Charlie Kirk assasinated = another example of the results of political incitement

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Charlie Kirk was no saint. He made his living off divisive politics. He was defending the right to bear arms despite mass shootings, the moment he was shot. This does not justify his murder - not even remotely, but it does show that mass shootings are a growing problem in America because the politics is so divisive.

"Charlie Kirk was no saint."

None of us are, but he was a good guy who stood by his beliefs. A voice of reason for the side used to being shout down and cancelled...assassinating him was a despicable act of cowardice.

SB, there is no way under heaven or hell that the USA will ever be disarmed. You'll have outright civil war if that is ever attempted, and the pro-gunners will win that fight.

The division is caused by shit like you believing the leftist media and the Democrats in whatsoever they come up with. The guns issue has fuck-all to do with the issue - what is an issue is the hate spreading by the Democrats and the leftist media.

It has to do with incitement by the Democrats spreading lies as part of their political agenda and accusing of teh Trump Administratiobn by accusing them as being a dictatorship - while the Autopen Regime was guilty of the same things the Democrats invented and used, Iy has evrthing to do with the la and order collapse in the USA and the fact is the worse that situation became - the more the Democrats supported criminal loving policies and defunding of he Police, .

The fact is you and shit like you support hate-spreading by the Democrats and the leftist media all-out and that MSNBC employee got fired of is exactly what you and your ilk on site in reality support. Murder is fine and some excuse why it happened must be laid at the door of the Republicans. How brain-dead can you become?

Gee where was all the gnashing of teeth and wailing of persecution when the democrat law makers were assassinated?

"Representative Melissa Hartman and her husband were fatally shot and Senator John Hoffman and his wife were wounded. Governor Tim Walz described the shootings as “political motivated assassination”

I don't remember even a mention of this tragedy (could be wrong it was a few months ago) but even if it was posted here none of you gave a shit.

Seems a completely different story when its a conservative christian who's views align with your beliefs gets murdered.

None of them deserved to die but don't go painting the picture its all one way traffic and your lot are peace loving pacifists. Get some fuckin balance in your life.

And I have to say Dradd not very christian of you to value one person over another no matter what they have done. Guess you can make up your own rules and ignore the bits you don't like that your god preaches.

In the end, Kirk died for his beliefs that the right to bear arms outweighs the risk of mass shootings.

He stood strongly with this until the very moment of his death.

I wonder if they will catch the shooter. This could even have been a foreign country trying to interfere in America's politics. It is not certain whether this was a left/right thing yet.

Most of the political assassination attempts have been amateur so far. This one was a far more professional hit.

It might be time for anyone in America on a stage talking about politics to stand behind a bulletproof glass screen (Like Kamala and Trump last year).

"And I have to say Dradd not very christian of you to value one person over another no matter what they have done. Guess you can make up your own rules and ignore the bits you don't like that your god preaches."

Whoosh!!!...your comprehension is lacking if that's the conclusion you reach from what I have posted.

" Regrettable accident vs terrible tragic murder"

Nothing to do with the persons who died, rather the motivation of the killing and the political fallout afterwards...let's see how many riots ensue after Charlie's killing.

PS: As for the shootings of the Dem lawmakers, it was covered and condemned on this board...

PPS: As for the motive for CK's murder...might be far right or far left nutter...yet to be determined.

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So you know for a fact that the officer did not mean to kill him do you or do you just presume it was an accident as it fits your narrative.

Nobody but him knows his intentions that day.

If you found out he intended it would you then put it on the same level as the murder of Charlie?

Truth be told....no-one knows the assassins motive.....no-one. The wild assumptions on this forum are therefor both arrogant and dumb.

How about just a word of sympathy for this horrible event.

Why does everybody think the assassination was a professional job? Is it purely based on the recent clumsy attempts at killing Trump?

200 yards, with a modern scope and decent rifle, from a prone position, the most casual of sport shooters should hit that 9 times out 10.

Some kid could have gotten a hold of such a rifle and trained himself to very comfortably make that shot.

There will always be mass panic when something like that happens and if you know the school well enough, you could plan an escape route without too much trouble.

