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Bozo's days are numbered . . .

Started by Rooinek177 REPLIES3,327 VIEWS· 26 Sept 2019, 20:20
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
26 Sept 2019, 20:20
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26 Sept 2019, 20:20#1

Bozo is starting to unravel as the evidence of foreign collusion mounts against him in the Ukraine whistleblower scandal.

I've just watched him being "interviewed" but it was more of a rant about the injustice of it all and of course he went on about a new "witch-hunt" . . . but he was visibly shaken and - as stupid as he is - I think he knows he's been busted.

The only surprise is that it's taken this long for the incompetent and deceitful clown to make such a blunder . . . or should I say, for one of his blunders to come to the public light.

Blackmailing the Ukrainian president by withholding an arms deal until he helps dig up some dirt on his Democrat challenger . . . and then hiding the transcript . . . that's a step too far even for someone with the ability to brainwash so many stupid people.

This will sink Bozo and not a moment too soon. A disgraceful, self-serving and very stupid clown who will go down in history as the worst US president of all time.

LMAO!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Sept 2019, 21:54
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26 Sept 2019, 21:54#2

Hahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahaha poor ou rooitwit blunders on. Man this clown just cant stop maki ng a complete jackass of himself!!!

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Sept 2019, 22:11
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26 Sept 2019, 22:11#3
There we go again. Remind us again how the Mueller witch hunt turned out. Didn’t we have a similar topic heading (or two) at the time?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Sept 2019, 01:02
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27 Sept 2019, 01:02#4
This will never sink Trump....it has no legal merit. Trump had every right and responsibility in his role to ask the Ukraine to clarify the circumstances under which a prosecutor investigating Biden's son, was fired at Biden's insistence. Here is the relevant description from the Constitution: THE PRESIDENT AS LAW ENFORCER Powers Derived From This Duty The Constitution does not say that the President shall execute the laws, but that ''he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed,'' i.e., by others, who are commonly, but not always with strict accuracy, termed his subordinates. All Trump was doing was ensuring that the former second in command was acting within the law, which it appears he wasn't. It was actually proper and needed.....eventually the Republicans will figure that out.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Sept 2019, 01:13
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27 Sept 2019, 01:13#5

I said this on another thread:

"I posted about Biden and this issue months ago and Sharkbok, IIRC, told me that if there was something there, Biden’s advisors would have advised him not to run. IMO they were either too thick or too arrogant which is why they were so blasè about it."

It was Devil's Advocate and not Sharkbok, after all, but it's not important. What is important is that I predicted that this Biden issue was going to surface at some stage. 

Now, I would like to predict something else. Watch out for another name that may pop up at some stage during this saga, when everything gets uncovered. Tony Podesta. He was heavily involved in Ukraine. Could he follow in the shoes of Paul Manafort who was also nailed for, among others, shyte during his involvement in UKraine? 

And then, lest we forget, Podesta was Hillary's campaign manager. 


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sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
27 Sept 2019, 01:27
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27 Sept 2019, 01:27#6

It is actually important that I did "not" say that...

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
27 Sept 2019, 01:55
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27 Sept 2019, 01:55#7

Rooi

Dunno if you might already, but see if you can follow Timcast on youtube.

He's a sane centrist and generally out ahead of most of these stories.

There's zero in this one.

In fact, it looks like Trump set the Dems up. 

They're(Dems) now in a pretty kak spot.

They have the votes they need for impeachment, but having  seemingly realised the mistake of launching proceedings on heresy, they're now undecided.

Not a good look.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 07:27
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27 Sept 2019, 07:27#8
"In fact, it looks like Trump set the Dems up."
I have to ask just how stupid and naive someone would have to be to believe that? Seriously.
"They're(Dems) now in a pretty kak spot."
Yes, the naughty Dems are the ones in a kak spot, not Bozo.
LMAO!
Tell me this is a wind-up!

