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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2015, 14:47
#81
07 Jul 2015, 14:47#81
 The Trooth Fairy
This is gross idiocy on your part - if you really believe backlines line up in the way Mozart described here you are talking absolute crap.   Saying it happened for years and years is just plain BS.  
The opposition could line up like that if Morne Steyn is the flyhalf since he never attacked the gain line and is ignored by opposition defenders - but in that case you have a situation where both the 10, 6 and 12 went for the unlucky recipient of the balls when Morne passed the balls.  Against other teams it would be suicidal to ignore the flyhalf completely as is the case of Morne.   
You must have got used to that kind of line-up watching teams in which Morne Steyn played - where the opposing teams line up like Mozart said.  In no other cases will teams follow the kind of Mozart line-up - because it is utterly ridiculous.      
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The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
07 Jul 2015, 17:32
#82
07 Jul 2015, 17:32#82
 Thank you for just once again confirming what we all suspected and expected!

I'll be nice and help you a bit...

This is taken from:

THE PRINCIPLES AND TECHNIQUES OF DEFENCE  IN RUGBY UNION

BY

PAUL WESTGATE

The author is an RFU Level V Elite Coach. He was Director of Rugby at Nuneaton RFC and is now Director of Rugby at Eastbourne College, Sussex. The article is taken from his recent (From 2007 already) lecture to Applied Sports Science students at Loughborough University and he wishes to acknowledge the influence of Phil Larder, former England Defence Coach, Mike Ford, current England Defence Coach, and Ged Glynn, Spanish National Coach.


From page 11...


6. In-to-Out or Drift Defence (Diagram 8)


This is the most common form of defensive organisation and has its origins in rugby league. It requires excellent communication skills. Basically, three players can now defend against four because the defence is drifting across the pitch towards the touchline and can, therefore, cope with the extra man.


From set piece, the attacking fly-half (A1) is tackled by the defending openside flanker, the attacking inside-centre (A2) is tackled by the defending fly-half (D1) and so on... The blindside winger (D5) defends ‘across, up and across’ to cover any line-break. If no extra man comes into the attacking line, the defending openside winger (D4) takes his opposite man and the 13 (D3) comes in to contest possession.


...

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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
08 Jul 2015, 00:02
#83
08 Jul 2015, 00:02#83
I have explained defensive systems to Michael before, he calls it BS. Once he has an idea it lodges in his mind like a splinter. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jul 2015, 00:12
#84
08 Jul 2015, 00:12#84
Well that's pretty much a perfect description of what happened here......Cat on Toomua....de Allende on Kuridrani and then oops, off Kuridrani.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jul 2015, 10:00
#85
08 Jul 2015, 10:00#85
 This of the Trooth Fairy has nothing to do what happened in the Brumbies game and everything to do with defending against overlaps that was not the case in this case.  Incidentally the defense in such circumstances  is helped along by idiotic skip passes that is the forte of Frans Steyn.
What Mozart has written in this case is utter BS and has been proven by the video - De Allende was lined up to defend against Toomua.   Mozart's lie was the only means to exonerate De Jongh for avoiding making a tackle attempt and find a way to blame De Allende for missing the tackle on Kuridrani - which never was a heads-on tackle attempt as claimed by Mozart, but a tackle from the side.    This kind of disinformation is a joke - so noticeable whenever the dunces on this site tried to publish their misleading info as to what happened during games.
Anybody believing the BS Mozart and Desert Disaster write on this site - are being deceived and stupid if they believe the BS.     
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Jul 2015, 11:55
#86
08 Jul 2015, 11:55#86
In Mike's fantasy rugby world 12 always defends against 12 and 13 against 13. In real rugby, defenses drift and adjust, like happened in this case, with 10 on 12 and 12 on 13. Trying to get the blind to see is, as ever, a fruitless pursuit.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jul 2015, 13:06
#87
08 Jul 2015, 13:06#87
 Pakie
Drift defense happens all the time - but that happens after the passing game of the opposing team is in process not when defenders line up initially.    Mozart said that De Allende was lined up to defend against Kuridrani - which was absolute BS.      
Fact in this case is that De Jongh did not drift out - he should have gone to tackle Kuridrani in the first case - but vanished from sight.   That caused the need for De Allende to run from the inside to try and tackle Kuridrani in the total absence from a tackle attempt by De Jongh.
You are blind if you see that players lined up  initially as Mozart  said.  And it is a fool who said that drifting defense was in fact applicable in this case.  You are making a general statement about something that normally happens while the opposition is passing the ball - not when the players line up initially.   In defense it is the function of each defender to do his duty in defense - when one player failed to even try to defend, another player is put at a disadvantage since he must cover the failure - as happened in this case. 

      
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