Perhaps there's something I'm missing but for me, a reasonably determined and semi-intelligent person could have done this on their own.

The biggest challenge, for a kid anyway, is not blabbing about it on social media before and/or after.

Could be so Plum.

Pics have been released of a person of interest:

"So you know for a fact that the officer did not mean to kill him do you or do you just presume it was an accident as it fits your narrative."

No I don't know for sure but it's more probable than assuming pre meditated murder...a police oficer trying to restrain a drugged up criminal...a very big drgged up man violently resisting arrest (6 foot 4) Derek Chauvin was 5"11 and 80 pounds lighter...police know how their actions are scrutinized...it was tragic and unfortunate....my narrative? Which one is that? Go look in the mirror before judging me. You're the one with the constant anti Christian agenda.

Plum...he got away and in today's survalance state, he is still not identified...maybe not a professional hitman, but definitely not a random loon. This was planned and executed...sad day for humanity when people are killed for their ideas.

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The fact is Kirk was second on a death lists of politicians to be eliminated and was found when the issue of Comey was investigated where he posted 8647 on the internet. There were two attempted assassination attempts on Trump - one came within an inch from killing him becaue the suddenly turn his head - but killed another person and wounded two people seriously, The other one never got to the shooting stage - but the potential man was arrested,

Was there something in common between the first and second attempts? However, surprisingly both was on the promotion video of a subsidiay of Blackrock active in Ukraine, Was that incidental or was their any really suspicious issue in that case, Blackrock screamd blue murder and claimed the Company was not directly linked to the video - bt was there? All that is known is that Blackrock would lose $80 billion if the Ukraine War was settled pedacefully and a further $400 billion in Government grants promsided to them by Biden or more likely the Autopen terms of an agreement as to reconstruction of Uktaine by the company assisted by the US Government.

What is also known is that the Florida Police would not allow any rep from the Wray F BI near the pisoner, Sothe accused chose to ahve no elgal represetative and the case started in a farcical way that would result into court into a judicial nightmare and since the case is heard in Florida the man will not succeed in that effort,

The question is was there a conspiracy in the three attacks or not? All cases the chance of the arrested individual be let off the hook judicially is remote since the Federal Justice Department and the FBI under Patel is now invesifgating all the murders invo;ved . All that is known is that Walz and the aleagd murder were close friends and the allegd killer committed the crime a week after the two lawmakers voted against a pet project of Walz the Walz prokect ailed to pass in both te Minnesota house and Senate, Was there anuy poliical link between Walz and the murderer? That surely would lead to a guilty finding and in a death sentence of the person involved who had $60 000 in cash in his car when arrestedsill loosen

The problem is that both the murderers invovled re definitely in line for a death penalty and that is going to loosen the tongues of the accused, The assasin in the case of Kirk is in hiding by people or may have fled from the country already,

DumbMike, do you ever copy and paste your own tripe into an AI search engine to fact-check it before posting garbage?

While the AI result may not always be factual, it is at least a good starting point.

Your brain is finished; it ran its last race long ago.

The claims you quoted are a mix of fabricated details, conspiratorial elements, and unverified speculation. There is no credible evidence from established news sources or government records that supports the narrative presented.

