Charlie Kirk assasinated = another example of the results of political incitement

It has not been confirmed by the FBI of any relationship that he was in.

This is information from Grok (Twitter/X).

Based on the available information from the X posts, related web results, and the context provided, Tyler Robinson's motives for allegedly killing Charlie Kirk appear to be complex and not fully reducible to simply "not liking Kirk." While the data is still emerging and the investigation is ongoing, several factors and potential motivations can be inferred as of 09:34 PM BST on Monday, September 15, 2025.

Here's a breakdown:

1. Ideological Radicalisation and Intra-Far-Right Conflict

1. Groyper Movement Connection: Web sources, such as gazettedirect.com, suggest Robinson was influenced by the "Groyper" movement, a far-right faction led by Nick Fuentes. This group has criticised Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative figure, for being a "gatekeeper" of establishment conservatism—too moderate compared to their white nationalist and anti-LBGTQ views. Robinson's dislike for Kirk might stem from this ideological rift within the far-right spectrum, turning a personal grievance into a violent act.
2. Family Observations: His family noted he had become "more political" recently, and during a dinner conversation, they discussed their shared dislike for Kirk, viewing him as "full of hate and spreading hate." This suggests Robinson internalised a narrative that Kirk was a betrayer of true conservative or far-right values, possibly fueling a sense of righteous anger.

2. Online Radicalisation via Discord

1. Digital Footprint: The X post highlights Robinson's confession in a Discord group chat, and web results mention exchanges about a "DROP POINT" for the rifle and casing engravings. Discord, as a platform with unmoderated private servers, is known to host echo chambers where extremist ideologies can fester (e.g., studies from the Anti-Defamation League, 2023, on online radicalisation). His joking about a "doppelgänger" during the manhunt (per The New York Times) could indicate a detachment or ironic mindset, common among individuals radicalised through meme culture and online communities.
2. Ironic Extremism: The gazettedirect.com article notes Robinson’s engagement with Groyper memes and a "lexicon of inside jokes," suggesting his actions might reflect a blend of serious intent and performative extremism, where violence becomes a way to "prove" loyalty to an online identity.

3. Personal Psychological Factors

1. Sudden Shift: NBC News described Robinson as having a "squeaky clean" background, implying a sudden radicalisation. This abrupt change could point to a psychological break—possibly triggered by personal stressors (e.g., isolation, mental health issues) amplified by online radicalisation. The American Psychological Association (2021) notes that such shifts can occur when individuals seek belonging in extremist groups after life disruptions.
2. Confession and Surrender: His apologetic tone in the Discord message ("I'm sorry for all of this. I'm surrendering through a sheriff friend") suggests guilt or a realisation of the gravity of his actions, hinting at an impulsive act rather than a long-planned assassination.

4. Political Context and Misinformation

1. Utah Governor’s Statement: Governor Spencer Cox told the Wall Street Journal that investigators believe Robinson was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology," which contrasts with the Groyper connection. This discrepancy could reflect initial misjudgments, political spin, or Robinson’s exposure to conflicting ideologies online, creating a muddled motive. The X thread’s varied reactions (e.g.,
2. @RapGirlsRock
3. ’s "trans loving gay furry antifa assassin" sarcasm) show how the incident is being politicised, obscuring the truth.
4. Maga vs. Maga Narrative: Posts like
5. @raulcor82326592
6. ’s "#MagaVsMaga" and
7. @Retiredat43
8. ’s "right wing extremist vs another right wing extremist" suggests the killing might reflect internal factionalism within the MAGA movement, with Robinson possibly seeing Kirk as a rival or sellout.

5. Symbolic Act and Escalation

1. Public Stage: The shooting occurred during Kirk’s "American Comeback Tour" at Utah Valley University, a high-profile event. This timing suggests Robinson may have intended to make a public statement, leveraging Kirk’s visibility to amplify his own ideology or grievances.
2. Engravings on Bullets: The mention of "engravings on the bullets" (gazettedirect.com) implies a premeditated act with symbolic intent—possibly a signature or message tied to his online persona or beliefs, though specifics remain undisclosed.

