on all 34 felony counts...
The judge appears to have a lot of discretion in his sentencing hearing in 5 weeks.
While many experts believe he will not go to jail for creating false business records, this is also linked to election interference. There is no precedent when combining the interrelated crimes.
Given time has run out for the other trials, Trump must go to jail for at least 4 years.
This is the one chance to put Trump away. The remaining trials would just be icing on the cake
Caitlyn Jenner is leading the fury over Donald Trump 's conviction on all 34 felony counts in his historic hush money trial
WOW!
Janee, trumpanzees, ah la allsorts.
Th e case will g/o on appeal and the Judg e and D A will suffer the consequences - they will have been guilty of misdemeanours that will lead to to them being debarred from practicing law in the USA in future.
Aside from that the taxpayers of New York will have to pay Trump's legal expenses in theses cases - it would run to more than $1 billion if the court ruling by Daniels to pay for legal exxpenses iro her claims against Trump is born in mind. The media and their brainwashed idiots will agree he is guilty of what crime? It could not be about influencing the 2016 election at all. The New York State plays no role in federal electionsx - legally that rests wiith the Federal Election Commission who investigated the allegations in 2017 and found nothing illegal about what happened in the case of Trump. If anything illegal happened the Commission would have two ways of dealing with the issue - namely to fine the candidate ;personally to pay a fine - or to report the issue to the Federal Justice Department for prosecution. As an example they did fine Clinton $100 000 for her invovlement in the Steele Dossier based on lies she and the DNC with the aid of the Obama Administration spread on that one and tried to use it in the 2016 election.
The Judge apparently knew it was a political trial and not a criminal one concocted by the Biden WH - after all his daughter was paid $12 million for services rendered to the DNC and his remarks when instructing the Jurists to find Trump guilty even if there was no proof of breaking any law was not proved to exist or having beimg proved, if this ever end up in the Supreme Court all hell will break lose as usage of the judiciary against political opponents leads to dictatorial conduct expectged from a banana Republic - not in a demcoratic country with a proper Constitution. It will be regarded as a dangerous precedent and destructive to democracy and the USA Constitution.
It will have consequeces in the upcoming election rather than to divide the nation even further started by Obama after 2012 and becoming endemic ever since that date. The Democrats must hope it does not reach the Supreme Court before.election day - because the Court may even refer to the Justice Department to charge Biden and his legal team - as well as the DNC with crimes against the US constitution and bar them from future participation in elections and the lawyers conerned from practising law in the USA. The other case of James is going the same way.
Please note that there were actual breaking of the law by Clinton in 2016 - but she was not charged with anything by the Trump Presidency and that was definitely the case in 2016 as proved by Special Council Durham.
The problem for Biden and the Demcorats is that everything the Biden Administration touched turned into shit and they cannot defend their actions in the present election campaign. Inflation is sky-rocketting, law and order collapsing especially the cities - and the Open Border Policy is destroying the USA from within. The fact is that the people are suffering - especially the middle class, the working class and the poor and those are the issues the Demcorats refuse to deal with and they will suffer as a result.
Maladministration and bribery and corruption undermined the ANC in SA and caused them to lose control of Parliament and forced them into a coalition Government. The same result will be happening in the USA in November for exactly the same reasons.
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Guess there goes the retort "but what has he actually been convicted of!"
Please provide the law that Trump broke according to you Stav. Just name it and we can discuss it further from a legal perspective.
Claiming their Master's innocence was expected......it's typical of the Nutjobs.
Probably won't make much difference. People have pretty much made up their mind on him one way or another at this point.
Stay tuned to what is going to take place with respect to this trial verdict Nutters.
Not one legal expert expects that this verdict will hold up on APPEAL.
Setup, setup and corruption that has invested every case against PRESIDENT TRUMP thus far.
This verdict is doing wonders for raising awareness, funds and additional MAGA voters from the Black voters and now the Demorats are going to be held accountable.
Trust you "anti Trumpers" will be able to accept the final honest legal verdict once the appeal is heard.
But I do not for one moment believe you "Lefties" will.
Not one legal expert expects that this verdict will hold up on APPEAL.
Let me fix that for you.
Not one legal/professed legal expert being interviewed on the right wing conversative media I watch expects this verdict will hold up on APPEAL.
Awaiting for the but Alan Dershowitz respon se.
Setup, setup and corruption that has invested every case against PRESIDENT TRUMP thus far.
How utterly predictable.
This verdict is doing wonders for raising awareness, funds and additional MAGA voters from the Black voters and now the Demorats are going to be held accountable.
Trump certainly needs the funds, Biden's campaign is comfortable raising more cash the Trumps. How does a guilty vote in fraud trial involving pretty much entirely white people going to lead more votes from Black people...WTF?
