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Ashwin Willemse Quits Supersport...ON AIR!!!

Started by Plum176 REPLIES2,778 VIEWS· 19 May 2018, 20:57
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
23 May 2018, 08:31
#121
23 May 2018, 08:31#121
Plum, unless you are from outside SA, you won’t get it so stop banging on fruitlessly.
KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
23 May 2018, 09:21
#122
23 May 2018, 09:21#122
Fruitlessly hehe.
Reading Plum's posts I sometimes wish this place was fruitless.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 May 2018, 09:22
#123
23 May 2018, 09:22#123

Hahaha Moola

I lived outside SA for my entire adult life...have been back in SA for 5 years.

Still waiting for those names.


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 May 2018, 09:40
#124
23 May 2018, 09:40#124

Man up Moola

You made a claim. 

Given us names.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 May 2018, 09:52
#125
23 May 2018, 09:52#125

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaa!!!

Plum!!! Remind me never to piss you off.

Awesome post there. Sure as hell shut Moolaa up.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 May 2018, 10:22
#126
23 May 2018, 10:22#126

All I want is for him to give us the names of the people who don't rubbish black players on the basis of their skin color.

Because then we will know who the racists here are, according to him.

Note: I've not called him names, insulted him or anything of the sort.

All I am asking is that he clarify his OWN words?


MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
23 May 2018, 11:33
#127
23 May 2018, 11:33#127
Kiwis for a start. The rest of you do rubbish them continually and it’s the way you do it that you can’t comprehend how an outsider sees it. Subtle little remarks and comments that rightly or wrongly paint an unfavourable picture for me and maybe others? Before you ask, I’m not going to trawl back through a zillion posts to satisfy your insatiable appetite for hard evidence! You have to have been a lawyer or teacher in this or a past life... As an aside, having re-read some of the above posts, I missed the first time round where Hasbeeno stated his “ancestors weren’t around centuries ago”! Classic!!
KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
23 May 2018, 12:03
#128
23 May 2018, 12:03#128
"All I want is for him to give us the names of the people who don't rubbish black players on the basis of their skin color."
Oh well that's easy enough. The list of Yarpies who don't rubbish black players is as follows:
Zero.
There you go Plum. Happy now?
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 May 2018, 12:22
#129
23 May 2018, 12:22#129

Great, thanks.

So all "yarpies" here are racist.

Good to know.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
23 May 2018, 13:44
#130
23 May 2018, 13:44#130

I’ll apologise when my sister gets a job....

What has your sister's lack of employment got to do with any of this?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2018, 14:00
#131
23 May 2018, 14:00#131

Thanks to all who schooled these dumbass kbbs! But, alas, they are bigots of the first order and love nothing more than do do some virtue signaling to make themselves look and feel better. BUT actually it makes them appear more absurd! Hahahahahahahaha priceless!


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 May 2018, 14:21
#132
23 May 2018, 14:21#132

Sorry guys, I won't be around for a while.

Will be attending a neo-naz i training camp...You know all in aid of the final solution.

We racists all have to do our bit...



DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 May 2018, 14:24
#133
23 May 2018, 14:24#133

Irony anyone?

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
23 May 2018, 14:25
#134
23 May 2018, 14:25#134

Really? Cool!!

I've also been accepted to the camp.

See you there!!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 May 2018, 14:30
#135
23 May 2018, 14:30#135

So have I !!!!!!!!!

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 May 2018, 16:45
#136
23 May 2018, 16:45#136

Shall we carpool?

:):):)

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
23 May 2018, 17:13
#137
23 May 2018, 17:13#137
Pakie, my sister hasn’t worked for 40 years...
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2018, 17:17
#138
23 May 2018, 17:17#138

Hasbeeno stated his “ancestors weren’t around centuries ago”! Classic!!

Moooo context is everything and of course i was referring to my ancestors not being in South Africa.

You are sounding as dense as dense denise!!! Hahahahaahahahahahhaha 

Plum the nz racists have been routed and huge EGG has landed. Perhaps they will try harder to keep their deep racism to the themselves and not pollute the board with it. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 May 2018, 18:16
#139
23 May 2018, 18:16#139

"Hasbeeno stated his “ancestors weren’t around centuries ago”! Classic!!"


