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The Folau try.....JJ again at fault

Started by Mozart107 REPLIES994 VIEWS· 22 Apr 2014, 19:27
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Apr 2014, 17:25
#81
24 Apr 2014, 17:25#81

So finally another poster who sees the king has no clothes. Contact at the 22, AC down 12 metres out from the line ......a long passage in contact. 

 

I agree with BL that JJ did well holding Beale, although I'm not sure why he is drifting backwards. In similar situations we have seen centres like Jean, O Driscoll or Conrad Smith rush forward and smother the passer.

 

Then when Beale passes, given he has chosen the drift approach,  he had to make a clinical tackle.....he had the time to do that. In fact going low would have been the normal centre reaction.

 

But given he went high...how did he do. As we now know it took him 8 strides to bring AC to the deck. And Dave says a smother tackle was the order of the day. But did he smother him or get an arm around to interfere with the release? Nope AC was able to make his pop pass as easily as if he was playing with a group of kids on a Sunday afternoon.

 

So I raise the questionable tactic of drifting back, the failure to make a clean tackle and the poor execution of the smother tackle. One has to conclude if an opposing player is in space near our line guarded by JJ, we are in peril, just as we saw with Bosch and Barrett last year.

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
24 Apr 2014, 17:33
#82
24 Apr 2014, 17:33#82
 Moz, there is nothing you can tell Dave. He dont wana hear it when it comes to JJ but lets take the same passage of play, change the army style camo jersey to a blue and white stripe, make the defenders skin brown and call him Juan De Jongh and the malkop that is David will agree with us. Serfontein and JJ can do no wrong in his alcohol pickled eyes!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Apr 2014, 17:40
#83
24 Apr 2014, 17:40#83

Moz your take on the JJ tackle is a load of rubbish......but what is even funnier is you cuddling up to the halfwit for support......stop aiming so low bud.

 

 

Old Chicken has the IQ of........well a Chicken!

 

 

Steer clear Moz  

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
24 Apr 2014, 17:44
#84
24 Apr 2014, 17:44#84
 Good one Dave..As low as mi IQ is, I would still never portray myself as a little hound doggy over the net!!
http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2013/04/24/meet-sharksworlds-new-spoon/

Have a read Dave..Its hilarious!!
TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
24 Apr 2014, 17:47
#85
24 Apr 2014, 17:47#85
The longest metre EVER!

 Initial Contact:


The technique... LOL!


The offload:


The tackle is "complete" - (Knees touching ground)

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Apr 2014, 17:53
#86
24 Apr 2014, 17:53#86
Thanks T ruth....there it is....Dave and Maaaik totally exposed 
BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
24 Apr 2014, 17:59
#87
24 Apr 2014, 17:59#87
 Let me caption those 4 pics for you The Truth.
Pic 1: Where'd you think you going my bru?? I got you!!Pic 2: Whooooops...almost!!Pic 3: Ag nee my fok..Houggie HELP!!!!Pic 4: Dankie Houggie maar waar is die bal?
Yeah Dave..He was brought down immediately..if him and AAC had a deal that he will immediately drop 12m out!!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Apr 2014, 20:01
#88
24 Apr 2014, 20:01#88
Yeah all of 3 steps not 8 and 3 thanks to forward momentum - game set and match......8 steps my arse  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Apr 2014, 20:51
#89
24 Apr 2014, 20:51#89
 The photos prove one thing - Mo zart was talking uttter bullshit again.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Apr 2014, 22:38
#90
24 Apr 2014, 22:38#90
It's not going to work Dave....as for the lying Oom, his credibility is totally shot with his deceptive practices on here. You might want to think about getting yourself more intelligent support Dave. 
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Apr 2014, 22:43
#91
24 Apr 2014, 22:43#91
Pffffffft! The board's most dishonest, manipulative and deceitful fork-tongued serpent calling someone else a liar!
LMAO!
"Irony" doesn't quite cover it!
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Apr 2014, 01:00
#92
25 Apr 2014, 01:00#92
I'll be surprised & disappointed if JJ remains in the Bok setup .
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2014, 01:14
#93
25 Apr 2014, 01:14#93
Poor old Rooinek I really did "shake you up considerably" to quote the words of the great Willie.....and you are so full of vinegar that you can't even remember that it was you who perpetrated the big lie about your identity. Slope off to the bar lush and drown your sorrows.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2014, 01:18
#94
25 Apr 2014, 01:18#94
Blob the challenge for JJis learning how to make a low tackle....he doesn't have the upper body strength to pull off the smother tackle. I'm now reasonably convinced that will never happen.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Apr 2014, 02:18
#95
25 Apr 2014, 02:18#95
Blobbok, I never took you for a stupid prick but you have just confirmed that......the clue is in your name I guess
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Apr 2014, 02:19
#96
25 Apr 2014, 02:19#96
Blobbok, I never took you for a stupid prick but you have just confirmed that......the clue is in your name I guess
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Apr 2014, 02:33
#97
25 Apr 2014, 02:33#97
Moz the only way AC would have made 8 steps would have been if he was mark timing