Synthesis of MotivesRobinson’s motives likely combine ideological disillusionment (disagreeing with Kirk’s moderate conservatism), online radicalisation (via Discord and Groyper circles), and a personal psychological shift. Rather than a singular dislike, his actions seem to reflect a desire to assert dominance within a fractured far-right subculture, possibly exacerbated by a need for recognition or a distorted sense of justice. The conflicting narratives (leftist vs. far-right indoctrination) indicate that his online exposure may have blended ideologies, creating a chaotic worldview.

Caveats

1. The investigation is ongoing, and official reports (e.g., FBI updates from www.fbi.gov) have not yet confirmed a definitive motive. Early conclusions, like Cox’s, may be speculative.
2. More details from Robinson’s Discord activity, mental health history, or the bullet engravings could refine this analysis.

For now, this paints a picture of a young man whose motives were less about personal animosity toward Kirk and more about a broader, internet-fueled ideological crusade—though the full story awaits further evidence. What do you think about this interpretation, or is there a specific angle you’d like me to dig into further?

So we don't know yet, but you said he was right-wing Maga...you have voiced a premature unfounded view and yet you accuse Maaik of spreading nonsense? The trans issue is not being reported properly due to obvious reasons...his college room mate is trans...and is cooperating with authorities. It's not clear yet if they were in a more serious relationship than just being room mates. There appears to be a group chat being investigated in wich things about the assassination were discussed...looks like more people could be involved...he might still turn out to be a right-wing nutter, but at this stage Maaiks idea of why looks more credible than yours.

Hopefully his tranny room mate doesn't get charged with incitement to commit a criminal offence.

Well it depends if he did, né?

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So the roommate was his boyfriend busy transitioning to become his girlfriend...and he was radicalized by the far-left.

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It is on and it is getting funnier by the day. Remember, peeps, when it was underlined that during the good old slavery days in the US, on a plantation, when a master lost his child, the whole plantation had to mourn while when a slave lost a child, mourning was optional and left to the master's discretion.

Same here, guy's death is turned into a national tragedy and people must mourn. If they do not align with the official doxa, they are fired or beaten. Telling this guy has it coming is borderline a crime. Very funny because it is right now in action, people in the US live in fear, they have no autonomy. They must submit. Liberalism is all about submission.

"Remember, peeps, when it was underlined that during the good old slavery days in the US"

Slavery in the USA was abolished too long ago, nobody on this board is old enough to remember that far back.

Not so long ago. Especially as the US have not changed their mentality. As it was mentioned earlier on this board, Beside, it is not what is written it was underlined that during the good old slavery days in the US, on a plantation, when a master lost his child, the whole plantation had to mourn while when a slave lost a child, mourning was optional and left to the master's discretion.

The same is happening right now. People are coerced into mourning this dude and words of dissent are punished.

As it is getting funnier by the day, this dude revealed his racist pattern in multiple occurrences, just like when he went about the civil right act was a mistake. Concluding that the civil rights act is an anti white people thing. Now the Trump administration is going to use the civil rights act to enforce a mandatory mourning of this dude. Which proves by the example that the civil rights act is indeed very anti white people.

This dude's ideas have no strength. His body was not even cold that his ideas were trampled by his supporters This guy was a liberal selling words that were empty. There was nothing in them.

It is not clear at this stage, and if any evidence has been confirmed as facts.

This is floating around social media.

"If" these messages are true, it would mean that a conservative kid met a trans and they fell in love.

Some how the dislike for Kirk has then been the motivation. Although, even if this story is true - does it mean that a trans person can convert an all American conservative kid into a psycho killer?

Looking at the start of the text, it appears to be midsentence. Their is missing context. It might not be immediately clear that he was the killer, until after he said yes he was.

