really never changes because the problem lies deep in the heart of mans selfish nature.

The middleclass has developed and it seems that's the status quo but middleclass tend to have sheeplike qualities too...today many were lower classes ele vated to their present status and can be easily manipulated too.

The Plebeians Revolt

Starting around 494 BC, the plebeians began to fight against the rule of the patricians. This struggle is called the "Conflict of the Orders." Over the course of around 200 years the plebeians gained more rights. They protested by going on strike.

This is slave labour, not a minimum wage by first-world standards.
No wonder Americans are storming the Capitol. Although some of them are so stupid they rejoice in "capitalism" that allows companies to use them as slave labour.

Minimum wage in the United States - Wikipedia

$7.25 is almost R1000 per day...