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Lomp injures himself

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18 Oct 2015, 14:06
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18 Oct 2015, 14:06#1
Lood de Jager against Wales

The Springboks could be without Lood de Jager as well as Victor Matfield when they tackle the All Blacks at Twickenham next Saturday, reports JON CARDINELLI in London.

On Sunday, Bok team doctor Craig Roberts confirmed that De Jager and Bismarck du Plessis sustained injuries in the quarter-final clash against Wales. De Jager appears to be the biggest concern at this point, and a call on his availability will only be made later in the week.

‘Lood injured a tendon in his foot,’ said Roberts. ‘We just have to wait and see how it settles over the next few days before making a decision. The good news is that there is still time for Lood to recover.

‘Bismarck has a nasty laceration on his hand, which was caused by Francois Louw accidentally standing on it. It’s been stitched up and is still swollen, but I’m confident Bismarck will be ready for the All Blacks.’

De Jager has been one of the Boks’ best players at this tournament. Losing the lock to injury at this stage would be a big setback to the team’s World Cup ambitions.

Roberts confirmed that Matfield is yet to be cleared of his hamstring ailment. Matfield has battled with the injury since the Rugby Championship Test against Australia in July. The 38-year-old aggravated the injury in the pool clash against Samoa.

If both De Jager and Matfield are ruled out of the coming semi-final, the Boks will have to turn to their third-choice No 5. Pieter-Steph du Toit is yet to start a Test in this position.

‘We may have to bracket a few guys together [when the team is announced on Wednesday],’ said Roberts. ‘Obviously we want to give them as much time to recover before making the final call.’

Photo: David Rogers/Getty Images

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18 Oct 2015, 14:07
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18 Oct 2015, 14:07#2
 Stephanie starting against the All Blacks in a WC semi.....this has to be the ultimate nightmare.
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18 Oct 2015, 14:16
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18 Oct 2015, 14:16#3
Well, this will be interesting. 
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18 Oct 2015, 14:27
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18 Oct 2015, 14:27#4
Look you two have got it all totally wrong regarding Lood what makes you hopeful you might possibly have it right re Steph. BWAHAHAHAHA wee victor is the nightmare. That has been proven. Send the show pony.home Now.
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18 Oct 2015, 14:31
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18 Oct 2015, 14:31#5
 Lomp was pretty bad in that second half, but even then Stephanie was worse. And who would be our bench lock? Serves us right really....the selection of Stephanie was a public relations act. 
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18 Oct 2015, 14:32
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18 Oct 2015, 14:32#6
 I say leave Stephanie on the sidelines with her pom poms cheering the boys on. Vic to start and anybody but Steph on the bench. Rugby is a mans game, same goes for Lamebie!
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18 Oct 2015, 15:49
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18 Oct 2015, 15:49#7
Wrong
The ultimate nightmare would be Matfield included in the team.     
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18 Oct 2015, 15:53
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18 Oct 2015, 15:53#8
I know, because Vic is a winner. And any chance of winning will rob you of the chance to attack your pet peeves and Meyer. Sad life you lead.
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18 Oct 2015, 15:57
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18 Oct 2015, 15:57#9
 DF
Matfield a winner - remember the line-outs in the AB test matches - that was no sign of a winner.  Then in the last two tests he started and played through for the Springboks - both amtches were LOST.   Matchwinner my A R S E - he is nothing of the sort.  
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19 Oct 2015, 12:08
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19 Oct 2015, 12:08#10
Give me PSDT over useless Matfield anyday......no contest  
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19 Oct 2015, 13:20
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19 Oct 2015, 13:20#11
 The heading is typical Mozart BS - no player injures himself.   
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19 Oct 2015, 13:21
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19 Oct 2015, 13:21#12

Well given Lood played to the end, chances are its not too serious hopefully. He had yet another powerful game.


If Matfield starts we can kiss the semi goodbye  

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19 Oct 2015, 13:27
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19 Oct 2015, 13:27#13
 Actually old fruit, if you injure a tendon in your foot it's usually because you yourself have applied too much pressure....not because of pressure applied as in the case of knees. Hence Lomp injures himself is correct. 