Also, how would he know so much about the 2 people who were initially arrested, I think the FBI only provided this update a few hours after the shooting. (That neither were not the shooter).

They share the same Birthdays? The flags could be flown at half mast on this going forth.

As a start you have come up with shit as well. Robinson wa found to have been charged by the Utah Attoreny General of Utah based on real evidence, You came up with a media conspiracy theory that the person who killed Kirk was a rightwing person based on sharkshit, You had everything wrong about the ssue because you are brainwashed into shit easily.

My initial comments about leftwing fanatics supporting violence was 100% correct and a based on exampes of violence commtted by leftist brainwashed idiots over he past decade,

Now you come up with abother conspiracy theory involving Floyd as well. Floyd was a political issue despit he evidnce involved in what really happened, Floyd was arrested because he used a false 20 dollar note and the police was called to arrest him. He had a string of criminal offenses and was let loose by the fake Autopen Presidency to continue his crime career. Anyway he was as high as a kite when the Police arrived and orderd him to ge out of a kite when teh Polce arrived and ordered him to get out of his car and when they arrested him for using fake money he resisted arrest. He resisted arrest and the fake story was spread by the medi story that he was murdered by a Police officer when he resisted arrest.

At the start of the election campaign fo 2020 the New York Times wrote that Trump is likely to win the 2020 election and the course to be followd was to attack the Republicans as racists and what happened to Floyd was taken as an example of racism - while the story about what happened was distorted by the media as well. Trump asked Barr at that stage to investigate what reall happened and the result was that six months later the media frenzy resulted in was pssed that was clearly based onlies was signed by Biden and called the Floyd act, which caused a virtual collapse of policing in the USA and an increase in crimes in the USA.

As a result the Democrat States and cities started reducing the Budgets for policing and in the end thousands of tens of thousands of police officcers left the service in the cities and states involved and in the end the Police feared to really invetigate criminal cases and as a result the service was undermined, The people wjo d the riots turned out to be from two organizations both founded in 2014 with the support of Obama namely BLM and Antifa. There were prove that the two organizations were in fact subsidiaries of the Democratic Party/

The Floyd case was used as a reason for riots in August-September 2020 which the media called eaceful protests caused -

1. murder of 46 people (13 of whom were police officers) by the rioters using guns and Molotov cocktails provided on an organized basis;
2. serious injuries to more than 1 200 police officer and the burning down of a police office in Portland - Oregon; and
3. arson and looting caused damages to the tune of over $6 billion.

There were seriosu indications that the rioters were led by BLM and Antifa and despite restrictions about 1 500 rioters were arrested and was in jail when Biden became President one of the first actions of the Autopen was to release the 1 500 arrested rioters from jail and not to charge anybody with crimes involved, There were charges laid as a result of the riots and those involved were the Ritterhous case was thrown out of court because the 17 year-old involved tried to stop a fire started at hus father's shop and was attacked by three rioters, He ran away towards the Police officers about 300 meters away - but somehow they managed to cause him to fall and they started to attack him. He had a gun wth him and shot in self-defense two of the rioters and when the third one esd pointed a revolver at him he shot him in the arm. What was recorded on the security cameras proved to be totally different from what the Prosecitors claimed as to what happened,and the judge would have none of it and neither did the jury -so the 17 year od Ritterhous was found innocent as acting in self-defense. The media went wild about racism in the case and so did the clueless Autopen President. However all three rioters who attacked Ritterhouse were Whites and the media frenzy stopped when they were threatened with libel claims. What th e emdia also kept quiet about was that the three attackers on Ritterhouse had a long list of crime charges never taken to court in the states they lived in.

