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Atheists are a small fringe movement of loons in the world. Here is the proof.

Started by Beeno165 REPLIES1,374 VIEWS· 06 May 2019, 10:47
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sharkbokCaptain23,218 posts
09 May 2019, 22:39
#41
09 May 2019, 22:39#41
Rugby Australia is trying to sell a product to as many people as possible. They want a team that can get as much support as possible - and represent as many groups as possible (even Christians..). 
If a member of the Wallaby team was posting on social media that Christians worship a false God and are hypocrites and liars etc - it would be offensive. 
This anti-Christan Wallaby may believe this 100% - but expressing it on social media would not serve any purpose.This would be disruptive to the preparations of the Australian world cup. 
Australian Christians would be in uproar - and they would not respect this anti-Christian wallaby player right to freedom of speech - even if it "did not harm anyone".
The anti-Christian player would be subject to to the exact same treatment as Israel Folau....

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 May 2019, 05:49
#42
10 May 2019, 05:49#42
Rugby Australia is trying to sell a product to as many people as possible. They want a team that can get as much support as possible - and represent as many groups as possible (even Christians..). 
Yes, but they should still operate within the confines of the law and not trample the rights of their employees.  I don't know if they are right or wrong, that's for the courts to decide, but to fire an employee in the media before even speaking to him, never mind having a hearing, is plain stupid.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 May 2019, 09:04
#43
10 May 2019, 09:04#43

Old crust fan God is not willing that any should perish but that all should be saved. But guess what you are not actually a Robot, and you can seek God or not. 

Let's get down to brass tacts.  Why are you not saved. What is your excuse. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 May 2019, 11:45
#44
10 May 2019, 11:45#44

Still waiting for any proof beeno. As long as your god continues to hide i will continue as an atheist.

Its up to him, if he wanted to save me why doesn't he?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 May 2019, 12:08
#45
10 May 2019, 12:08#45

You don't want to be saved. You hate God. So God allows you to go your way. 

You insist there is actually no God at all. This despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. 

You prefer the darkness to the light. Jesus said if you seek Him in Earnest YOU WILL FIND. Thus I am assured you have NEVER sought God in earnest. In fact you are very proud of your atheist stance. You think it's being very clever.

But God calls you a FOOL. And indeed you are, only you don't know just how much of  FOOL  you are. Wake old crust you are lost and need saving. There is only One Saviour Jesus Christ - God the Son. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 May 2019, 15:36
#46
10 May 2019, 15:36#46

Well i need more proof than what i have seen so far.

If your god is the all loving then i dont need saving as isn't forgiveness he main thing. If he wants to torture me foe eternity for my beliefs so be it but i will know i am better than your vindictive murderour thug.

The god of your bible does not deserve worshipping

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 May 2019, 16:52
#47
10 May 2019, 16:52#47

Sader, God isn't gonna torture anyone.  He is going to withdraw His Grace from those who reject Jesus. The torture will be self inflicted.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 May 2019, 17:30
#48
10 May 2019, 17:30#48

So what is the difference  to my life now?

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sharkbokCaptain23,218 posts
10 May 2019, 17:32
#49
10 May 2019, 17:32#49
I would prefer people to address God as : "The God I believe in", rather than just as God.
God sounds like everyone shares the same God. I don't like it when people generalize their God as everyone's God. 
The Jew God, The Muslim God, the Christian God are either different Gods, or different interpretations, or just different interpretations within the same religion itself.
Everyone who believes in their own God, thinks the other God's are BS. In fact, religions teach that all other religions are BS.
Like Richard Dawkins says - everyone is at least 99% atheists. 
Imagine Richard Dawkins was in the Wallabies team - that would really annoy the Christians while he posted on social media making jokes of their beliefs during the test season. The Muslims would want to blow him up. Not sure what the Jews would think or do.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 May 2019, 17:33
#50
10 May 2019, 17:33#50

If i go to the pit of fire for eternal torture he might not be doing the actual torture but he is responsible for it. If not then hitler as innocent as he never tortured anyone he just ordered it to be done.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 May 2019, 17:54
#51
10 May 2019, 17:54#51

Someone is drowning. You throw him a life-saver-ring on a rope. He refuses to grab it to be hauled to safety because he doesn't believe in life savers....and then he blames the life saver for not saving him....