Obvious Whoosh Beenz.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 May 2018, 18:34
#140
23 May 2018, 18:34#140

The sooner white Saffas give up their identity and disperse into other groups, the better. We will never be forgiven the sins of our forefathers and will forever be labeled racists.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
23 May 2018, 19:16
#141
23 May 2018, 19:16#141
Meanwhile, in the Congo, Sudan and elsewhere, thousands of black people are being killed, maimed, enslaved right now by their own.
But the world has never cared about blacks killing blacks. That's boring. You can't even tell the good guys and bad guys apart.
Beating on white South Africans for a system that has been dead for 28 years, however? Now there's a pretty little soap box with plenty of brownie points to be had!
As Beeno called it: classic virtue signalling from our resident champions of the oppressed.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
23 May 2018, 20:57
#142
23 May 2018, 20:57#142

Here's another example while I'm at it:

The ANC government has now reduced the South African education system to #75 out of 76 in the world (Source : Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, 2017), thus systematically and deliberately destroying any chance the youth of this country may have at normal and productive lives and effectively turning them into illiterate paupers.

What say our resident champions of the oppressed about that? Surely they'll agree that a coloured TV presenter feeling patronized by a couple of white guys is a much more pressing issue, hey? Yes, why not indeed. Let's fall for these silly diversions, these "social media trends", these sensational headlines. Let's stay stupid and ignorant while picking sides in little "racial" squabbles, where grown people act like children, like it's some kind of sport.

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XaviPro1,924 posts
23 May 2018, 21:28
#143
23 May 2018, 21:28#143


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XaviPro1,924 posts
23 May 2018, 21:50
#144
23 May 2018, 21:50#144

Sorry! My bad. Wasn't trying to post anything.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 May 2018, 21:54
#145
23 May 2018, 21:54#145

Pakie great posts and one hopes these ignorant kbbs are getting a glimmer! its hard to feel; so superior when compared to the kbbs!  They really make us look good! Hahahahahaahhahahahaahaha

Appeal to all oaks to remain humble 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 May 2018, 23:37
#146
23 May 2018, 23:37#146
I have lived in some decent spots in the US and UK, attended and taught at some pretty decent educational institutions......but I have never sensed that the intellectual and moral environment of my youth in Cape Town, was in any sense inferior. You have to distinguish between the human beings and the social environment in which they operate. The South African environment was very complex with all sorts of perceived existential threats. People behaved in an exaggerated and protective way.....these same people placed in Australia or New Zealand would have been quite different. The sons and daughters of Nazis are now mega liberals.....why is that? Perhaps because in a humiliated Germany all prior virtues became vices. Funny how we can't get this stuff.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 May 2018, 23:53
#147
23 May 2018, 23:53#147

Well done Mooolaa, your wind-up's a huge success, getting all & sundry firing back ........ but before you get too sanctimonious allow me to remind you that some Maori compared the colonisation of NZ to the Holocaust & with Maori at 15% of the population but sadly 55% of the prison numbers . Shame on you !

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 May 2018, 02:58
#148
24 May 2018, 02:58#148

"Surely they'll agree that a coloured TV presenter feeling patronized by a couple of white guys is a much more pressing issue,"

Really?

You obviously haven't read my post.

And further to that, POC in this forum have been critical of the ANC many, many times. 

Hope that satisfies.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 May 2018, 08:26
#149
24 May 2018, 08:26#149

Wasn't referring to you Denny, but to Moolaa and Ka Mate washing their mouths out about a country they know little about outside of what makes the newspaper headlines.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 May 2018, 08:40
#150
24 May 2018, 08:40#150

White South Africans must all be racists...forever.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
24 May 2018, 09:18
#151
24 May 2018, 09:18#151
Blobbok, if I were Plum then I’d be demanding the names and addresses of all those M?ori that think the colonisation of NZ was similar to the Holocaust but I’m not that petty. As far as the prison population is concerned, I think they just might be in there for crimes committed.
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
24 May 2018, 09:19
#152
24 May 2018, 09:19#152
M?ori. Not sure how a ? got in there!
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
24 May 2018, 09:19
#153
24 May 2018, 09:19#153
I give up...
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 May 2018, 09:21
#154
24 May 2018, 09:21#154

No problem.