In the case of another one the Governor of Missouri - when the autopen Presidentcy refused tolay charge when a highly respected BLACK reured polcieman was murdered for a business he started and the Governor appointed a private prosecutor to prosecute the case since the Autopen forced the Federal Proseciors not to charge the murderers involved, the case took only 4 days and the jury took only 30 minute to find the murderers guilty.of murder,

The Republican Party House members asked for a House inmvestigation of the riots and the Democrats refused to allowfor such an investigation and when the Rpublicans got control of the House they announced that a lrgal and full invetigation would be undertaken. However, there were no progress amde with the innestigation as yet since there were so much maladministration involved that the investigation was not started yet, You can be sure that one is now bound to happen since the Democratic Party has been involved in far too much criminality when it comes t incitement and even funding of riots.

Wait and see what happens next that you cpuld try to distort as you did in the Robinson case,

"How The Left Programmed Young People To Hate

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by Tyler Durden

Tuesday, Sep 16, 2025 - 10:20 PM

Authored by David Betz and Michael Rainsborough via The Daily Sceptic,

In the spring of 1975, the Red Army Faction, more popularly known as the Baader-Meinhof gang, stormed the West German Embassy in Stockholm and murdered two of its staff before setting the building ablaze. In its aftermath, a British tabloid printed a headline whose bluntness masked its profundity: ‘So, Who’s Sick?‘

It was less a headline than a rhetorical diagnosis, reflecting the bewilderment at these seemingly senseless acts of terror. Was it the bourgeois world condemned as corrupt by these self-styled revolutionaries, or was it the revolutionaries themselves, who in their righteous fervour appeared possessed by demons?

The question was never one that admitted an easy answer in that moment, and it remains just as piercing in ours. For when, half a century later, Charlie Kirk was struck down in the midst of civic debate, and when voices on the ‘progressive’ Left respond not with horror but with unholy glee, we are forced once again to confront the same ambiguity.

The murder of Charlie Kirk was barbarous enough, but what followed was more chilling still. Social media, that great theatre of contemporary sentiment, resounded with elation rather than grief. Where the natural response should have been mourning and sober reflection, there was instead celebration, applause, even exultation. The old pieties of compassion and human dignity were trampled beneath a chorus of malevolence.

If we return to 1975, we can discern that the spectacle is hardly without precedent. The chronicler of the Red Army Faction’s rise and fall, Stefan Aust, described the psychosis that fuelled its violence as the Baader-Meinhof Complex: a toxic brew of revolutionary ideology, middle-class angst and personality cultism, in which politics fused with pathology. Terror and bloodshed were the logical expression of this worldview.

Jillian Becker, in her study of the same phenomenon published in 1977, placed the emergence of the Baader-Meinhof gang within an extended historical frame, tracing how West Germany’s post-war radicals were the children of those who had lived through the Third Reich — parents whose relationship with Nazism was often ambivalent, sometimes unrepentant. Their children judged them guilty of complicity or cowardice. In turn, they felt they had no tradition to receive let alone uphold, no cultural authority to embrace as their own. Becker memorably described them as Hitler’s Children, who expressed their alienation in violence against the very society that had given them life and often prosperity.

If" these messages are true, it would mean that a conservative kid met a trans and they fell in love.

Some how the dislike for Kirk has then been the motivation. Although, even if this story is true - does it mean that a trans person can convert an all American conservative kid into a psycho killer?

Nah, Batshit & his brigade of loony tunes want to blame this entirely on em evil Democrats , so lets forget about Epstein & focus on the violent lefties instead .

Another version of Romeo & Juliet ? Director, Tarantino.

Blob haal af jou oogklappe. CK is dead. Forget about the motive of the killer for the moment and just look at the reaction of the left after the killing...it will tell you all you need to know, but you just can't accept that the toxic resistance to anything conservative most probably caused this and will continue to allow these things to happen. The moral decay and bankruptcy of the left has truly been exposed with this tragic murder, but you lot are so far up your own asses, you can't see it for what it is. SIES!

Well I'm not surprised by your response ... after all you regard most of my news sources as dogshit spreaders, but I'm sticking with us is the good guys, rather than your vuilgat mal Maga cacophonic devious diatribe of ugly politicking .

