So Carbuncle...

....tell us more about Stephanie and how is a dominant lock. I trust you saw that flaccid performance yesterday.  I sense another Maakniks moment.

 According to Michael, Steph was monstrous at the breakdown, on defence and in carries. He let s himself down by lying.

 Steph is the "dream afraid of waking"

 Dave you must realize by now that you are dealing with two prejudiced idiots - who see nothing if they prefer not to.  

It is a laugh......PSDT had a perfectly good outing given he was only on the park a quarter  

Steph was reallt good. Dr Mozzz and Card getting it wrong again. Its like some screws have come lose. Their comments re Kriel were hilarious. ou Card thinks kriel was better than Allende who was useless but was in.fact man of the match. Dr Mizzz take was as bad. hahahahaha.

 Ah Beeno, did I pass judgment on Damians performance? I don't believe I did! I actually only commented on the try being soft, and it was.

Errr, Desert Fox, I believe Beeno addressed his comments to "Card" so I wonder why you are responding

 Soft or not - the try represents good play on De Allende's part.  His role in one of the Habana try was equally good.  

Card is an abbreviation of my old username . Alucard. He was addressing me.

 Yes, the list of ids is long: Desert Fox, Sun Tzu/Aristocrat/Alucard...

 I never got to use Alucard here. Had to find something else and went through Zaibatsu, Requiescat, derAristokat on one account and the Sun Tzu on another. Liked that one too but I cannot access it anymore, so went with Lestat on this and finally Desert Fox. First one I really like more than Alucard.

 Mike, that was a soft try, yes, but I've seen easier one's fumbled. Habana's one springs to mind. Silly missed pass, tapped back. DdA had to pick it up, decide on the line to attack, and then accelerate and slip through 3 defenders. Easy for most good players, but many still fluff it.
OP. Moz, no real test for PSDT's abilities, but flaccid performance it was not. 

 Fact is Fox you and Mozzz have been on Damians case.But not only Damian, also:Lood, Malherbe and  Kriel - 4 great young players. Koch was trashed after illegal Argie scrumming.But the biggets blunder is still supporting wee victor 105 kg.Anyhow it has kept the oaks at it Hahahahahahahaha

 Hmmm, I was actually one of the first to point out lood and said I was impressed with his debut. I have been very balanced throughout in assessing all of our locks. But things are being attributed to Lood that are not true. He is all of a sudden a breakdown enforcer, when in fact is anything but. He has pros and cons to his game and I have been discussing them. But at the same time Vic is being made to be a disease. He is to blame for our scrumming, despite our scrumming issues existing no matter who we play at lock. And he is now a problem in the maul? Incorrect. He has a more rounded game than Lood and offers better security at lineout time and particularly on defence behind what is a very frail midfield defence.
As per Damian, I have gone over his game in detail. I know inside centre best of all the positions and have been very systematic and consistent in highlighting issues in his game. So far the fangirls cannot tell me why they like Damian. He cannot tell me very much about his game at all which leads any rational himan being ro conclude that they are merely bandwagon junkies. And if Damian costs us the WC then Meyer will take the rap and Damian will get off scot free.
Maalherbivor is inferior to Jannie. We cannot secure quality first phase possession at scrum time when he is on. And I haven't seen much else in general play to warrant his ascension to starting tighthead.

Fox stop speaking shit man your tale on DA is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever read. Don't kid yourself that you know centre play for you clearly don't.  Look no further than you ignorant take on useless Barry but the icing on the cake is Kurandrani being better than BOD.
You know fuck all about what constitutes a good centre if you benchmark is boring Barry.
As for lock...Flip over Lood says it all - another clanger  

 Fox, you did not even rate Eben as a starter earlier this season. I think you preferred Flip. As for Malherbe...I prefer Koch and one of the Lions, but prefer Malherbe to any of the other 3's that played under Meyer. IMO Coenie shouldn't be near a Bok team.

 And you do for thinking JJ was the best Bok 13 since readmission? Or Taute was a sure bet. Or Serf and JJ being the best centre pairing in Super rugby! Or Murray? Or your long list of nobodies that are guaranteed to be successful at test level? One by one your picks blow up in your face. You cannot tell me when Damian made one strong tackle at any point this year, or who he supposedly ran over. You flat out denied Australia exposed him when they got two tries - including the match winner - through him! Dave you live in a fantasy world full of contradictions and errancies. If Damian is by far the most powerful 12 in the game, therefore of all time, then what kind of freak of nature must Kuridrani be to do what he did not only to the Boks, but Damian? BOD never had a test like that against any SH superpower. Heck, he got bettered by Kirchner in 2010, LMAO! Great player, best of his generation and one of the best of all time but Kuridrani is the better defender and attacker.

 Crikey Moz who the blue blazes is "Carbuncle" ? Man cannae keep abreast of whos who .

 Put it this way WD he knows who he is. 

 Dave if you think there is nothing worse than a liar....a finding which clearly doesn't apply to Fox who provides huge detail to back up his statements.....how in blue blazes can you partner with the creepy Queer? Nobody has lied more often with less skill.