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Sept 2019, 07:45
#9
27 Sept 2019, 07:45#9

"They have the votes they need for impeachment"

From what I read somewhere, the Dems do not have sufficient votes for impeachment at all

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2019, 08:10
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27 Sept 2019, 08:10#10

Very sorry - but this is total BS,   Here we have a so-called whistleblower complaint drawn up by a lawyer working for Senator Schumer - the whistleblowers name is not known, because the lawyer would not provide it to "protect " him and his "sources"  - and made up of allegations about what was said during a telephone conversation with the President of Ukraine.

It contains hearsay allegations based on according to a lawyer  "a number of White House employees" who heard the conversation and told the unknown whistleblower what was said.  

Is it a legal document concocted by the Democratic Party themselves - like the Steele Dosier Clinton paid for a total concoction of lies to hide Clintons own dealings with the Russians and the Ukraine and attack Trump on an issue that never really happened .  The Steele Document was used to set up the Mueller Special Council and a whole team of lawyers and investigators from the Democrat Party and they could find no proof of collusion or conspiracy and claimed that there was efforts by Trump to undermine the Mueller investigation, but could not really find anything and entered a sentence in the report that Trump cannot be "exonerated" from doing it,

The made-up job concocted by Strzok and Comey obviously in collusion of the Obama White House went nowhere and the Impeachment allegations went nowhere.   

The Democrats got scared because of what they themselves did under Obama and had to get  new reason for their Impeachment Campaign - so out pops a new "Steele Dossier" this time compiled by Schumer's lawyer this time around.  And there was in fact no "whistleblower" or if there indeed was one - you can be sure that he was connected to the DP.   

Why did Adam Schiff already said if the mission of the DP based on the "whistleblower" misfired they will fall back on obstruction of justice in the Mueller Investigation.  Why could he do that?  

Why should Trump not enquire about potential criminal activities of Biden and his son in Ukraine in 2016 and how the Ukraine was used in compilation of the Steele Dossier?   He is the head of a government that applies strict adherence to the USA Constitution and has a duty to ensure honesty in Government.

So what is the real objective of the DP here - is it not to cover up rampant corruption under the Obama Administration and it is getting nearer and nearer to that being exposed more fully.        

The Democrats had very little chance of defeating Trump in 2020 - but this effort by the DP is eliminating that little chance.   Voters generally reject victimization and it has happened  in the past in the case of Clinton.                       

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 08:42
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27 Sept 2019, 08:42#11
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Sept 2019, 08:57
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27 Sept 2019, 08:57#12

What a crock of shyte

It would never make the senate trial, and even if it miraculously did, which it won't, they would never have the votes to push it through.

The senate trial composition for votes, is as follows:

53 Republicans

45 Democrats

2 Independents

Currently, for Trump to be impeached and removed from the presidency, the following would need to happen.

All 45 Democrats, 2 Independents..... plus 20 Republicans would have to vote against Trump

Or

All 53 Republicans, and 14 Democrats or Independents must vote against Trump

Never going to happen

It looks like Piss Mint is going to be heavily embarrassed again, like he was when he said that Trump had absolutely zero chance of ever becoming the US president, and that Hilary would walk it, with ease.

LMFAO...… Too funny

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
27 Sept 2019, 09:15
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27 Sept 2019, 09:15#13

No Rooi

It's not a wind up.

There is speculation that someone on Trump's crew might even be the whistleblower. Note : speculation mainly based on how bad the optics are becoming for the Dems. 

And look, stop being rude. 

I always remain civil with you. But you seem less and less able to do the same.

If you can't, and because I don't wanna walk the same road here with you that almost everyone else is, I'd rather just not discus anything with you.

What's come out of all the other "Bozo is doomed" predictions? Nothing. A big fat zero. 

Well, nothing aside from the Dems bleeding support.

On the basis of facts and outcomes alone I can start calling you a plethora of names. 