In fact you're the one supporting a dog.

Good guys celebrating murder and political assassinations, gotcha.

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Indeed Snark I'm not trying to prevent you from speaking your mind, I'm questioning your character after seeing how you exercised your right to say what you please.

If I thought Charlie was a decent person, I would not be laughing. However, I am more laughing at how his tribe all see him as an outstanding person.

Charlie is like a Julius Malema character. He sows hate and division and profits from it.

Blob haal af jou oogklappe. CK is dead. Forget about the motive of the killer for the moment and just look at the reaction of the left after the killing...it will tell you all you need to know, but you just can't accept that the toxic resistance to anything conservative most probably caused this and will continue to allow these things to happen. The moral decay and bankruptcy of the left has truly been exposed with this tragic murder, but you lot are so far up your own asses, you can't see it for what it is. SIES!

How about you stop being such a massive hypocrite and look at your own reaction and the reaction to this from many in the right wing.

Let's start at the top

Straight off the bat Trump comes out blaming and condemning what he call the radical left for this attack. At the point he did so no suspect hadn't been identified let alone arrested and no motive had been established.

Compare that to his delayed response to the Charlotteville attack in his first term, a delay he justified by saying he unlike the media liked to get all his facts first.

Later when asked on Fox News about bringing the country together, Trump responded he couldn't care less.

Also when asked about the murder of democratic Minnesota State Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband which occurred back in June of this year, Trump responded he wasn't familiar with the incident.

When asked about why he didn't order the lowering of the flag for those deaths but has for Charlie Kirk, Trump said he would have but the Minnesota governor didn't ask for it to be done, omitting the fact that Trump refused to contact the state governor (Tim Walz) breaking with the custom of contacting the state governor after a tragedy.

Ever other President before Trump including George W. Bush would have at least tried to bring the country together in such events, Trump instead has done nothing but pour gasoline onto the fire.

But let me guess the rebuttal will be TDS?

And it's the same from other prominent figures on the right, be it JD Vance, Stephen Miller, Lara Loomer, Elonm Musk etc.

Let state with Vance

“This is not a ‘both sides’ problem. It is a statistical fact that most of the lunatics in American politics today are proud members of the far left”

This is complete and total lie. The statistical facts indicate the exact opposite, most political violence in the US comes from the right wing and it's not close to being an even thing.

Also note the hypocrisy of "this is not a both sides problem state" when again compared to Trump's reaction to Charlottesville where there was fine people on both sides and both sides engaged in violence.

"We have to talk about this incredibly destructive movement of left-wing extremism. I believe is part of the reason why Charlie was killed by an assassin’s bullet"

Again blaming the left without reason. So far what looks like the most credible motive behind Charlie Kirks killing it that (alleged) preparator Robinson who was involved in a romantic relationship with a trans person developed a hatred of Kirk over Kirk's view of trans people. We have no idea if any specific groups or individuals encourage that hatred, radicalized Kirk or incited him to commit violence. Robinson's online gaming friends where absolutely shocked by his actions, noting that he almost never spoke about politics. They gave access to the discord server that he used and when searches of his posts were done, only 1 mention of either Donald Trump or Joe Biden came up and that went back it 2020 when he was discussing the ongoing 2020 Presidential election results and his comments did not indicate a hatred or dislike of either. But there simply isn't enough evidence to blame any political ideology at this point. For all we know Robinson could of simply been a young man struggling to come to terms with his own sexuality that on his own developed a hatred of Kirk over his views on trans people, no one knows at this point.

We have Stephen Miller saying that the administration would “channel all the anger that we have over the organized campaign that led to this assassination,” and promised to “identify, disrupt, dismantle and destroy these networks”

WTF is he talking about it. What organised campaign, what organisations???. LOL George Soros...are you f**king kidding me.