Trust you "anti Trumpers" will be able to accept the final honest legal verdict once the appeal is heard.
Okay just want to clarify, that if he loses the appeal you will accept that verdict as honest?
But I do not for one moment believe you "Lefties" will.
But I do not for one moment believe you "Righties" will.
The site members who carry on about the guilty verdict does not realize this was a politicxal effort to undermine Trumps election campaign and had zero to do with any illlegality by Trump in 2016. If Trump did not run there was zero chance the charges would have been laid. The fact is nobody think this is not a politcal farce and the fact that the Judges daughter got millions from t he Democrats. It will backfire badly on whatever happens on appeal. The fact is the site emmbers does not realize that the New York has zero standing to hear cases of federal election issues and the Judge stopped the evidence on that issue because he was ordered to do so by th e WH and the Justice Department.
One expect that from banana republic dictators and the Federal Courts would chuck out the case as the BS it really is. In any event the porn star is in trouble - she has to pay Trump legal cost in a case where her "evidence ' were not proved - but the present Justice Deprtment would not charge her with the crime involved - they probably corruptly promised to not charge here if she give evidence in this case. What the site idiots do not realize is that the US Government at present is totally corrupt and they use all measures possible from action being taken as to corrupt politicians and public servants.
Not sure what the fuss is, Donnie will be put on house arrest so it's not like he's going to trip himself lu gging a ball and chain.
Be hilarious to see him sentenced to some form of community service. The thought of him picking up trash from the side of the road makes me smile.
I don't claim to be fluent in Shitoric but I have been exposed to it long enough to understand a bit of it and from what I can gather, the 3 site emmbers and the Bride's daughter are going to th iunk thsi8 sis nt for illegala ctfs unless they can provide HR eivddence.
The really frightening thing coming out of all this is that Bozo's multiple felony convictions won't stop him running for president and the brainwashed MAGA-cap-wearing zombies who worship him are probably even more likely to vote for him now that he is a convicted felon.
I'm really surprised that 12 jurors found him guilty on all counts...and the appeal would be interesting...
...yet again legal precedent was set in the way which the prosecutor used a retired porn star and a convicted perjurer to get an ex president convicted of a crime nobody else in history...ever... got convicted of...again...let that sink in.
For MAGA simpletons, Trump has now been elevated beyond Jesus' status.
Jesus only died on the cross once . Trump has fought all of these battles for him.
It is very simple, people need to follow the law.
There will be no election in the USA the site idiots does not realize that the election in the USA will destroy the Democrat Nazi and socialist this year - since the country will not want a Nazi dictator like Biden and his fellwo-Nazi's in charge. They are causing judicial chaos in the country anyway with their usage of illegal systems to get Trump out of the race.
The Demcorats can be equalled with the ANC in S A - they are as corrupt as the local BSters are and they have destroyed the lives of at least 80 million people by impoverishing them through spending sprees and corruption in Government causing inflation. .
I have never seen a case where the countries democracy is being destoryed by the crooks in charge as effectively as it was tried by Biden. The.Democrats know they have zero chance to win the election this year and the tactics they are using set a precedent that would lead to a real dictatorship the present regime tried to implement. That is why the majority of Amricans in an opinoion poll said that Biden is a greater threat to Demcoracy in the USA than Trump is. What they accuse Trump will be doing is what they already are doing themselves.
The site members do not realize the background of what is happening - neither do they understand how dangerous it is in future. Let me explain something to you in plain Emglish, When Bragg and James was elected in 2018 as DA's they were funded by Soros. Their main campaign was a campaign promise they would get rid of Trump by charging him wih crimes he committed, Bragg appointed a panel of lawyers to find evidence of of any laws iro which Trump could be charged with criminally. By 2019 the task team indicated that they could not find anything to charge Trump with and left the task team. Then came along the issue of Trump campaigning to participate in the 2024 election - but in 2020 no action was taken becxause there were no evidence of criminality and the Election Commission would have thrown out the case - as hey did in fact do in 2017. .