I'm not interested in doing that. If you are, well good enjoy it on your own.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Sept 2019, 09:34
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27 Sept 2019, 09:34#14

Very valid points indeed Plum

Kudu's for the respectful post..... which he didn't really deserve, but it says a moerse lot about you that you still  did it

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Sept 2019, 09:49
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27 Sept 2019, 09:49#15
“ Posted by: sharkbok (9683 posts) Sep 27, 2019, 01:27 It is actually important that I did "not" say that...“ I meant that it is not important in the context of what I was saying. What I was trying to put forward was that, like I said about Biden back then, I am now predicting that Podesta will also resurface in this saga. It wasn’t meant to point anything at either you or DA. My bad if it created that impression.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 11:45
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27 Sept 2019, 11:45#16
Plum, would you honestly feel better if I say "with all due respect I think that's stupid" rather than simply "I think that's stupid"?
I'm sorry, if anyone thinks that Bozo orchestrated this whole Ukraine whistleblower thing to "set the Dems up" then I think that person is being not just a little bit stupid but extremely stupid.
Now if you're going to get all upset with me for calling out what I think is a stupid statement then rather ignore my posts because I'm not going to shut up just because it's you saying it.
Like you said, you and I have always gotten along fine but that doesn't make us immune from criticism . . . just as I called you out for calling the Kiwis a nation of cowards when your only reason for doing so was because "they wouldn't have pitched up if they'd lost" . . . which - as I pointed out - firstly didn't happen so it was conjecture on your part and I also demonstrated how the Kiwis had in fact pitched up after a loss in the past while you . . . ummm . . . hadn't.
I don't believe I was rude to you. If I think something is stupid then I'll say so and I'll substantiate why I said that. If that's not good enough for you then tough. I'm not going to shut up just because I like the person who is saying something stupid.  
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 12:13
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27 Sept 2019, 12:13#17

''Kudu's for the respectful post . . ."

Not sure what the apostrophe is supposed to convey but are you sure it's "kudus" rather than "impalas" or "elands" or "nyalas"?

LMAO!

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
27 Sept 2019, 12:46
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27 Sept 2019, 12:46#18

In your defence, you do substantiate your claims.

Which is not the same as proving them, but it does matter.

Anyway, you're on a giant zero as far as Trump goes. 

Best is, I don't even like the guy.  

Thus far, his presidency has been a giant political lesson. One in the cost of underestimating your opponent while overestimating yourself. That's the part of this story I'm drawn too.

Even prior to his election there was a large machine attempting to curtail him at every turn. From SNL and Colbert to CNN and the FBI. Everybody was in on it. They made him out as an underdog in front of the American people.

Add that to the political campaign against the guy and now you have an actual underdog that is constantly bogged down by allegations, hearings, tax probes, investigations and on and on.

All of it smells of a bad mixture of overconfidence and shortsightedness on the Dems part.

In a popularity contest, which is what politics is, the underdog has the heart of the audience. 

It's biblical at this point.

The themes are so symbolic and base. 

Wouldn't surprise me if one of these guys mention dragons and winter soon.

If they didn't want him to win, they should have made him be the aggressor during his campaign. Given him little attention and made him come out of his comfort zone to be noticed. 

They did the opposite.

If they wanted him to be a single term president they should have been pushing bipartisan issues and outworking the Republicans where they had a majority to do so. Made Trumps administration appear slow as the result of being run by a novice. They should also have reported less on the Russia stuff but kept it, and similar stories, just far enough in the background that it wouldn't be brought to a conclusion but instead create and a general air of mistrust around him over the four years. 

But no. They had to ply the goo on so thick and from so many angles that it couldn't be ignored.

Lifelong politicians failed to out politics a complete and utter noob. It's pure theatre.

Every time this stuff fails they're just nailing down another beam in the building Trump's Trojan underdog.



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 13:08
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27 Sept 2019, 13:08#19
Plum, this has suddenly become a broad discussion about whether Bozo is a good president or not and how bad the Democrats are. 
It started off as a much more specific discussion of the Ukraine whistleblower incident and - in your particular case - the question is whether Bozo was just "setting up" the Democrats. 
Can we please stay on the topic. 
I'm saying that anyone who believes that Bozo did all this just to "set up" the Democrats is (with all due respect) naive and stupid . . . and now you're going off on a tangent about his election campaign. What has that got to do with the phone call he made to the Ukrainian president where he threatened to withhold military aid unless Zelensky helped him dig up some dirt on Joe Biden . . . and why would he go to all that risk just to "set up" the Democrats?   
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Sept 2019, 13:26
#20
27 Sept 2019, 13:26#20

"And look, stop being rude. 