Lara Loomer

"shut down, defund, and prosecute every single Leftist organization” and called the left " a nation security threat"

That's in addition to pushing a load of conspiracy theory nonsense she also vowed to dox and publicly shame anyone who celebrated Kirks death online.

Elon Musk

"The left is the party of murder."

Now if you care to look up what leading democratic figures have said about the murder of Kirk, from Obama, Newsom, Biden, Harris, Schiff where they all just came out and condemned the murder. Now that's not to say there was no politicisation of the tragedy by democrats at all or that they haven't politicised tragedies like this in the past, but they have done nothing like the weaponization the right wing in the US has made of this tragedy.

But then lets move on down to social media. Now you are absolutely in your right to call out people celebrating Kirks murder, just like it was absolutely right for people to call out people celebrating the murder of Brain Thompson. I am absolutely all for free speech, but freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence from saying whatever you want, so if a employer learns that one of their employees has posted something offensive online even if on a private account they are well within their right to sack that person.

But for the love of monkeys, your side needs to learn to consistently apply this logic and take their head out of the sand. Just look at what some on the right wing are saying online. Brandishing the left in general as the enemy, calling for revenge, for civil war. What about your own reaction on this very thread, socialists are scum? What about that time you plugged that conspiracy nonsense about Paul Pelosi's attack being a gay lovers spat etc. Do you ever call out Mike on some of his crazy far right wing conspiracy posts which can actually be quite vile. No he's your mate so he gets a free pass.

You talk about moral decay and bankruptcy of the left, yet just 2 days ago we had 3 pundits on Fox when talking about the murder of Iryna Zarutska calmly talking like it was the most normal thing in the world that if the homeless community doesn't want to patriciate in programs for the homeless or mental health programs then they should be given involuntary lethal injections.

And you have the gall to lecture the left about moral decay. Fact of the matter is if wasn't a prominent member of the right wing had been killed like say a school shooting the right would of moved on by now, (because oh look there was a school shooting a the same time and it barely gets mentioned).

Show me where the right ever celebrated the murder of someone on the left on the scale that it's happening...and what made the CK murder such a big issue is the fact that it happened at a huge public gathering and was captured on numerous video cameras.

The mastermind behind the Kirk shooting...

Lance Twiggs: The Carebear gamer

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From Snopes for context.

Claim:

Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said George Floyd was a "scumbag."

Rating:

Rating: True

Context:

Kirk made the statement in reference to Floyd's alleged criminal history and the circumstances surrounding his death. Kirk's exact words were: "I am also going to offer some context and some nuance about the death of George Floyd that no one dares to say out loud. Which is that this guy was a scumbag. Now, does that mean he deserves to die? That's two totally different things — of course not."

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It was true Kirk called Floyd a "scumbag" during a 2021 public appearance in Mankato, Minnesota, according to a video of that event. He apparently made the comment in reference to Floyd's alleged criminal history and the circumstances surrounding his death.

SB and BB

I want to quote the following statement from Governor Newsom on the Kirk Murder:-

" Sacramento, California – Governor Gavin Newsom issued the following statement today on the murder of conservative thought leader and activist Charlie Kirk:

“We should all feel a deep sense of grief and outrage at the terrible violence that took place in Utah today. Charlie Kirk’s murder is sick and reprehensible, and our thoughts are with his family, children, and loved ones.

“I knew Charlie, and I admired his passion and commitment to debate. His senseless murder is a reminder of how important it is for all of us, across the political spectrum, to foster genuine discourse on issues that deeply affect us all without resorting to political violence.

“The best way to honor Charlie’s memory is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse. In a democracy, ideas are tested through words and good-faith debate — never through violence. Honest disagreement makes us stronger; violence only drives us further apart and corrodes the values at the heart of this nation.”

