Britons Back Respecting Referendum Result and Farage-Tory Pact for No Deal

@mozart

Your right about no tariffs on car components coming into the UK from the EU. I just assumed there would be, my bad.

Still that doesn't address the significant issues of tariffs on cars and potential long delays of components getting into the UK if they have go through custom checks.

The UK's Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.

https://www.smmt.co.uk/industry-topics/brexit/

https://www.smmt.co.uk/industry-topics/brexit/automotive-brexit-myths-busted/

@clevermike

Its not scare tactics when US representatives such as the President and the ambassador to the UK have actually said it. Nothing to do with fake news.

The EU doesn't govern any member state or threat them as a province.

Its true Trump doesn't like the EU and would rather it broke up so America could deal with each state individually when it comes to trade, where the US would be in a considerable stronger position. As it stands the US has to treat the EU as effectively equal when it comes to trade.

As for US giving the UK a favorable trade deal, that's not how trade deals work. Each side goes into a trade deal with the intention of getting the best deal for itself, and with Donald "America First" Trump you can double down on that principal. Even if Trump was predisposed to give the UK a favorable deal he will likely have to fight congress on the issue and as I said before, the deal is unlikely to be concluded by the time he leaves office.

I'll reply some of the other comments on here later.

Well said Huffer. 

Windpomp has been correct on so many issues but I find it weird he so underplays what people are thinking and saying about the Islamic threat. Many people a incredibly concerned. It's a big cause of the rise of the populistd/nationalists.

This concern will only grow as it is a MAJOR  threat. 

How utterly treasonous to let them in. They are being used as foot soldiers to destroy Western Civilization.

I see more and more speaking about a civil war against Islam coming. 

@ceradyne

Debunked how?

Yellow Hammer is the UK Goverments baseline assessment of the consequenesof a no deal Brexit.as of August 2nd of this year.

Yellow Hammer was the result of a number of public service officials who put together a number of worst case scenarios without any in the ground investigations. What are the chances of Labour or the MSM reporting truthfully on that? 

@Stav,

Listen to this interview:

I don't get the feeling that poor Stav reads anything but Remoaner propaganda. 

He writes these long pieces strewn with errors that clearly demonstrate he is fully under the control of globalist propaganda. 

One hope hearing things like this he will begin to question and search for truth. 

Hadn't access to a keyboard for a few days to respond to some of the posts. Going back to Been01's third last post.

The UK has trade deals with 40-50 other countries via the EU. Is there some particular issue you have with these trade deals?. What reason do you have to think the UK will be able to negotiate better trade deals than the EU and how will long do you reckon it will take them to catch back up. The US is the biggest market in the world worth $21 trillion the EU the 2nd biggest at $19 Trillion so while bigger I wouldn't call it considerably bigger. Also America  over is 3,000 miles away from the UK, the EU is 26 miles.

Not withstanding the fact the Britain is not turning into a Caliphate State, leaving the EU will increase the rate of muslim migration to the UK. Figures show that the since the 2016 referendum, migration from the EU (predominately Christian countries)  has declined but that its increased from non EU countries. Particularly Asian countries, several of which are predominately muslim countries. Congratulations on supporting a cause that has the opposite effect you think it will have. 

They never lost control of their laws. That was all another deceit. 

http://www.radstats.org.uk/no118/Dougan118.pdf

Both the UK government and UK judiciary are in agreement that control was never lost. But feel free to cite the laws enforced on the UK. Or explain how EU laws are made and enacted and what EU laws the UK did and did not vote in favor of.

Its not governed from Brussels. Also please provide an example of EU over regulation?

If the facts are clear, provide them please and not just just repeat meaningless soundbites and catch phrases.

You keep going on about Globalism yet at the same time want the UK to increase its trade with the US at the expense of Europe. Isn't that more Globalism, just with a different country/countries? Make up your mind...or maybe your really the mole working for George Soros!

Enforcing the law is not a crack down on free speech. The fact that you support a person like Tommy Robinson says a lot about you as person.

Funny how Germany's economy isn't floundering as hard as the UK's is at the moment. 

I think the UK will probably go through with some form of Brexit, but what version of it is the question.

@ceradyne

Your correct in terms of population size but in terms of market size the US is bigger.

I'd agree with that most British people have no issue with muslims, just have an issue with the very small minority of muslim extremists. Of course the average Brit would probably have issues with things like Sharia law, honor killings, death penalty for apostasy, the hijab/burka and various other rules and laws that some muslim countries have and that's fine and not Islamophobic or anything like. But as long as a migrant living respects the rules and laws of the UK then most British people have no issue with them living there. The problem is the extremists on both sides of the argument, where one side brands all muslims extremists and mixes up genuine issues the average person might have with Islam with outright lies about them. Then when the average person starts asking questions about Islam with genuinely good intentions looking for honest answers, they get shouted down as an Islamaphoes and a chasm opens up between the two sides. 

Your right when you say immigration has many facets and immigration was a massive factor in the leave vote. Both again the claims don't stack up. Migrants are not a strain on the UK at all economically. Studies have shown when looking at EU migrants on the whole, they provide a net economic contribution  to the UK, those studies factor in any benefits the migrants are claiming. this is because most EU migrants are generally well educated, mostly already have jobs lined up when they arrive and crucially on average are younger and therefore more productive than the native population.  So they have every right to be entitled to places in education and been provided with health care, hell the NHS is propped up migrant workers to a considerable degree.

In fact the UK and Europe on the wholes needs more migrants to help cover the cost of pensions for an aging population. Several EU countries populations have gone into decline. Its estimated with current immigration rates into the UK by 2029 the work force will be short 1 million people.

So what about some schools not speaking English as there first language. This is something like 32,100 schools in the UK.  The number of schools where English was not the primary language was from the last numbers I saw was 240. Less than 1%. Of that less than 1% how many are catering to children from primarily EU countries. It doesn't sound like a massive issue.

Also do you really think other countries aren't the same. Bet you there are lots of schools in America where English is not the first language either.

Any evidence to back up your claim that many foreigners are not integrating? By many I mean majority? 

Look I'm sure among the migrants there is a few bad eggs, a few extremists, a few benefit scroungers, as there is among the native population. But you have to look to look at the issue subjectively and weigh up the pros and cons. You also have to acknowledge that the UK can lawfully as members of the EU right now remove EU citizens after 3 months who can't provide evidence they have means to support themselves. This is done in many EU states but the UK does not enforce those laws because the UK government wants the migrants for economic reasons.

I'm glad we both agree the collapse of the EU would be terrible for the world in general. Though not sure why you want the UK to leave if you feel that way.