I always remain civil with you. But you seem less and less able to do the same."


Lol, Plum, penny starting to drop?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
27 Sept 2019, 14:16
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27 Sept 2019, 14:16#21

Well the Dems created and spread false information for political ends. They're still doing it.

Is this a discussion about whether politics is above this stuff, or about whether Trump isn't smart enough to partake.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 14:29
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27 Sept 2019, 14:29#22
"Is this a discussion about whether politics is above this stuff, or about whether Trump isn't smart enough to partake."
Neither. This is a discussion about whether Bozo's phone call to the Ukrainian president where he threatened to withold military aid unless Zelensky helped him dig up some dirt on Joe Biden . . . and then tried to cover up the evidence . . . will set off the impeachment process that end's Bozo's incompetent and self-serving presidency.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Sept 2019, 14:35
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27 Sept 2019, 14:35#23

Poor old frot rooibozo taking his pasting from the board again and confirming his status as the boards arch Clown. That's putting it ever so politely. How many times has the buffoon posted drivel that was debunked. The thick prick never learns! 

Think I had better post what investigative journalist John Solomon has said as a consequence of having obtained 400 pages of documents that will end the Biden campaign etc. 

Rooibozo continues to peddle BS as he sucks up absurd globalist propaganda. 

This whole Ukraine fiasco is turning out to be a disaster for the Demonrats and Deep State. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2019, 15:03
#24
27 Sept 2019, 15:03#24

Rooinek

Let me be blunt on a few issues:-

1   The Democrats never accepted that Trump was elected  President,  That is why they started the Russian hoax and Obama orchestrated it.   Why did Trump win in 2016?    Because of dishonesty of politicians - both Democrats and Republican - in Washington.   As a result the standard of living of ordinary people declined for decades under both Democratic and Republican Presidents.   

2   Both Parties has had no interests in advancing the interests of the voters - they promised the world and did exactly opposite to what they promised.  An example is Obama Care - participation became more expensive than ordinary medical insurance and voters got fed up about it.

3   The Democrats developed a syndrome that they can do as they please and there were ample allegations that they were protected by the FBI.   The fact is Trump said he would clean up the Washington swamp and the people believed him.  The voters believe that the truth is slowly emerging.   Biden was an integral part of the "swamp".

4    The Russian Hoax story was part of the cover-up effort.   I believe the ordinary voters will believe Trump and not the DP - because amongst the voters the "Washington swamp" issue is nothing new.   

*    The problem is the DP are a bunch of Hypocrites.   There fabrication of evidence is unbelievable - what they said Trump did is mild compared to what they did.  Biden threatening the Ukrainian President with cancellation of the loan guarantee if they do not fire their corruption prosecutor was bad news.   Nobody believe the fib that the Prosecutor was not investigating corruption and that is why he was to be fired.   Fact is Biden's son was on the Board of a firm the Prosecutor was investigating.    Three Democratic Senators wrote a letter to the previous Ukrainian President that if he does not co-operate with the DP they would ensure that the financial assistance to the Ukraine will stop.

*    Lastly the DP has no policy they could use to win the 2020 election and the only thing they can hope for is to weaken the Republican Party by trying to get rid of Trump.    They are also a party that turns more leftist by the day,    The workers and middle class are leaving the DP fast and the situation for them is to try and get rid of Trump.   The problem is impeachment efforts in the election year are loathed  by the voters.   In the case of the Clinton impeachment move the DP won the house in 2000 and Bush only managed to win (506 votes in total) in Florida,     Commentators in the USA already said that the move to try to impeach Trump in the election year is bad news for the Democrats - it will only create sympathy for him and embolden his supporters to work harder to get him re-elected, 

  

   

  

               

          