If Stephanie starts NZ will might actually beat the Boks....a boy in a man's world.
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19 Oct 2015, 13:32
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19 Oct 2015, 13:32#14
Providing he hasn't torn a ligament he should be fine, bur they aren't saying exactly how severe it is. 
Steph will be toast. Steph is more like the Retallick kind of locks but without the physicality, which makes him to a large extent unusable at test level. One of those passive types to boot.
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19 Oct 2015, 13:33
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19 Oct 2015, 13:33#15

No is useless lightweight Matfield starts for the Boks we will lose the semi


PSDT is as good as Lood is


Saying Lood was poor in the second half is utter rubbish......he was yet again outstanding and was in fact better than Etzebeth.


Best lock on the park by some distance......his only cock up was running with the ball in one hand and losing control.......only blemish of the day  

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19 Oct 2015, 13:40
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19 Oct 2015, 13:40#16
 Mozart
If Matfield ambles along in a game with nobody near him and injured his hamstring - did h injure himself as well?
Now for your comment - I would rather a boy trying to do a mans work, than a man incapable to do a mans work anymore.  
Matfield has become a liability - a serious one at that - in the Tight 5 and reduced it to a Tight 4.  That means we lost our competitiveness up front and that ould mean a loss by 10 points more than would have been the case with any other player in the lock position.   
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19 Oct 2015, 13:40
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19 Oct 2015, 13:40#17
 Lomp was increasingly confused and panicked as the match went on.....Etzebeth was much more physical.
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19 Oct 2015, 13:45
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19 Oct 2015, 13:45#18
Bullshit he never panicked at all and Etzebeth was not more physical......both were good, but Lood was better.....best lock on the field yet again  
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19 Oct 2015, 13:48
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19 Oct 2015, 13:48#19
 Eben smashed over the gainline at will, at one point he went right over a sorry Welshman making several metres. Lood was either held up or went sideways in contact. The line speed of the Welsh exposed his lack of acceleration and speed. He couldn't get going at all. But Eben had explosiveness. Perhaps Lood needa to change his training routine. 
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19 Oct 2015, 13:50
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19 Oct 2015, 13:50#20
Bullshit Lood did as much bashing as Eben did......but kindly provide that stats to back up your bullshit 
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19 Oct 2015, 14:00
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19 Oct 2015, 14:00#21
 I don't look at stats, I look at film. The footage never lies. 
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19 Oct 2015, 14:00
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19 Oct 2015, 14:00#22

The Stats confirm the lies above


Lood, got the ball 11 times, made 7m.....made 10 tackles missed none, made 1 line out steal, 2 turnovers conceded


Eben got the ball 13 times, made 6m......made 5 tackles missed none, no line out steals and conceded 2 turnovers as well


Game over......Lood was slightly better - FACT  

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19 Oct 2015, 14:05
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19 Oct 2015, 14:05#23
 I can splice some footage. But right now I can reference two incidents, the two attacking movements where Lood lost the ball. He was going sideways. There was another run where he was driven backwards. I didn't see Eben take a step backwards all game. As I say, footage never lies. Stats are fallible and not seldom accurate. 
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19 Oct 2015, 14:12
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19 Oct 2015, 14:12#24
 Dave
DG look at footage and then interpret in in a weird way only he can come up with.   He is onto De Jager all out and so is the thought-deficient Mozart - all because of useless Matfield.  
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19 Oct 2015, 14:20
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19 Oct 2015, 14:20#25
  "Lomp injures himself"

After falling over 46 times.
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19 Oct 2015, 14:22
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19 Oct 2015, 14:22#26
 Actually, I said Lood was a good player. I said that from last years Super XV, but he isn't perfect. You have to go all fangirl over players and over exaggerate what they can so and what they have done. Lood was exposed against Wales. There is no agenda, it was just a plain as day fact. I also said that he would fair better against NZ in spite of that showing. So where's the agenda? Though I must point out your mission to get rid of Victor for no other reason than his age. Now that is by definition an agenda. You will cover up flaws in players so long as it helps you attack Victor. That's an agenda. LMAO! Always guilty of what you accuse others of doing. 
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19 Oct 2015, 15:13
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19 Oct 2015, 15:13#27

Footage is backed up by the stats......its a load of absolute bullshit that Etzebeth was anymore effective moving forward than Lood was......reality is that for a lock to gain 7 or 8m in a game is good as all of that is in contact......these two bash their way forward and inevitably carry a defender or two with them in the process.


Lood made double the tackles Etzebeth did and was marginally better carrying the ball......one line out steal confirms the slight edge Lood had over Eben......both were good, both were better than their opponents and Lood was the best of the 4 locks on the field.