As the photo's and more so the video evidence confirms, JJ brought AC down quickly......it was a perfectly executed tackle after having to cover Beale first


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2014, 03:25
#98
25 Apr 2014, 03:25#98

Nice try...but we can all see what happened in the pictures and it's completely different from your description.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Apr 2014, 03:31
#99
25 Apr 2014, 03:31#99
Wrong the pictures show JJ bringing AC down, Folau about to receive the ball with v/Zyl ready for the tackle.......JJ did his job perfectly as he has done all season defensively
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
25 Apr 2014, 03:33
#100
25 Apr 2014, 03:33#100
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2014, 03:36
#101
25 Apr 2014, 03:36#101

Yep he did it so perfectly they scored an easy try.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
25 Apr 2014, 03:36
#102
25 Apr 2014, 03:36#102
JJ is scared....
 He tackles like an Egyptian mummy with his arms wide open and high, dreading to make contact. 
He tries to pull the attacking player down with his weight like a Judo throw, instead of first hitting the attacker hard with the chest area to knock the defender off balance, and then use body weight to ensure the tackle is swift. 
The photos provide a more accurate description of how long JJ takes to get a player off his feet. 
BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
25 Apr 2014, 03:38
#103
25 Apr 2014, 03:38#103
 Ha ha kyk hierdie poes!"...JJ brought AC down quickly....it was a perfectly executed tackle...."
Dave, firstly, do you know what the word "perfectly" means? It is a massive call to use that word in this situation. JJ eventually with help from Hougaard executed the tackle but it was anything but perfect. Perfect suggests it was a copy book tackle. That was certainly not..Get it dipshit?
Secondly, JJ brought AC down quickly. Yeah dave, define quickly here. May have happened "quickly" in terms of seconds but when the first contact is made on the 22 and the man is brought down in excess of 10metres later, that is not quickly. Had they been 10m out, AC would not have needed Folau. To bring him down quickly, he would have needed to wrap his legs up so he can not move forward with this "momentum" you speak of which we all see as 8 steps! Jj did not wrap his legs up. He does not tackle like that. We have seen this over and over again.
Please Dave, be careful of your use of the words "perfect" and "quick" in future ok. The only thing "quick" in your life is your lovemaking and the only the "perfect" is that you are a perfect example to kids of what not to become!
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Apr 2014, 03:39
#104
25 Apr 2014, 03:39#104
JJ had stuff all to do with the try.....he covered Beale and tackled AC

Twatbok, your video shows just how quickly JJ gets AC down you potatoe idiot
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2014, 03:39
#105
25 Apr 2014, 03:39#105
I would add to that BS that he is going backwards in almost every tackle he makes....which is why it's so easy to make metres after the tackle. I remember at school there were some kids who just couldn't get comfortable with the physical act of tackling. JJ is such a player....he is a 10 metre fault in our defensive line.   
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Apr 2014, 04:46
#106
25 Apr 2014, 04:46#106
 Dave when I think of a player being lowered quickly, I'm think Joggie Jansen -ish , not a tackle that allows the attacker the easiest of offloads .
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Apr 2014, 13:22
#107
25 Apr 2014, 13:22#107
 

Moz, what I find quite astounding is your inability to see the full picture or complete lack of appreciation of the finer arts of the game you love. If we take your observations literally we would have to conclude that JJ failed in a head on tackle on AC, for if JJ had met AC head on, he would have stopped him dead in his tracks, something he has done all season with one on one hits.

 

Your observations seem to completely ignore the fact that as a result of the Skelton decoy run, JJ was left to cover Beale first and later AC. Beale attacked JJ, drew him and in the process put AC into space……AC was past JJ, JJ caught him with ease and took him down on contact…….it was that simple. JJ was not left in a one on one situation against AC, he had to effect a lateral tackle from behind after Beale had made the pass. The fact that this part of the equation plays no part in your observation clearly points to your ignorance or hell bent desire to discredit JJ.

 

Fact is JJ effected a good tackle on AC and that v/Zyl was left to tackle Folau, which he failed to do – hardly surprising given we are talking Folau one on one.

 

Moz your take has stuff all to do with the facts

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Apr 2014, 13:27
#108
25 Apr 2014, 13:27#108
Blobbok.......read my response to Moz above and learn  
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