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 15:21
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27 Sept 2019, 15:21#25
Ou Maaik, spare me your same old tired and monotonous Trumpanzee hogwash. 
It has nothing at all to do with the topic . . . and I've got very little interest in your opinion anyway since you behaved in such a cowardly fashion after claiming the quote I put up was edited and then - after I posted the actual footage which was word-for-word what Bozo said with zero editing - you weren't man enough to admit you were wrong.
If you want to drone on about what you think of the Democrats then find someone who gives a toss. I don't.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Sept 2019, 15:39
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27 Sept 2019, 15:39#26

You can always tell when Piss Mint is in a corner, and he is not sure how to reply to some criticism or insult that is directed towards him

He resorts to pointing out some basic spelling or grammatical errors

I could easily have pointed out far too many of your own spelling or grammatical mistakes...…. almost every single day Piss Mint...…………. but I don't want to be seen as the lame, childish idiot that you look like, when you do this same thing to all the other posters on here, when you have no decent response, or find yourself in a corner.

Just like a 5 year old would respond

LMAO

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 15:44
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27 Sept 2019, 15:44#27
"Kudu's" to Dumbass!
LMAO!
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
27 Sept 2019, 16:33
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27 Sept 2019, 16:33#28

I stayed on topic.

You're saying it's naive and stupid to believe that his administration could have a part to play in the leak.

And I'm asking, why? Firstly, because the other side have engaged in dirty tactics already. Secondly, because that type of bait whistleblowing isn't unheard of. Thirdly, because the Dems are so primed for that sort of thing presently, it would be silly not to bait them.

The smart move would be to give them the rope they want and then tell AOC that there's some new evidence under the stool that's propping everything up.

Would it be naive and stupid to launch an impeachment that is likely to damage your own party, even before seeing the evidential basis for the proceedings?

Apparently so.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Sept 2019, 16:53
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27 Sept 2019, 16:53#29

Plum, the Trump Administration has been one step ahead of these fools for 4 years now. ..it would be the prudent stance to atleast suspect a Trump psy-ops....only Rooi and some Dems pre-ejaculate everytime they think they caught Trump with his pants down...staying on topic? Rooi's way of trying to control the discussion. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Sept 2019, 17:15
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27 Sept 2019, 17:15#30

"Neither. This is a discussion about whether Bozo's phone call to the Ukrainian president where he threatened to withold military aid unless Zelensky helped him dig up some dirt on Joe Biden . . . and then tried to cover up the evidence . . . will set off the impeachment process that end's Bozo's incompetent and self-serving presidency.  "

1. "....where he threatened to withold (sic) military aid....  "  - Didn't happen.

2. "....and then tried to cover up the evidence.... "  - Didn't need to cover up anything and didn't do so either. He released the entire transcript.

3. "...will set off the impeachment process that end's Bozo's incompetent and self-serving presidency... " - Yet another wild prediction. Just like the one when Mueller was appointed.

Down boy. 

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AJHPro3,183 posts
27 Sept 2019, 17:17
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27 Sept 2019, 17:17#31

Folks all this political BS since DT won the election can be summed up as follows.

All the corruption that took place in Washington under the Obama terms was done under the expectation that Hillary Clinton was the next President.

If she was elected all this corruption would have been covered up and who knows what else is waiting to be uncovered.

Simple most if not all the top Obama officials who have fat bank accounts, corruption would have escalated to the next level (if that is at all possible) and ever legal and government position in the USA would have been filled with Obama/Clinton stooges. 

It would have been game, set and match.

But fortunately for the world the voters understood what was taking place and made the decision to elect DT.

The rest is now history to all but the Demos and the Snowflake's.

Justice is about to be delivered.

Welcome aboard.........