 The Skunk of the site is  the biggest liar of the site.  What makes it worse is that when one of his numerous and constant lis has been exposed as a lie - he does not go quiet on the issue - he shamelessly keep referring to the exposed lie as a fact.  Absolute low life skunk Mozart is and always will be.     

 Hey hey hey lighten up you grumpy old men!No need for all this vitriol.

 Tolkien provided even more detail. Doesn't make it the truth though.

Y ou choose what you want to believe Draad, but if you want to go that way, you are going the way of fiction. 
Dave, you need counseling! Something to suppress that seething rage. I found Michael's thread and I will inevitably track down your post too. I have the patience. 

 DF
I enjoy your threads because some are just about the most hilarious.   You have been rating Kuridrani a better center than BOD - but thus far during the WC he was desperately poor in the two matches he played in.   I am going to giv you the following stats and my comments on it:-
Kuridrani0/000/2/1348120010/50/021/0



"Mozart shout and scream about De Allende - and so does Desert Fox - but the above looks ugly for the best center in the world - according to them.  
*    Is he tractoring?*    Is he weak in his upper body - 1 line break and 2 defenders beaten?*    Is he being targetted by opposition teams? *    Does he like to give away penalties and donate yellow cards?
If the above was De Allende's stats we would have got books written about it on this site and it would have been quoted over and over."
You have avoided the above discussion like a plague.   One wonders how you manage to state that you are an expert in evaluating center performance - when you foul up by stating that Kuridrani is so wonderful.    
Incidentally - I also liked Barry as a center - but his contribution was basically as a defender - for the rest he was never better than average.  He definitely was better than  Francois Steyn as a defender - but Barry was better than Steyn on attack.  But then since 2012 every other Springbok center used by Meyer was better than Fransie on attack.  
My own conclusion is that you and Mozart has the same idea about backline functioning - the only role of backlines is defense - attacking play is merely by accident - not required from players outside flyhalf or by a stretch inside center - whose only attribute need to being a boot kicking away balls - irrespective of how inaccurate or aimless the kicks are.  If players have the latter attribute (having a good boot) - nothing else really counts - hence your rating of Morne and Steyn as top class players.
It is funny how you and Mozart also have the attitude that major rule changes made by the then IRB in 2008 had no impact on the game and that rugby performances has not changed since.  The fact that the NF teams playing style has also changed has gone totally unnoticed.   That the fact that there is much more emphasis on keeping the ball in hand than there was in the past is being ignored.     
The other issue is the one that you and Mozart keeps bringing up is the good performances of Matfield and the deficiencies of De Jager.   Fact is that Matfield used to be a lock whose top  attributes throughout his career related to -
*   excellence in line out play - both calling and catching;*   catching kick-in balls by the opposition - rare since balls are not kicked to where the same players are; and *   ball carries and defense wider out.
Throughout his career Matfield never had any grunt and he never really contributed to Tight 5 play where at his prime Bakkies Botha was excellent and the absence of that from his fellow lock coupled to the fact that the rest of the Tight 5 players were above average was not such a major factor.   Matfield was never a player who contributed to Tight 5 play - carrying of balls by him in traffic was non-existent.   The idea of yours to put Alberts in the team as a support to off-set the deficiencies of Matfield in the Tight 5 is really silly and represents the worst possible solution to our forward situation.    
What both you and Mozart lost sight of is that Matfield performances since 2009 has been on the skids.  He is not as good as he used to be in line out work and his ball carries and defense wider out has lost much of its venom.   You refer to Matfeld as an all-round player and one assumes it relates to an all-round lock - which Matfield in his prime in reality never was and is even less in evidence at present..   
I used to rate Matfield for his positive attributes in the past - especially those listed above - but despite your protestations to the contrary - those attributes have been less effective than it used to be.  In view of that our Tight 5 has indeed became a Tight 4 and we have lost our competitiveness  in Tight 5 play and our ability to win matches has declined.   Whenever Matfield was playing at lock that was particularly in evidence and our match losses as a result has mounted.   
In our matches against the AB's, as well as in other tests played there was in particular one element that counted heavily against us - the lack of a third option in line -out players.  That option was not available and there was nobody to contest balls in throws to for instance Read.  That handed a degree of supremacy in line out play to opposition teams.  In the absence of a third option we tried to use Burger and Vermeulen - but that never really was effective.  
When I made a comment about Du Toit being brought in to be a third line out option I got crucified by the two of you.  Under the circumstances a real option.  I would definitely play Du Toit at 7 and Burger at 6 against the AB's and even against the Aussies.  I would not play Matfield against either of those two teams - since he is really not the line-out competitor he used to be.  An example of that was evident in crucial line-outs in both tests against the AB's last year.       .                            

Michael, Australia had probably the toughest pool of the World Cup. Their easiest opponent was Fiji, a team that is still capable of pushing, if not beating, a first tier nation. Pool A contains two teams that have beaten the Boks in their last encounters, and England who, last year, made our side look ordinary. Now you want to compare stats? Australia may sweep pool A and Kuridrani has been very impressive in that attack. An attack most rate the best in the competition. 

