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Ashwin Willemse Quits Supersport...ON AIR!!!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 May 2018, 10:26
#41
21 May 2018, 10:26#41

He obviously still believes he’s a superior being....

Moooo la la la Mallet is very, very obviously a superior being as compared to that cllche ridden dumbass bore Ashwin. Even a halfwit like you should be able to see Mallet knows a ton more about rugby than race baiter Ashwin. Mallet is a rugby intellectual giant. Ashwin a mediocre quota bore. Can t see the comparatively ignorant Ashwin ever holding the type of coaching jobs Mallet has..

Mooo la la la your racist tendencies are showing bru. Ashin very clearly has a big racist chip on his should - a bit like you.




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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 May 2018, 10:28
#42
21 May 2018, 10:28#42

Moooooo you have been exposed as a nasty little racist. Please mend you ways bru!

Great to see Blobbok back. Now there is fair minded gentleman.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 10:37
#43
21 May 2018, 10:37#43
I’m a racist Hasbeeno? You are and always have been by your comments. You can take a horse to water....
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 10:43
#44
21 May 2018, 10:43#44
I see no-one on here is willing to castigate Mallett for his Willemse put down....
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 May 2018, 11:02
#45
21 May 2018, 11:02#45

Moooo la la if the hat fits wear it and you racist bias has been exposed by your support of race baiter Ashwin.

So poor Ashwin must throw his toys out of the cot because somebody corrects an error he makes!!!! Bet he has never corrected anybody!!!!  Hahahahahahahahahaha how you comments expose you.

The fact is Ashwin doesn't like  Mallet in particular because Mallet always wins any debate with Ashwin and Mallets vast rugby knowledge and insight makes Ashwin look like the quota commentator he is.  Ashwin knows he looks like a dunce when compared to Mallet and he resents it. SO HE PLAYS THE RACE CARD in order to get both Mallet and Naas fired. How low can one go!!! ALL a planned move by the contemp tible Ashwin.

 Mooo la la la supports Ashwin playing the race card because Moooo is a nasty little racist. Mend you ways Mooooo and an apology to the board would be welcome. 

 Beeno setting poor moooooo straight! Straightening out bent kbbs is what i do.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
21 May 2018, 11:39
#46
21 May 2018, 11:39#46
What exactly does this put down have to do with race?  Workplaces are filled with arguments and conflicts, are they all race-related if people happen to be from a different race? 
The onus (at least in a proper legal system) is on Ashwin to prove that they are racist. From what I saw, I did not see any references to race. 
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 May 2018, 11:55
#47
21 May 2018, 11:55#47

Aaaaaaaaaaaah shame!!! Poor ol Blobbie!!
Still pouting after all these years.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaa!!

Moolaaa ... why should Mallet be castigated? Because he's white? Please explain your stupid comment to us.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 May 2018, 12:03
#48
21 May 2018, 12:03#48

Mooooo la la has scuttled off back into the shadows. The Light has been too much to bear!


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 May 2018, 14:11
#49
21 May 2018, 14:11#49

I think there are contracts and for then to cancel the contract there should be sound reasons.   The obvious one for termination would be racism.   Although the ANC and its alliance partners are screaming racism - they always do when it fits their programme - Willemse will have to have prove that Mallett and/or Botha made racist comments on the screen or even behind doors.

The ANC can scream as much as they like - but that would not count.

So what else can play a role - not seeing eye-to-eye about certain issues and relatively minor ones - like Mallett suggesting that since Willemse did not get a chance to discuss the previous game and that he be the first to comment on the succeeding game - is utter BS which will not stand up in any tribunal that would deal with the matter.   If anyone take umbrage at that it would be the joke of the year and childish to boot..

I think Supersport after studying the factual nd legal implications will make a comment on the issue this week and it would be wise to wait and see what happens.          

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 May 2018, 14:34
#50
21 May 2018, 14:34#50

This article sort of clears it up. Willemse sounds like he's got a very large chip on his shoulder.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2018, 14:51
#51
21 May 2018, 14:51#51
If Mallett corrected Willemse's English on air, he was being highly insensitive......and selective, the South African commentators butcher the language all the time.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 May 2018, 15:00
#52
21 May 2018, 15:00#52

Probably the culmination of something that's been brewing and building for a long time.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 May 2018, 15:39
#53
21 May 2018, 15:39#53

 Appears that Willemse was a big beneficiary from a very shady deal. Clearly he is a corrupt ANC acolyte on the gravy train and now wants to use the race card to get Naas and Mallet fired. My guess is he could well succeed. Willemse is a real racist scumbag.

From the link provided by Draad above:

Mining house Gold Fields allowed ex-con Gayton McKenzie to pack its 2010 empowerment consortium with a dizzying array of his colleagues, family, neighbours and friends – including a R61-million stake to Danny Smith, who has had serious brushes with the law.