Stupid analogy I know, but still...

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 May 2019, 18:05
#52
10 May 2019, 18:05#52

Well i am still waiting for him to throw the bloody rope mate, guess he is asleep on duty 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 May 2019, 18:29
#53
10 May 2019, 18:29#53

Make a nigga smoke a whole sack of dope

Writing rhymes tryna bring back the hope

Try to ride the storm out but crashed the boat

Could've drowned, but I grabbed the rope


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 May 2019, 18:38
#54
10 May 2019, 18:38#54

Man thats some shit weed you been smoking to come up with that

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 May 2019, 18:50
#55
10 May 2019, 18:50#55

It's J Cole

Actually a pretty decent track. 

It's called Rich Niggaz.

Has a nice hook.

How was the hangover?

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
10 May 2019, 19:02
#56
10 May 2019, 19:02#56

Didnt have one but trying again tonight 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 May 2019, 20:03
#57
10 May 2019, 20:03#57

Sader, here is my take, for what it's worth.

Christians don't know that God exists. They don't know that he created everything. They believe he did and have faith in their belief. 

You might have a near death experience and it might shift your paradigm to correspond with theirs. Or it may not. You might lose someone and that may or may not make one sympathetic to religious ideas. You never know. 

All of the above might be totally irrelevant to you and it may also not matter.

The spiritual connection that one can feel to the world around you and the universe at large does not always rely on doctrine or faith to manifest.

Compassion and humility don't need any belief. Sure, habitual religious practices might make you, to some degree, more likely to exhibit those characteristics. Then again, the best sermon in the world might not shift your character one inch either way.

You don't need religion to feel a deeper connection to the world and the creatures that live on it. I know that you already know this.

The fact that you are self aware and feel overwhelming empathy for a wounded animal or are humbled by the power and majesty of nature is proof that even if you don't have a soul, you have an unbreakable and complicated connection to your world.

Your personal respect for the universe is not necessarily a binary affair either.

It's possible to accept that there may be a creator and contemplate your gratitude and respect to it. At the same time you could also wonder about the mystery of a creatorless universe and marvel at the precise and intricate consequences it brought about.

You don't have to choose because either of those paths lead you on a similar path of self reflection and contemplation, ultimately leaving you humbled, grateful and drenched in reverence.

They are both spiritual journeys and the only difference is the details. Christians will say that it's all about the details. Sure, for them it may be. Does what they think make any difference to your journey? Of course not. Let them walk their path.

I realised the above during moment when circumstances brought me, in relatively quick succession, to appreciate power, beauty, mercy and connection. I wasn't in danger, in love or in any other particularly traumatic situation. So it wasn't "lucky to be alive syndrome".

It was an unnatractive unknown women, singing a repetitive chant in a language that I didn't understand. Her voice and the way it changed tone was the vehicle for a spiritual experience that no book, words or habitual practice has ever matched for me.

I could exaggerate and say that I have been a different person ever since, but that would be a lie. 

In reality, I had goosebumps for about 10 minutes and it took some days for me to assimilate the experience. 

What made it spiritual(or as close as I've experienced)?

The fact that to this day I can recall exactly how I felt and if I think about it for a while, those goosebumps come back. The fact that I remembered some of the words she used and when I looked it up I discovered that the chant was about paying respect to creation.  

My feeling is that different belief systems bring people to a similar place. I'd rather discuss that than argue over the details.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 May 2019, 21:10
#58
10 May 2019, 21:10#58

Plum, interesting...there is truth and a mathematical order to the universe...too much for blind chance...having said that, I do believe that we have been deceived and that the "real message" has been hidden a bit....

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 May 2019, 08:58
#59
12 May 2019, 08:58#59

Thanks Cloudy and Draad.

