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Biologist says Gum trees to blame in Bush fires

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Jan 2020, 10:28
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21 Jan 2020, 10:28#41
"Sure, there was one, all it needed was for our Prime Minister to withdraw his head from Murdoch's arse to listen to our experts' recommendations. But no, he dismissed having a meeting with them and instead flew off to have a holiday in Jamaica totally dismissive of the pending catastrophe."
Well, Morrison is a card-carrying Trumpanzee who shares Bozo's view that climate change is some kind of hoax. 
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sharkbokCaptain23,216 posts
21 Jan 2020, 11:40
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21 Jan 2020, 11:40#42
The Australian prime minister sounds like a Fox News subscriber that thinks God makes pie in the sky plans, instead of listening to scientists and related experts. 
Given he was on holiday during this catastrophe, he can probably expect to not be elected for another term. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Jan 2020, 12:02
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21 Jan 2020, 12:02#43

He's a Happy Clapper. Murdoch helped get rid of Malcolm Turnbull our ex PM that's how ScoMo landed the job. To this day I can't find anyone to tell me what he did wrong to cause a leadership spill. The word is that Turnbull did something which upset Murdoch and from thereon in he was toast.

One of the recommendations from the fire experts was for extra fire fighting airpower, Oz has 7, in comparison California has 30. The firies realised the necessity for more airpower based on predicted conditions. A single aircraft carries 30,000 litres of water. They did get the required aircraft on loan from the USA but that was after the disaster had started.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jan 2020, 17:02
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21 Jan 2020, 17:02#44

This from a 1915 study:



Research published in a recent issue of the International Journal of Wildland Fire has found that the density of human populations can explain the pattern of fires ignited in New South Wales and Victoria.

"The higher the population density the more ignitions you get," said lead author Kathryn Collins of the University of Wollongong's Centre for Environmental Risk Management of Bushfires.



In five different models, Ms Collins and colleagues found that population density was the main driver of total ignitions at the bioregion level.

"Basically where you get people is where you get your ignitions," Ms Collins said. 

"So there was a pattern of increasing ignitions going from west to the coast as population increases.

"Most of the other factors I looked at weren't significant."

The results held despite allowing for the fact that the higher the population density, the less bush there is to burn.

Interestingly, the researchers also found population density was the biggest factor driving the fires with undetermined cause.

"They're probably largely human driven as well," Ms Collins said.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Jan 2020, 17:11
#45
21 Jan 2020, 17:11#45
"This from a 1915 study:"
1915?
I suspect Moffie is either lying again or he hasn't taken his meds but that doesn't sound like 1915 to me . . . and if it is, what's the relevance?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jan 2020, 17:23
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21 Jan 2020, 17:23#46

Hahaha .....stung! It was a  study done 5 years ago. It's totally relevant. So is this:


Australia's hot, arid climate and wind-driven bushfires were a new and frightening phenomenon to the European settlers of the colonial era. The devastating Victorian bushfires of 1851, remembered as the Black Thursday bushfires, burned in a chain from Portland to Gippsland, and sent smoke billowing across the Bass Strait to north west Tasmania, where terrified settlers huddled around candles in their huts under a blackened afternoon sky.[17] The fires covered five million hectares (around one quarter of what is now the state of Victoria). 



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Jan 2020, 22:52
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21 Jan 2020, 22:52#47
Ummmm . . . so, Moffie, in your little world, the year 1915 was just 5 years ago?
LMAO!
"Stung" he says . . . with a straight face nogal!
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jan 2020, 23:57
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21 Jan 2020, 23:57#48

Nice try.....you weren't even convinced it wasn't a study done in 1915....


.... 'and if it is'!


Waaaaaaaaaaaahahaha.....nobody ever thought you were the sharpest pencil in the box.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
22 Jan 2020, 02:46
#49
22 Jan 2020, 02:46#49

Moz

Do you believe the Black Thursday fires of 1851 were started by arsonists?

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
22 Jan 2020, 02:55
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22 Jan 2020, 02:55#50

This from ex PM Tony Abbott to a conservative US audience....

Abbott said the duration of the current bushfire season may be the longest in Australian history, but past seasons had claimed more lives and burnt out bigger areas of bushland.

"I think the Prime Minister is right: he said climate change may be playing a role in the drought which triggered the bushfires," he said. "But we have to remember that bushfires are hardly unknown in Australia."

Abbott praised Scott Morrison's handling of the fires, saying: "I don't think anyone could fault the extraordinary effort that the Prime Minister has put into responding to the current or now I think starting to recede bushfire emergency.

"In terms of money, time, and commitment of the armed forces it has been unprecedented so all credit to Scott Morrison for what he has done there."

Abbott said that Australia should be praised by other countries for meeting its carbon reduction targets under the Paris climate accord.

"The great thing about Australia is that while we are perhaps not the most enthusiastic members of the climate squad we are actually meeting our Paris targets in a way few other countries do," he said.

"I think we should get more credit when it comes to actually meet our commitments when it comes to reducing emissions."

Australia should take "sensible measures" to reduce carbon emissions but not at the expense of economic growth, he said.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jan 2020, 17:01
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22 Jan 2020, 17:01#51

I have no idea Denny, but it sure wasn't climate change

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