Key Fact Checks

1. "Kirk was second on a death list of politicians…"
2. There is no record in reliable media, FBI releases, or congressional statements of a "death list" involving a politician or Kirk This looks like invention.
3. "James Comey investigation / posted 8647 on the internet"
4. No evidence exists linking James Comey or investigations into him with assassination plots, coded posts, or "8647." This appears to be made up.
5. "Two assassination attempts on Trump…"
6. There has been one confirmed attempt on Donald Trump: July 13, 2024, in Butler, Pennsylvania, where a shooter fired from a roof, wounding Trump in the ear and killing one rally attendee while injuring others.
7. There is no verified record of a second attempt matching what is described here. Some individuals have been arrested over threats, but not in the dramatic terms presented.
8. "Both shooters were linked to a promotional video of a BlackRock subsidiary in Ukraine"
9. No news outlet, investigative body, or watchdog has linked Trump’s shooter to BlackRock or its subsidiaries. The claim that BlackRock would "lose $80 billion if the Ukraine war ended" and stood to receive "$400 billion in government grants" is speculative conspiracy rhetoric circulating within fringe outlets, not substantiated by policy documents.
10. "Florida police blocking the FBI" / "case heard without legal representation"
11. In the Trump assassination case (Butler, PA), the FBI is leading the investigation. No credible reporting supports claims that police refused access or that defendants lacked legal representatives.
12. "Walz political connection to murders…"
13. No credible reporting shows Minnesota Governor Tim Walz connected to any political assassinations or attempted assassinations. Linking an alleged killer as his "close friend" appears fabricated.
14. "Both accused face death penalty"
15. In the Trump case, the accused shooter (Thomas Matthew Crooks) was shot dead on-site by Secret Service—so there is no living defendant to face death penalty proceedings. Suggesting multiple accused awaiting trial and confession is false.
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Overall Assessment

The narrative is not factual. It mixes:

1. A real event (the July 2024 Trump assassination attempt)
2. False additions (a second attempt, "death lists," conspiracies with BlackRock, Walz ties)
3. Misrepresentation of FBI/legal proceedings

There is no evidence of a coordinated conspiracy involving BlackRock, Governor Walz, or multiple assassination plots. The confirmed facts are limited to the Butler rally shooting in July 2024.

Would you like me to trace where this conspiracy narrative originated—such as fringe blogs, social media groups, or suspect outlets—so you can see how it diverged from factual reporting?

SB

We all know that ou are a nut case and dim cunt.

Lets start with an issue you raised:-

Charlie Kirk was no saint. He made his living off divisive politics. He was defending the right to bear arms despite mass shootings, the moment he was shot. This does not justify his murder - not even remotely, but it does show that mass shootings are a growing problem in America because the politics is so divisive.

In the first instance please watch the O'Reilly video posted by Draad above. Kirk was exactly opposite to what you wrote above, He created a scenato where people are encouraged to talk to each ther about differences and not turn violent because of political diferences,

The A! answers you get to shit level too,

2 and 4 was on the Internet and after the storm over Comey's posting came out his and the one of the hit lists were withdrawn by the posters. So it was on the Internmet skunkshit,

6 and 7 are total shit altogether. I wrote clearly the attempt was stopped before shots could be fired by him and he was arrested and is now in court in Florida. Knowing the shit attached to the FBI and Federal Justice Department, Desantis refused to let the FBI and Federal Justice Department from dealing wth teh court case was not entrusted to deal with the Florida attempt -which your A1 did not even knows about, It is so stupid you woulfd have posted and answers on A! because it is beyond regcogn9tion too stupid for anyone els to come up with total BS.

9 BlackRock did issue a public statement after the promotion video was exposed and the matter is still under investigation. The $400 billion agreement was reached in January 2023 amd Trump canceleld the Grant immediately, There was in fact a written agreement signed - but never submitted to Conmgress for approval.

So the Autopen signed off on that one too.

13 The alleged murderer was serving as Walz security advisor and the two families visite each other regularly. That was on official statements the BI gained from people involved, Walz is a skunk as well and as a Chinese Government Operator in the USA - who frequently visit China he is one of the worst Gvernors in the USA - secnd after Newsom in California. But then you admire fellow skunks as well.

15 Relates to the Florida trial at present on the go.

So please don't put questions on AI without checking the facts yourself.

Kirk was a strong advocate for guns, but his legacy may prove that guns should be banned.

Very Ironic..............

Charlie Kirk, the far-right commentator and ally of Donald Trump, was killed on Wednesday doing what he was known for throughout his career – making incendiary and often racist and sexist comments to large audiences.

If it was current and controversial in US politics, chances are that Kirk was talking about it. On his podcasts, and on the podcasts of friends and adversaries, and especially on college campuses, where he would go to debate students, Kirk spent much of his adult life defending and articulating a worldview aligned with Trump and the Maga movement. Accountable to no one but his audience, he did not shy away in his rhetoric from bigotry, intolerance, exclusion and stereotyping.