Newsom started a podcast this year and the first guess he invted to the Podcast was Kirk. He invited Kirk to be his first guess on the Podcast and Kirk accepted the invitation and he flew to Sacramento - Kalifornia for the purpose, They had an hour-long discussion on the issues with Kirk - which is on the internet as well. Your statements as to h ate speec his effectively denied by Newsom - who unlike some of the other BSter's you quoted and statements made by you and BB - shows how skewed you became - bearing in mind that Newsom and Kirk had different views they debated in the podcast. Apparently Nwewsom's son met Kirk as well and he was horified when he heard about the sh ooring as well.

Finally - Newsom - a left-wing Democrat - personally comfirmed that Kirk was never involved in hate-speech and what you and BB wrote above is despicable BS engineered by shit media liars like The Guardian.

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America more than any other country is a bitterly divided nation, with the emphasis on Bitter.

Combine hate with the ease of owning a gun, and it's no surprise that people are being shot and killed.

6x the population than South Africa with thousands less gun deaths per year...

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Poor Paul Pelosi, mocked by Batshit2 & Batshit Jnr . SIES !!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/17/minnesota-lawmaker-killings-misinformation-rightwing

The rightwing media ecosystem spins up narratives to serve their agendas after tragic events, regardless of accuracy

B S - no right spoke negatively about it - but a few issue was raisesd questionng what really happened to th e murdered and wounded politicians, which were factual and proven:-

1. The fact is both the murdered and wounded Democrat politicians voted wih the Republicans against a budget proposal that would have been turned out to be fruitless and wasteful submitted for consideration by Walz. ;
2. The alleged murderer was Walz's Security Advisor and visited Walz regularly.. and
3. The murderer had $60 000 in cash in his car when arrested

Walz claimed that the murder was political and as such was a federal crime and the Federal Government started investigation and it is still ongoing, Nobody accused anybody bar the accused and arrested for murder and wounded two Democrat policians, It was the first issue mentioned that was in the media that bothered some people - but nobody accused the alleged murderer of being a poltically invovled with the Republican Party.

While like many Democrat politicians calling Trump and Kirk regularly of being Fascisfs and Trump being in the pocket of Putin, The latter was based on lies spread by the Democrats despite the fact that it was proven as lies it was part o f the attack on Kirk. The fact is that the Democrats in itself is divided - with the ultra-left in the Party and some media figures were spreading lies about Kirk before and since he was murdered

As to why the One of those was Walz. His claims that the Minnesota murder was political was never proved and the investigation is taking a longish terms, Walz had no proof when he made those comments before the alleged murderer was arrested which were inappropriate at best, However, the statement of Walz led to the Federal Government took over the invetigations as such attacks are always regarded as terrorism that required a much wider investigation than other murder investigations.

In those cases it is not only the actual murder - but also potential financial links like for instance money-flows and circumstances that could have had an impact on the murders.it complicates investigations.

By the way - the Guardian has lied to you for 10 years about Trump and was proved to be publishing lies and those has been proved to be lies - yet you have been lied to and you never realzed they lied despite investigations lasting years proved they lied to you and you still fall for The Guardian shit. Amazing.

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Whoosh old Bob...whoosh.

https://youtube.com/shorts/v_DV3ymLAwg?si=X1fLAAHen12I7_lo

Charlie defending homosexuals.... which a lot of people deny...

Here is the full clip, I watched it a while ago

https://x.com/gregissnacking/status/1966961383129706496?t=ttAzs8GnfOJsfJ3-SSFdgQ&s=03

Charlie being defended as racist... by two black men that worked with him getting hundreds of young black boys and black girls to the White House

https://x.com/w_terrence/status/1966954673388351901?t=qvsAfUX_B6EBVwpJgObmDQ&s=03

This was done in front of Charlie whilst he was still alive.... in fact he is standing right next to them here

Ex Trans and Ex leftist defending Charlie for what he did

https://x.com/LauraBeckerReal/status/1967679971574599892?t=UW2UvBhGBk6IL-Dez8vDEg&s=03