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2019, 17:37
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27 Sept 2019, 17:37#32
"2. "....and then tried to cover up the evidence.... "  - Didn't need to cover up anything and didn't do so either. He released the entire transcript."
Oh?
Hmmmm . . . so then I wonder . . . why has the White House recently admitted they moved the recording of the call to a classified server?
LMAO!
You would have done well to wait a bit before churning out your predictable Trumpanzee denials.
Bozo is going down and I'm going to enjoy watching the conceited, narcissistic and self-serving buffoon fall.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Sept 2019, 17:49
#33
27 Sept 2019, 17:49#33
"Bozo is going down and I'm going to enjoy watching the conceited, narcissistic and self-serving buffoon fall."
Rudeneck's been peddling this BS for 3 years now, when is the penny going to drop? Mueller...BOO!!! LMFAO!!!
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Sept 2019, 18:03
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27 Sept 2019, 18:03#34

"Hmmmm . . . so then I wonder . . . why has the White House recently admitted they moved the recording of the call to a classified server?  "

You don't know yet? You haven't heard how Trump's private conversations with, among others, the Australian PM and the Mexican President were leaked?

"You would have done well to wait a bit before churning out your predictable Trumpanzee denials.  "

Hahahahaha. WTF? You are lecturing me about waiting. You, the buffoon who haven't even heard that there was no threat during the conversation? Have you also not heard that the Ukrainian president himself denied that he was never threatened? Go read the post about John Solomon's article and see where it was actually the Ukrainian president who initially reached out to Trump, via Rudi Giuliani. 

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
27 Sept 2019, 19:18
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27 Sept 2019, 19:18#35

The democrats are excited ... they're having a go ... their best shot at getting rid of "Bozo" ...but as usual ... he's beyond them.

They just don't have the brain power to take him down.

A storm in a teacup.



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Sept 2019, 19:53
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27 Sept 2019, 19:53#36

Yes Trump's 156 IQ is way beyond the demonrats and he is making mince meat of the Clowns.

Poor rooibozo is a forlorn figure, mocked and rediculed with a daily dollip of egg landing on the egg magnet everyday. 

Never mind rooibozo you must surely have hit rock bottom and surely can only be heading up. Why do I have these wretched doubts! 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 06:31
#37
28 Sept 2019, 06:31#37

Rooinek 

I am not interested in personalities in politics I do not even like Trump and never have been - but the broader issues that effects the public as a result of political shenanigans,   

It is important in all countries - and that is a bothering situation.   There is the interest of  the rich that do not care about ordinary people that bothers me.   Also  the abuse of the concept of democracy.    There are interest groups that use the media for brainwashing and that is also a worldwide problem. 

What happened un most cases is that the politicians use their positions to enrich themselves and their families,   In the USA it became a problem and that applied in the case of both the Bush and Obama Administration and it became a  major problem situation.   The Bushes and Obama wants to protect their protegees and themselves by all means and that is what is important.   Both George Bush and Obama were atrocious presidents who did massive  damage to the ordinary people.   

That bothers me and I am afraid that it will continue and get even worse if the voters allow it.  They are now attacking Trump for doing what they did - they  were even worse and that is also a fact,                  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 06:31
#38
28 Sept 2019, 06:31#38

Rooinek 

I am not interested in personalities in politics I do not even like Trump and never have been - but the broader issues that effects the public as a result of political shenanigans,   

It is important in all countries - and that is a bothering situation.   There is the interest of  the rich that do not care about ordinary people that bothers me.   Also  the abuse of the concept of democracy.    There are interest groups that use the media for brainwashing and that is also a worldwide problem. 

What happened i n most cases is that the politicians use their positions to enrich themselves and their families,   In the USA it became a problem and that applied in the case of both the Bush and Obama Administration and it became a  major problem situation.   The Bushes and Obama wants to protect their protegees and themselves by all means and that is what is important.   Both George Bush and Obama were atrocious presidents who did massive  damage to the ordinary people.   

That bothers me and I am afraid that it will continue and get even worse if the voters allow it.  They are now attacking Trump for doing what they did - they  were even worse and that is also a fact,                  

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
28 Sept 2019, 09:39
#39
28 Sept 2019, 09:39#39

Trumps days are indeed numbered.

(365 x 4) + (30 x 12) + (some change) = a relatively high number

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Sept 2019, 10:27
#40
28 Sept 2019, 10:27#40

Plum

You mean till eh kicks the bucket?

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