Smith's was one of the four largest individual stakes, despite the fact that he admitted to amaBhungane that he "didn't bring any" value to the deal (see below: "Inside McKenzie's inner circle of cronies who pocketed millions" and "I'm clean, says 'gangster' Smith").

AmaBhungane's calculations show McKenzie's associates were handed benefits worth more than R330-million, a substantial part of the R2.1-billion black economic empowerment (BEE) deal. This suggests the company either did not properly vet the transaction or knowingly embraced the enrichment of its consultant's cronies.

But it is likely to have serious implications for the company in the United States, where it is listed and is already being investigated by regulatory authorities for alleged transgressions in the same deal

Ashwin Willemse ­(R61.4-million) and Jerome Brauns (R61.4-million)
Willemse, a former Springbok rugby player, and Brauns were McKenzie's business partners and helped Gold Fields to structure its 2010 empowerment deal.

Numerous sources said McKenzie had stayed at Willemse's house while they worked on the deal.

Brauns, who once served as President Jacob Zuma's lawyer, knew McKenzie from when they were involved in the Jali commission on prison corruption. Brauns was an investigator for the commission, at which McKenzie testified.

McKenzie and Brauns maintained a working relationship at least until the end of 2010, when the Gold Fields deal was completed.

Neither Brauns nor Willemse responded to questions.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 17:02
#54
21 May 2018, 17:02#54
Moz is the only one of you lot to recognise the condescending put down for what it was. The rest of you prove that racism is alive and well in SA and bang on about a mythical plan by Willemse to get Mallett sacked! You should all be ashamed of yourselves. No wonder the powers that be are trying to strangle Bok rugby.
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 17:03
#55
21 May 2018, 17:03#55
Making good headlines in NZ too...
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 May 2018, 17:30
#57
21 May 2018, 17:30#57

Fck Moolaa, HTF can this be spun as racist? Mallet has always been a dick, Naas too at times...as has Willemse this time and in the past.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 17:40
#58
21 May 2018, 17:40#58
Why are numerous posters here trying to rubbish Willemse then and accusing him of a planned assault? That smacks of everyone being in favour of Mallett and refusing to look at the other side. Sounds and looks like racism to me.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 May 2018, 17:52
#59
21 May 2018, 17:52#59

Moolaa

I am not siding with anyone here - but something stinks to high heaven with that incident.  We will have to wait and see what happens.



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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 May 2018, 18:03
#60
21 May 2018, 18:03#60

Moola 

There is no side to look at...only an accusation of "undermining".

We'll know when footage is released. If any.

On Willemse...here is some of his background.

An ex Americans gang member who was a drug addict, drug mule and was involved in mugging s and stabbings on the Cape Flats.

He cleaned up his act and became a Bok.

How clean has he remained?

Well here is what he was up to in 2014...

https://mg.co.za/article/2014-01-17-gunslinger-in-r61m-gold-fields-bee-bonanza


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 May 2018, 18:07
#61
21 May 2018, 18:07#61

A quote from the article...

"Numerous sources said McKenzie had stayed at Willemse's house while they worked on the deal."

Mates with criminals and helped criminals set up a criminal deal that stole money from poor people.

This incident might prove the end o f Willemse.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 May 2018, 19:33
#62
21 May 2018, 19:33#62

mooo la la is desperately trying to excuse Ashwin's corrupt racist approach to things. Game is up mooooo. How about that apology to the board, there is a good oak. Do what is right and you will feel better!

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moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 19:45
#63
21 May 2018, 19:45#63
I rest my case! Everyone defending Mallett and looking for any dirt on Willemse. You guys started all this a few centuries ago. I’m thinking of the old saying “you made your bed, now lie in it” but of course you would have had a maid to make your bed wouldn’t you....
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 May 2018, 19:47
#64
21 May 2018, 19:47#64

I am afraid that the problem has nothing to do with racism -  that was the finding of Supersport.    

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 May 2018, 20:21
#65
21 May 2018, 20:21#65

"You guys started all this a few centuries ago."

Oh, this should be good. Please, 1) who are the "you guys" you are referring to and 2) what did these "you guys" start a few centuries ago?

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
21 May 2018, 20:22
#66
21 May 2018, 20:22#66

Why should this become public and an issue...this arsehole does not have enough backbone to sort these issues behind doors because he relies on a contaminated SA complex of black inferiority complex that all the losers of the world support.

.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 May 2018, 20:26
#67
21 May 2018, 20:26#67

moolaa, I agree that it looks like people are siding with Mallet...myself included...not much of a Mallet fan, but this whole thimg looks staged and rehearsed by AW to me. This did not look like someone losing his cool. It looked cool and calculated. I'm fed up with politics in this country and the world in general. I'm fed up with being made to feel guilty because I was born white in Africa. I'm fed up with always having to worry not to give someone offence by accidentally saying something I wasn't aware of being taboo. I'm fed up by having to be someone I'm not. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 May 2018, 20:30
#68
21 May 2018, 20:30#68

Multichoice CEO Calvo Mawela: "We did not see any racism anywhere."