 Ahh Moz the 'blue blazes ' was a subtle sign post indeed pointing.......that-a-way ! 

It was a clean cut indeed. On a different subject I believe the Queer is imploding. I have to say its quite satisfying to see he has written a book on me, not a word of which I have any intention of reading. . What a monumentally stupid waste of time. 

It was a clean cut indeed. On a different subject I believe the Queer is imploding. I have to say its quite satisfying to see he has written a book on me, not a word of which I have any intention of reading. . What a monumentally stupid waste of time. 

 I just read up to the emboldened text, he speaks a load of waffle. Extraordinary how much he simply weaves out of thin air! Make an assumption, then go on the offensive. Perfect game plan, who could imagine it could ever be exposed.

 This is standard BS on the part of the Low Life - the biggest skunk ever on this site.  H cannot discuss rugby issues and is imploding himself - since he talks only BS when trying to discuss rugby issues and turn nasty - and viciously so - when eh gets cornered.  He is no asset to this site at all.    

 DF
To an extent I accept the comments on the issue of the strong teams in the pool - but for the rest ZI do not accept that Kuridrani was impressive in the games against Fiji and England either.    Taking into account the fact that both teams mentioned do not have the top class centers in them - the question is - why did he not shine in such company.
Lets be frank - I do not compare stats - I was partly joking with my questions and observations.  Where i was serious is your rating of Kuridrani and his performnce at center in those two games.  To be quite frank - his defense in both games was totally inadequate and he showed preciously little in attacking play.  
Your emphasis on De Allende is a repeat of what you normally write about him - to be quite frank rarely consistent with facts.   Insofar as carrying the ball up - with respect - it is garbage.  There is no center that more frequently carry up balls directly than De Allende and his effectiveness in doing that is rarely stopped by less than two or three tacklers.  You apparently refuse to recognise that fact.  How many defenders - inside centers and other backline players does De Allende has to beat when going direct up against them before you realize you are wrong.  He has done that to SB Williams, Nonu and Francois Steyn - to name just a few of the top ones and went through them (matter of fact the way he disposed of Frans Steyn was a joke) but you refuse to accept it as factual.    
The issue where I think you are wrong is your apparent disagreement with the following issue:-
 "As the video clearly shows, Damian attacks the spaces between defensers or weak shoulders, and typically one on ones against forwards."  
A center who only carries a ball up - as you call it - is effectively an ineffective center or not  a center at all as clearly stated by Plumtree iro Francois Steyn.   If he is unable to vary his style of play such a player is highly ineffective.   Players who only carry the balls up and not try and beat an opponent by concentrating on spaces between defenders are NOT real international centers.   The Aussies target that more than they target anything else - hence their effectiveness.  
Sorry - but I seriously disagree with you on this issue.         

 
Mozart ... your attempts at vindicating Matfield's selection is bordering desperation.

Running down the other talented, YOUNGER locks in the country isn't going to change what Matfield's become.

Meyer has made a habit of playing guys out of position. He's done this deliberately to vindicate the inclusion of his favourites.

Play the man out of position a few times and then slot him back in where he belongs and if he takes a little long to settle then it's cause he's useless ... "I told so"

That's the only way he can justify his bum chum's inclusion.

Much like you, he doesn't like PSDT because he's a threat to Matfield's reserved spot ... same goes for Pat "The Friggin Awesome" Lambie ... any old excuse to bring "skop verskrik" Steyn in.

You like Fat Fransie ... and because you do suddenly De Allende is not test material.

No other reason than trying to make room for you favourites.

You like the weakling Jannie and because you do, Malherbe or for that matter any and every other tight head is substandard.

I've heard it all before.

You are an open book to me. You've become such a bore.

Bring back the Mozart of old. He was at least an interesting challenge.

Quick, witty, funny at times, sharp!! Now we have to contend with ... another Fox type.

 Off topic but theres a "Rooinek" writing on "The Roar " who sounds rather like the Ruckers Rooie .he wrote a piece about Schalke Burger .

 Low Life skunk
It is wise for you not to read what I wrote - because it cuts your BS contributions to pieces.  Someone must bring some reality to this site - since you clutter it up with BS.

Michael, Damian barely stresses defences. One man may initially slip a tackle, the second defender gets him and at most they have one or two players in a ruck whilst we usually commit more just to win the ball back and the defence is set. Nothing created. And he has carried the ball up directly ONCE in the WC and he tried it in the RC and was stuffed each time. Find me an example of a hard running 12 roping in defenders. 

 DF
You really are convinced in your own mind about De Allende and it is clear that everyone else commenting on him is delusional and you are right.    The opposition may target him because he is considered to be dangerous - so that shows they also regard him as dangerous.
There is no indication that any of the opposition 12's or team has sussed him out as you claim at all.  He still have an impeccable record insofar as line breaks and defenders beaten are concerned.   
Be it as it may - I really think you are talking crap - so lets leave it there