His only mistake was trying to carry the ball in one hand once.......that was silly and it ended in a turnover, the second turnover was not his fault.......in trying to place the ball, someone leg of arm got in the way, which caused the ball to escape the support player.


Lood had yet another strong game  

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19 Oct 2015, 15:20
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 Footage is standalone fact. Stats are too subjective. Even you have questioned metres registered in stats, quite a few times in fact. And tackle stats are mostly wrong. Stats aren for the most part useless. Unless of course you breakdown you criteria. Such as having several subcategories for tackling, so that you can see whether the tackle was primary or assist; lateral, head on or from behind the attacker; metres won in the tackle; offloads in the tackle and turnovers won from tackle ruck. These would tell you far more and make thos raw data far more useful. But that requires so much work that you may as well watch the film. As it is, too much requires video scrutiny that it makes observation of stats a waste of times. I have caught many posters out because they make assumptions based on stats. 
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19 Oct 2015, 15:26
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19 Oct 2015, 15:26#29
Lomp lumbers into opponents on the assumption size will win the day...against Wales he lost the ball twice in try scoring positions doing that. The free ride is over, he will now be facing real opposition as in Durban. From here on I anticipate he will be adequate, nothing more. Still thats better than Stephanie who will be inadequate.
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19 Oct 2015, 15:50
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Oh bullshit, try scoring my arse.....Etzebeth lost the ball twice, Schalk, Louw, Bismark and Jannie all lost possession


So stop speaking crap.....what makes Lood's loss of possession any different to these other players......fuck all.


Lood was the best lock on the field.....far better than the insult who is Matfield


Lood has made your name mud Moz.......just like PSDT is going to


PSDT is a better prospect than Matfield at the same age

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19 Oct 2015, 16:03
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19 Oct 2015, 16:03#31
 I  will be mightily relieved when this WC is over - I would never have to watch the failed lock again.  
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19 Oct 2015, 16:18
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 They were turned over. Lood dang goofed up and dropped the ball. In a game of so few opportunities two of our best attacking opportunities were ruined because Lood was careless with his clumsy paws. Great. I could only imagine what would have been said were that Victor. 
Your relief will be short lived Michael. You will a whole year of habing to defend mediocrity. Your date with the golden shplott beckons!
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19 Oct 2015, 16:28
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19 Oct 2015, 16:28#33

Best attacking opportunities???????? What utter garbage


A drop is not good enough, but then neither is a turnover.......in both instances you concede possession......so don't come tell me one is worse than the other because one of the guilty parties happens to be Lood


I see through you stupid clown s 

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19 Oct 2015, 16:55
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19 Oct 2015, 16:55#34
 You don't seen past your red squishy nose Dave. You sir are the clown. If you are telling me simply dropping the ball is equal to being turned over under pressure then you are clearly biased. Lood is sloppy in contact. New Zealand are putting an emphasis on stripping attackers of ball. What do you suppose would happen if we planned on using Lood as our primary carrier and he does this again? Nothing good.
To think of it, the Boks could have gone home early because Lood couldn't handle the ball securely. Shocking. But what's new? The youngsters get a free pass.
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19 Oct 2015, 17:02
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19 Oct 2015, 17:02#35
 DF
I do not have to defend mediocrity at all in future.  I have seen enough mediocrity in Matfield when I had to make a constant correction of the far-fetched garbage written about him by you and clueless Mozart.  The constant refrain Matfield was tops in 2007 - so he must still be good at present is the garbage I refer to.   .    
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19 Oct 2015, 17:06
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19 Oct 2015, 17:06#36
 I have never brought up 2007. I'm talking now. Please tell me what Lood brings to mauls again? LOL! 
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19 Oct 2015, 17:26
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19 Oct 2015, 17:26#37
 Twice as much as useless Morne does.      
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 Desert Fox
 
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October 19, 2015, 17:06:17

 I have never brought up 2007. I'm talking now. Please tell me what Lood brings to mauls again? LOL! 


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 Twice as much as useless Morne does.     


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19 Oct 2015, 17:54
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19 Oct 2015, 17:54#39
Initially when I heard Bismaark was injured, I though Lead Head stood on him.
H owever it was actually Franscious Louw that stood on him. 
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It sort of comes out autonomously these days. 
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