There was no racism. There was only a grown man who felt slighted and pulled the race card on live TV.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 20:36
#69
21 May 2018, 20:36#69
Pakie I’m not going to go into what you guys did centuries ago. It’s self explanatory and your attitude just makes my argument even stronger. Quit while you are behind...
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 May 2018, 20:42
#70
21 May 2018, 20:42#70

Shit moolaa, I did not know you resented us this much ...always thought ...never mind, you win, I give up.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 May 2018, 20:43
#71
21 May 2018, 20:43#71

No. Don't chicken out. Who are "you guys"? Don't make a claim and then run for the hills when you get challenged.

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
21 May 2018, 20:52
#72
21 May 2018, 20:52#72

I agree with Draad and Pakie...we tired of this bullshit but have no weapons to decimate it. Pity us with our dilemmas ...f a backbone left here in SA except with a minority few.


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 May 2018, 21:09
#73
21 May 2018, 21:09#73

Moolaa, go brush up on your colonial history and then come tell us again who did what a few centuries ago. Are you talking about the Dutch settlers who moved inland to escape the oppressive British rule and inevitably ran into hostile tribes? Are you talking about European settlers who drove off the natives and took their land, just like happened all over the world, including New Zealand? Are you talking about the British who put both white Afrikaners and black people in concentration camps where they died in their thousands? Are you talking about the Mfecane when warlords like Mzilikaze sweeped inland and annihilated any number of smaller black tribes? Who are you talking about and what did they start centuries ago?

Also, you are making assumptions about people you know nothing about.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 May 2018, 21:28
#74
21 May 2018, 21:28#74

Pakie ou moooo la la la doesn't know what he is talking about but insists on being a  racist. Repent of your ways mooooo!

I’m not going to go into what you guys did centuries ago. What a moronic statement. As for me I can assure ou mooo la la la I wasn't around centuries ago. Nether were my ancestors etc.

The black CEO of Supersport saId thIs does not appear to be racIst In anyway. The corrupt gravy traIn prIck AshwIn WIllemse has thrown hIs toys out the cot because he feels outclassed hopelessly by Mallets Rugby knowledge and rugby acumen and he hates It that he loses all the debates In front of a natIonal audIence. The oak can only mouth off platItudes and Is a very poor commentator/rugby analyst. A total bore. Yaaaaaaawn etc.

StIll thInk Mallet and Naas are In danger of beIng fIred as the racIst ANC wIll pull out all the stops to get them fIred..

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
21 May 2018, 21:40
#75
21 May 2018, 21:40#75
Centuries ago .. you guys...  Sure,  I have been living for centuries. Many of the current Boks were born after Apartheid ended... 
I was with Jan Van Riebeeck in 1652 - and I also oversaw the British Colonial rule, and single-handedly beat Shaka Zulu and the Boer Army. 
Let's not paint everyone with the same brush.

Democracy is a much better option- however, that is easy to say from a country that has been democratic for some time. Capitalism and Democracy go hand in hand. 
The political and economic systems of Africa are branded as democratic- but they are communist authoritarian states with self-proclaimed Monarchs Dictators. 
African rulers are often former freedom fighters of oppression to become they very oppressors they replace. 
The richest people in South Africa are black, but so are the poorest. (30 years since Apartheid ended). Inequality is more extreme in Africa than anywhere else in the world, so it is hardly a poster child for democracy.
Athenian democracy developed around the fifth century BC (Before Christ) in the Greek city-state (known as a polis) of Athens, comprising the city of Athens and the surrounding territory of Attica, and is the first known democracy in the world.

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moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 22:19
#76
21 May 2018, 22:19#76
Pure semantics. You can’t escape what your ancestors created by just saying “I wasn’t alive then”. I don’t hate you guys but just want someone other than Moz to admit that what Mallet did was reprehensible and he should be derided for it instead of you all defending him! By trying to transfer the blame to Willemse you are just reaffirming what the world thinks of you already.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
21 May 2018, 22:34
#77
21 May 2018, 22:34#77
@Moola, how do you know this has any racial context? If 2 people have an argument, it can be about many other things as well. If it was racist then, by all means, punish the offenders, however, everyone is innocent before proven guilty. 
If you are making assumptions without any proof, it is reverse racism. You are then the very thing that you accuse others of being. 

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 May 2018, 22:53
#78
21 May 2018, 22:53#78
I love it when you guys talk about reverse racism... I’m not from a country that’s under the spotlight at the moment but SA is. You therefore have to be squeaky clean when it comes to any hint of racism and wankers like Mallett do very little to help the cause. From an outsider ‘s point of view you may not realise how many of you continue to rubbish just about every black player in the S15 and appear to hide behind the “reverse racism” card to justify it! Not a good look chaps...
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
21 May 2018, 23:30
#79
21 May 2018, 23:30#79

@Moola, do you believe my assessment of players has a racial bias? I am critical of players on my couch- but I dont think I have any racial bias. 

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