Really wish the non issue of Willemse/Mallet would die sooner than later. Moolaa's argument appears to be based on how SAFFA's are perceived with regards to race, and I can understand where he's coming from, however, on this one he is milking the wrong Bull for the simple reason that it's a workplace issue...incidentally SuperSport concur with my view. Thing that pisses me off was how some quickly jumped on Willemse for being a quota, firstly he wasn't and secondly whether he was or wasn't  has nothing to do with the issue.....besides he had long since retired. Quotaphobic perhaps? As for Kak Mate, well he rolls in from Albany.....population +/- 15,000....they have a shopping mall, they have shopping mall...…they have a shopping mall...

And yes you're right, South African politics is a minefield for outsiders to step into....and in some cases even for South Africans. Outsiders would be wise to give it a miss unless they have their facts spot on.

Pakie I'm horrified about racephobic South Africa.....one day I'll tell you about an experience I had while visiting several years ago, it left an indelible impression on me.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 May 2018, 09:58
#155
24 May 2018, 09:58#155

Extremely racephobic. The sad thing is that I think much of the population (outside of the extreme elements on either wing) wants to move past it and just wants to get along, but politicians and the media continue to fuel the fire. And then you have public figures like Ashwin Willemse doing their bit as well to make sure that race stays firmly fixed in the public sights .

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 May 2018, 10:32
#156
24 May 2018, 10:32#156

Good posts, Pakie.

Racism will never go away. Too many things have been done and said. 

Forgiveness is always a good thing ... but how does one get to it when there's so much bitterness?

The memory of past wrongs will linger for an eternity and generations to come will be reminded of it everyday. Right now we have reverse racism leaving just as many scars.

We must realize that racism comes from both sides. We are all guilty of it.

It's a battle we can't win. Like farting against thunder. 


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 May 2018, 11:45
#157
24 May 2018, 11:45#157

I happened to tune in to the Parliament channel and listened to the debate.   The attack on the White racialist - apparently Mallett and Botha - was vicious and Whits apparently are not South Africans if one listens to the attacks on them.

I am also becoming convinced that the Willemse incident was staged with a view to the Parliamentary discussions this week.   The issue is clearly done to ensure that th e comments are slanted to support players other than Whites.

I am now convinced that in view of the fact that I am not regarded as a South African I will not support any SA team if selected on the basis of race ahead of merit.   .   .       

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 May 2018, 12:28
#158
24 May 2018, 12:28#158

The problem for me is this...

The "original sin" is being used as a smoke screen to nationalise all land/resources and in so doing overcome the main obstacle that normally stands in the way of turning a democratic state into a communist one.


The ANC believe that they will do something differently and that this this time communism will work.

That's the danger that nobody is talking about.

What's even funnier is that the basis of the argument is that wealth will be redistributed so that the present economic heiarchy will collapse and bring rise to a more equitable one. 

When actually all evidence shows that communism delivers exactly the opposite. Few and very much more rich people with a much much larger lower.



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 May 2018, 13:02
#159
24 May 2018, 13:02#159

Maori compared the colonisation of NZ to the Holocaust & with Maori at 15% of the population but sadly 55% of the prison numbers . Shame on you !

Man you kbbs are real bad.  Thanks for the  !nfo Bob.  The poor Maoris!!!!!!! Cant but wonder what other secrets they are hiding  as its clear the kbbs are all serious racists. 

after all their virtue signaling too!!! Caught out big time!!! Hahhahahahahahahaha

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 May 2018, 13:15
#160
24 May 2018, 13:15#160

Plum

Exactly so.   it happened in Zimbabwe and is bound to happen in SA.  In Zimbabwe agriculture and agriculture based industries collapsed and the people are many times poorer now than they used to be.   They used to be the breadbasket of Africa - now they are a basket case with people depending on foreign handouts for food.   Mugabe and the governing hierarchy lived in splendour and circa 90% of the people was without work and live in abject poverty.

In Russia in 1914 agricultural production per head of the population was higher than in 1984.  Fact is even Gorbachev stated that in the 1930's two of his brothers died as a result of starvation..   as a result of that disaster farm workers were allocated half-hectare plots where they could farm and sell the produce.   70% of the food production  in the 1980's came from those small plots making up about 10% of agricultural land.   Problem is that the bureaucrats  were both incompetent and corrupt.  

With present experience in SA it is clear that the bureaucrats are as corrupt and even more so than they were in Russia and countries like Zimbabwe - so what you say about enrichment of a few  is 100% correct.          

 


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