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We all had our moments of enthusiasm about Manie….I remember thinking here is another Larkham. But time has eroded that vision…Libbok  is a rabbit in space, but how much space does Ireland give you. 

Take that away and he is a less than average runner in traffic, tissue paper could mount a better defense, he loses the ball in every game 2,3, 4 times. His game management has never been a strength and he can’t be relied on as the kicker when it matters.

He has failed. We often hear the phrase, he deserves another chance. This man has had 17 chances. He may have a great game in a winning Bok team on Saturday, but we all know that player would disappear if he was in Dublin needing to make a crucial kick.

It’s  ironical that Dave would castigate Harrassmiss for picking a massive contributor like Mostert, while praising him for rewarding Libbok’s performance against the Bargies.

Rassie is crap when it comes to identifying locks other than Eben, Lood and RG. His record is 50% as Orie, Mostert and Nortje are pretenders

I'm sure you forgot to add the utterly useless Moerat.

He  disgraces the jumper.

"...realists just recognize you can’t start a serious test with a player who can’t defend his channel is stripped of the ball and can’t kick when you need him to kick."

Unfortunately that's true...if Saturday was a RWC final...or even a quartar, I would be very concerned...very brave of Rassie still picking him...reminds me of Naqele vuki for the Stormers back in the day.

I'm sure you forgot to add the utterly useless Moerat.

No, Dave rates Moerat. He'll take a limp 120kg six foot sixer over a warrior like Mostert.

Speaks volumes of Rassie who had good reason to dump Libbok which probably would have led to the end of his career instead now there's the possibility of Libbok redeeming himself.

G'onya Rassie.

Edit: Lest we forget

Gavin Hastings believes Scotland could have won the 1991 World Cup had he not missed a crucial penalty in their semi-final against England. Hastings, who is to be inducted into IRB Hall of Fame, said his close-range miss in the 9-6 defeat was his greatest regret from his playing days.

Manie has been suspect on: 

Tackling

Taking contact and losing the ball

Line kicking

Kicking at Goals

Then Mike,

This game plan of playing side to side doesn't suite Pollard. It is also dumb rugby because we are exposed at the breakdown and we get easily out flanked when direction is switched. 

We thrive on keeping the game tight, work off set pieces and grinding teams down physical. 

We don't have the skills or hands when you have Dud the tractor just plowing the ball up the midfield. Kolisi playing wing and not too the ball. 

We need to strike a balance between tactical kicking and gain line dominance. 

We need to strike a balance between tactical kicking and gain line dominance. 

We need players to put their hands up for the amount of faith that's been put into them but that said we also need to have an on field leadership team.

Fly right or fly outa sight.

I don't see it the way you do, perhaps I'm missing something or perhaps you're reading too much into it, question is what would you have done, as for me I would start Manie.

Not saying I prefer him to Manie or Pollard (or the obvious Sacha) but Siya Masuku deserves the next shot.

My opinion, Rassie is calculated in his ways and tries to upkeep his processes, that includes his image.

Sat close to Rassie at a S12 game some years ago, he was the coach, had a look in his eyes that left an impression on me.

Ja, suddenly there's quite a few quality flyhalves around, can't remember his name right now but there's another with a big engine around, played in the Currie Cup semi or final, his surname starts with an M.... very impressive.

Absolutely on my part - unlike you I hate no players and look at their actual performances - and not BS stories spun on site,   Mostert s totally absent at breakdiwn ball proection even backline playes push hom out when he is supposed to stan d firm to pretect ball - but never does.   

These allegations are made all the time by Dave and Clever. Yet when I watch the games I see Mostert as the first tight forward to the breakdown most often. What I haven’t seen, is Mostert being blown out by backline players….I see him protecting the ball, often by himself.

Come up with something credible, something that has some correspondence with reality. 

Then there is the Harrassmiss factor. There are credible reasons he picks certain players.. .Bongi, Kolisi, Manie. There are players whose image is intertwined with his ….Dud Toit.

Mostert is just a soldier. Picking him wins no brownie points politically. But in the WC, when the chips were down, Harrassmiss never picked Snyman the most talented 5 on the planet. He picked Mostert because he knew Mostert would help him win.

In Chasing the Sun at one point Rassie says that if he has to choose between a warrior or a better player in a position, he picks the warrior. The one that will keep going and never give up. May explain some selections, but not others.

Denny - Actually rates Mostert and has in the past commented positively on Mostert's work rate and contributions.

I do? I don't believe I have but allow me to give you the benefit of the doubt until you provide a copy and paste of my said comments.

Until then I believe Mostert is a provincial grade second rower.

We can also ask how did Moerat become a Bok? as well as a Bok captain????

Rassie can't be serious.

Mostert played in 72 tests and in that period scored 3 tries - he has serious deficiencies and at the age of 33 - why must he be kept around to fnish his career.   Erasmus wanted Le Roux to reach his 100th test appearance - but hd played in 96 tests - so how and why must Mo stert be kept around to finish his career - while his performances are not really up to standard,   The first test opportunities in 2025  will be in June 2025 when Mostet will be 34 years old,   

He s not irrepacabe and younger and better locks should rather be brought in November 2024 and not in 2025.   .       

Most plaed in 72 tests and n that period scored 3 tries

What on earth does try scoring have to do with anything when you're talking about a lock? I guess Eben is a shit lock then too cause he had only 3 tries after 95 tests.

Ja I agree that's a bit on the nose

so in comparison how many did Da Allende score?

47 Tests 6 tries

Mike may love the game, even be passionate about it, but he is unfortunately 1) utterly clueless about it and 2) fatally biased and 3) dishonest to the point of being a serial liar and fabricator.

Imagine trying to make a point about a lock by quoting try scoring.

Here's a video of Mostert's typical contribution. Ignore the basic stuff like catching kickoffs and taking lineouts that gets highlighted. Watch how he competes at every breakdown - the opposition gets no quick and easy ball when he's involved. Open field tackle on a wing at 1:46. Turning Kitshoff's tackle into a dominant one by driving back the carrier at 2:25 and he's immediately up on his feet again and pushing through the breakdown to disrupt opposition ball. Pushing through the ruck at 3:00 to give the Boks turnover possession. Winning a turnover penalty at 3:33.

This is now apparently the guy that contributes nothing other than regulation tackling. Fuck off.