The strategy accepted by the Biden BSters was they would start charging Trump with crimes in 2024 as part of the Democratic Party election campaign. Biden was part of the decisionmaking process and they even sent a senior officer from the Justice Department to handle the case since Bragg could not be trusted to handle it. Then whenever the Biden idiot fuck up badly the next day a charge was laid against Trump. It had nothing to do with Trump breaking any law whatsoever - if it was to do with the 2016 presidential election - it could have been handled by a Federal Court after charges were laid by the Justice Department after being provided with evidence coming from the Federal Election Commssion. What happened in the 2016 election was considered by the Election Commission and the allegaiosn against Trump was investigated by the Commission and they found nothing illegal and did not act against Trump in any way. On the other hand the Commission found Clinton guilty of contracentiuon of the Election Law and fined her $100 000,
So what has the present charge to do with the 2016 election - it was a show trial case like found in dicatorships and is typical action to be expected from a corrupt Government. . Bribery and corruption in the USA has reached alarming levels The Demcoratic Party politicians - and especially Biden and Clinton fear that if Trump became president again they would have to answer for the corruption they were and are involved in. They cannot afford that to ahppen - hence the BS they started themselves. That is why not a single site member can answer the question as to what crime Trump committed.
So finally - if a crime was committed in 2016 - why did it take the Demcorats eight years to lay charges against Trump? If they say charges like that could not be laid while Trump was President - the answer is BS - they could have charged Trump in 2021 to 2023, They did not because it was part of the election strategy of the Democrats - they know with their record they will lose the election in 2024 and they acted to prevent it from happening.
There is no provisio for the klind of BS that the site idiot SB came up with - and the BSters cannot stop Trump from campaining - since the fact is they cannot stop it when a sentence by the New York court is under appeal.
The Federal and Supreme Courts will not go along with the BS and the courts will throw it out with nasty consequences as to repayment of legal costs incurred by Trump and debarring the legal representatives partaking in the NY trial case. Nobody would not know that in September 2023 a meeting of the Democrats were held in which they Demncorats decided to deal with the 2024 election. Af ter the meeting they said they have decided on a new election startegy that will be come clear this year, They know that they have fucked up royally in the time Biden was President and they could expect that they will have to face the music if Trump is re-elected as President.
No Snark...Jesus is the Messiah ...Trump is merely a mortal martyr for a political ideal...
All Trump's "convictions" stretches current legal precedent and lefties aren't even curious about it...
"...a president falsifying documents to try and disguise hush money paid to a porn star is not exactly a common occurrence. "
That wasn't the crime...and he wasn't president then...
Clutching at straws once more all the Trump Haters are in for a rude awakening from reports about what the FBI has been doing to cover for old "Tripper" Biden.
Bank records and reports that the Director of the FBI has finally under threat of being a Biden HOLD OUT shown to the Congress members investigating "Crooker" Biden for tax evasion plus holding multiple banking accounts and multiple transfers in a fain and desperate effort to cover his tracks even when he was VP.
Once a crook always a crook.
Trust that you Lefties would also wish to see justice prevail.
I have my doubts........
Wolle weet dit nie, hy's net lief vir Husky...
Draad the word you are looking for is ‘precedent’….’stretches the current legal president’ is truly embarrassing. No need to thank me.
There is never any "precedent" until after something happens.
Trump is the least "presidential" person to ever be appointed as "president".
If someone appointed Jeffrey Epstein or Charles Manson to be president, there would be new "precedence".
And Biden is the least mentally competent…neither of these men should be running.
SB
What does the "least presidential" mean? Does it mean that promoting destruction of your country - such as Biden did - is "presidential"? .
"Draad the word you are looking for is ‘precedent’….’stretches the current legal president’ is truly embarrassing. No need to thank me."
A stupid spelling error twice repeated and corrected...oh, the shame... I'll probably pronounce it wrong too...but a sincere thanks for pointing it out...I'm sure to make similar errors in the future, but not that one...never too old to learn né?
SB
Why is the general opinion in the USA is that Bragg's and Judge"s conduct have caused and contributed to the Trump victory in November 5. People do not want to contribute to the USA becoming a banana republic the Democrats want to introduce.
You mean amongst the rednecks?
You mean amongst the rednecks?
Everyone but for you raving lefty nutters.
FOUR MORE YEARS for President TRUMP to get the country back into shape and leader of the free world.
Trust that in that time justice will take care of the scumbags who have destroyed everything they have touched.
SB
Says the rednecks - you must mean the millionaires and other contributors pouring into the Republicans election funds. Millions came in after the announce of the fake guilty verdict. The people know it was a election scheme of the Democrats - since they cannot defend the disasters they caused for the US people in everything Biden did.
The election will not be influenced by fake court cases. It was the worst election interference in US history and will be regarded as such by the majority USA voters. Only brain washed idiots think otherwise. .
SB
Says the rednecks - you must mean the millionaires and other people and entitiies money pouring into the Republicans election funds. Millions came in after the announce of the fake guilty verdict. The people know it was an election scheme of the Democrats - since they cannot defend the disasters they caused for the US people in everything Biden did.
The election will not be influenced fake court cases. It was the worst election interference in U S history and will be regarded as such by the majority USA voters. Only crain wash ed idiots think otherwise. .