Seems we are able to arrive somewhere semi-positive if we try :)

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SebPro2,680 posts
12 May 2019, 11:45
#60
12 May 2019, 11:45#60

I think I know what Plum means...

Some music is very deep and stirring...this is one, Now we are free from The Gladiator.

Words are meaningful in a wider context...in English captions

https://youtu.be/SD4j1QNOg60

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 May 2019, 14:54
#61
12 May 2019, 14:54#61

Christians don't know that God exists. They don't know that he created everything. They believe he did and have faith in their belief. 

Here Plum goes badly astray. The Apostle Paul met Christ on the way to damascus. Genuine Christians will always say very clearly they know Christ. The Bible says from the least to the greatest they will know me. Jesus says My sheep hear MY voice and the voice of another they will not harken unto.

I had an encounter with Christ which I can never ever forget. All genuine Christians KNOW God exists. Here Plum is guilty of assuming what others know! As I have PROVED again and again, there is every REASON to believe God exists and EVERY reason to dismiss the archaic darwinism that is so discredited today. Outside of China (200 million atheists) there are a mere 250 million or so atheists in the entire world! -who God calls FOOLS!

You have to be completely, disinterested lazy, dishonest etyc and a loon of note to still believe the universe created itself out of nothing. Bwahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahaha man you cant get more foolish than a crazy old atheist!! Or that a DNA strand contains enough information (speaking of intelligence!!!!) to fill 350 volumes of the encyclopedia Britannica and that every cell in the human body has DNA in it. Enough to circle the solar system twice. The stunning, mind boggling scientific discoveries have proven God exists and have destroyed atheism.

The stench of atheism is being dissipated rapidly and expect to see this small fringe group of loons dimminish further as time goes on. Thinking people realise the game is over. Of course if you don't want to know you NEVER will.

What i find telling is that i have posted realms of proof that God exists without any of these atheist nutjobs answering the proof provided. Often these cowardly cretins don't even examine the evidence. Hahahahhahahahaha that is so very, very telling! Game set and m atch!

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SebPro2,680 posts
15 May 2019, 10:39
#62
15 May 2019, 10:39#62
How can they live without Jesus
How can they live without God's love
How can they feel so at home down here
When there's so much more up aboveThrowin' away things that matter
They hold on to things that don't
The world has gone crazy
But soon maybe
A lot more are going to knowFor maybe they don't understand it
Or maybe they just haven't heard
Or maybe we're not doin' all we can
Living up to his holy word'cause phonies have come
And wrongs been done
Even killing in Jesus' name
And if you've been burned
Here's what I've learned
The Lord's not the one to blameFor He's not just a religion
With steeples and bells
Or a salesman who will sell you
The things you just want to hearFor His love was such
That He suffered so much
To cause some of us
Just to follow, followSo many laughing at Jesus
While the funniest thing that H e's done
Is love this whole stubborn rebellious world
While their hate for Him just goes onAnd love just like that
Will bring Him back
For the few He can call His friends
The ones He's found true
Who've made it through
Enduring until the end
The ones He's found true
Who've made it through
Enduring until the end


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 May 2019, 12:06
#63
15 May 2019, 12:06#63

Yes there can no stopping the sharing of the glorious gospel whereby men are saved. 

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 May 2019, 12:18
#64
15 May 2019, 12:18#64

Beeno, you have proven jack shit

With statements like this……"As I have PROVED again and again"

You have only provided your opinion, you have yet to prove a single concept of what is being discussed here

The fact that you cannot even recognize that, is exactly why I don't read much of your Christian preachings and copy and pastes


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SebPro2,680 posts
15 May 2019, 17:01
#65
15 May 2019, 17:01#65

Written by Keith Green who died in plane crash at age 28 in 1982...a musician who turned from drugs way back in seventies

Keith Green biography

It was one of his many songs, here's the one with those words

https://youtu.be/ZOWZGm61HpM


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 May 2019, 17:18
#66
15 May 2019, 17:18#66

Beeno

Is too personal a question to ask what experience you had? 

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