Here’s Kirk, in his own words. Many of his comments were documented by Media Matters for America, a progressive non-profit that tracks conservative media.

Trump blamed ‘radical left’ for Charlie Kirk’s death – even as shooter’s identity remains unknown

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On race

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022

Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because affirmative action?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

On debate

We record all of it so that we put [it] on the internet so people can see these ideas collide. When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens, because you start to think the other side is so evil, and they lose their humanity.

– Kirk discussing his work in an undated clip that circulated on X after his killing.

Prove me wrong.

– Kirk’s challenge to students to publicly debate him during the tour of colleges he was on when he was assassinated.

On gender, feminism and reproductive rights

Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.

– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025

The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.

– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024

We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024

On gun violence

I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.

– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

On immigration

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024

The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024

On Islam

America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025

We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025

On religion

There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

I see some social media commentators are talking about closing down their YouTube channels in fear of being the next target. (Mostly left wing so far, but maybe some on the right as well)

Try taking your own advice Dradd, you are the one screaming christian persecution with your religious agenda. I am simply showing your hypocrisy.

As i stated Charlies murder is a tragedy but then again any murder is. The difference is you are using his death to push your narrative. (all poor innocent christians are persecuted) Try having compassion for mankind not just ones with the same beliefs as you.

So out of interest how many times worse (or better) was the murder of the democratic law maker since you have a ranking system.

We are going to get a barrage of conspiracy theories. Here is the first.

BB

You are a real nutcase too far gone to ever learn anything bar being a brainwashed idiot. Quoting The Guardian shit on this site is the worst possible thing a crazy loon like you can find is the work of a complete simpleton. The Guardian is the far left loonie paper and the fact is they never in their whole existence did not lie on the issues - for many years it was the Comunist Russia mouthpiece in the UK. After the fall of Communism in Russia they continued with their communist inspired garbage.

The above is going to be their end - advocating and supporting murder is even for the Guardian a new low point, I guess they will soon end up in a court of law for criminal libel in this case and billions will be claimed from this insult to journalism.

Try taking your own advice Dradd, you are the one screaming christian persecution with your religious agenda. I am simply showing your hypocrisy.

I didn't...I said you have an anti Christian agenda. Am I wrong. Don't you detest the Christian religion in specific?

As i stated Charlies murder is a tragedy but then again any murder is. The difference is you are using his death to push your narrative. (all poor innocent christians are persecuted) Try having compassion for mankind not just ones with the same beliefs as you.

I have not done that and I don’t think that. You assume too much....you are the one who dragged my religion into this. You can’t help yourself...don't let an opportunity go by to pounce on what you perceive to be Christian hypocrisy.

"So out of interest how many times worse (or better) was the murder of the democratic law maker since you have a ranking system."

It was deliberate premditared murder so it's the same thing...and it's not a ranking system, it’s distinguishing between to very different things in the same political environment...so look at the difference in fallout.

"Charlie Kirk, the far-right commentator and ally of Donald Trump, was killed on Wednesday doing what he was known for throughout his career – making incendiary and often racist and sexist comments to large audiences."

Fuck you Bob...this is the kind of horse shit articles which lead to his murder. This is the BS fucked up nonsense you lot believe and left a young man murdered, his children orphaned and his young wife a widow...SIES!!! The left have no shame...brainwashed bots...

"Far right"

Blobbi is so lost.

Draad, it's actually pointless arguing with these fools. Blob isn'tactually brainwashed. He's a racist fkwit. It's that simple.

Kirk's whole thing was conversation. The far right is not about conversation at all. Because the far right thrives on rigid dogma and exclusion, while genuine discussion of ideas depends on openness, challenge, and the free exchange of perspectives. Kirk was the opposite of far right...the literal opposite.

But it's the kind of shit that racists like Blob drink up because they are the actual racists and jump at any chance to justify what they feel and how they behave. They know they're racists. They know they're hyper-focused on race, and so anything that they can use to paint others with the same brush, they'll grab it and run with it. They need to, they have to, or else their entire belief system falls apart.

In Blob's retarded world, saying that all races must have equal opportunity, which is exactly what Kirk was pushing, is far right. Wanting to discuss all of the many problems between races and lean ideas against each other, that's all far right.

What could possibly be the motive for posting that article on here...or for writing it in the first place? Charlie had it coming? He deserved being murdered? WTAF?

Some fcked up sick people on left...and on the right, I know...

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Well, that's the problem. Many people of colour want to shout racist, want to bandwagon when some influencer or media outlet calls a white person a racist, and they do. They shout it as loud as they can. Trump wants to secure his border...Racist! Discussing whether the literal stated goal of Islam is a good thing for Christian countries...RACIST!!!

But in the end, these fuckwits like Blob, are deeply racist twats that hide behind the word racist likes it's a shield. Like the rest of us are too stupid to see what's happening.

Indeed, why else would Blo feel fine calling Kirk "far right". Far right = racist. But name the racist thing he did...Blo can't. But that doesn't matter. As long as you can put the label far right on him, then your side can be excused for being happy with his assassination.

What he can do is to quote a bunch of stuff entirely out of context, muddle them together, and then approve of Kirk's killing because Kirk has been labelled a racist and that plays into what Blobbi wants to believe and what he wants.

That's the game. That's the entire game. That's all they have. They have to accept any part of media that comes their way which condones their deluded narrative. As long as they can chuck out a word salad...mix in racist and far right enough times, that's all they need to keep living in their little world where they secretly hate whites and want to see whites fall.

I'm happy to meet someone halfway, anytime and all the time. But i refuse to have my intelligence insulted by their thinly veiled attempts at race guilting society into accepting their "moral superiority" when they're standing on no solid ground at all.

And this assassination will ensure that the Dems lose yet another election to the Republicans. And I hope that, when Vance gives his inaugural speech, there is a picture of Kirk on stage and that Kirk's wife and kids are on stage waving at the public

People's true colours come out at difficult or horrific times like this

Although to be fair, their colours were always there for everyone to see.... they were just amplified a bit more by Trump and Charlie

And this assassination will ensure that the Dems lose yet another election to the Republicans. And I hope that, when Vance gives his inaugural speech, there is a picture of Kirk on stage and that Kirk's wife and kids are on stage waving at the public

You and me both

Kirk was like Tucker Carlson, someone who made money from hate politics by playing the white victim.

He may have had his fans, but he was not a good person. A conspiracist like Alex Jones, a white Muslim

The Latino polls are -30. They have dropped about 70%, so this should probably ensure that the Republicans will struggle outside the white working-class base.

There have been another 2 mass shootings since Kirk was killed. Same old story, but we do not see the far right complain about these other deaths.

You told us the Republicans were never gonna win another election, Visser.

You said conservatism was dead.

And then Trump punted the Dems to Timbuktu.

Excuse us for thinking your crystal ball is a Fong Kong production.

I said religious conservatism was dying out, not conservatism. Big difference between the two... Conservatism will never die out, but what it means to be conservative will always change.

Trump won because his opponent in both elections was a woman. The alt-right of America could not have a woman in charge because their teachings forbid this.

The geriatric Biden should have stepped aside and let the Democrats have a primary to elect their contender democratically. Instead, the campaign donors decided Kamala should run.

Hilary Clinton was a better candidate than Kamala, and she got beaten.

Kamala should never have been in the race, and there were far more qualified candidates as vice president - especially given the state Biden was in.

Why dont the Republicans elect Mike Pence as their candidate? He is very religious, but instead, they voted for Trump, who is about as religious as I am.

...and you said the Rep party would die out because it would have no voters left.

Cumon now, be honest!

Conservatism might have been taking a nose dive until the left went stark raving mad. 15 Years ago I was leaning far more left than I am now but fucking hell did it go south from then. That someone like Trump can actually win a presidential election tells the story of how bankrupt the alternatives are.

"Kirk was like Tucker Carlson, someone who made money from hate politics by playing the white victim.

He may have had his fans, but he was not a good person. A conspiracist like Alex Jones, a white Muslim"

What a stupid ignorant thing to say...you have no clue who he was.