Coronavirus could be getting weaker

Whoosh!

"The bottom line is that human being's forefathers, ancestors, descendants, relatives etc, etc - are from a chimpanzee.(no)

Whatever word you want to use, the closest species to human being are Chimpanzees( yes). And like humans, Chimps are also apes. Then apes have evolved from a common ancestor(yes)."

From your link:

Just a weak attempt to go off the topic. Read all of the articles. 

1. A white bear evolved from a brown bear. (Plum does not believe this is possible). 
 Plum states that changing colour as a mutation is too slow, therefore it would not lead to evolution. Bum Plum appears to have just disproven the theory of evolution...

Yet, all scientific records say that the white bear evolved from the brown hair. (or adapted, whatever you want to call it). And that the change was recent in evolutionary terms, like 150,000 years. 

2. Humans evolved from an Ape lineage, with the closest relative being a Chimp . The first creature was the size of chimps, as humans have gotten taller over millions of years. 

For all intents and purposes, a Homini is a chimp. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominini

The Hominini, or hominins, form a taxonomic tribe of the subfamily Homininae ("hominines"). Hominini includes the extant genera Homo (humans) and Pan (Chimpanzees and Bonobos), but excludes the genus Gorilla (gorillas).

The tribe was originally introduced by John Edward Gray (1824), long before any details on the speciation of Pan and Homo were known. Gray's tribe Hominini by definition includes both Pan and Homo. This definition is still adhered to in the proposal by Mann and Weiss (1996), which 

divides Hominini into three subtribes, 

1. Panina (containing Pan), 
2. Hominina ("homininans", containing Homo "humans"), and 
3. Australopithecina (containing several extinct "australopithecine" genera).[2]

Interesting, but none of this explains where Baboon-ou branched off from the main line. 

I would guess it was some time after the lemur/tarsier branch but before the gibbon branch. I'm pretty sure a gibbon has a bigger brain than Baboon-ou.

“ Posted by: sharkbok (11770 posts)

Just a weak attempt to go off the topic. Read all of the articles.   “

The irony....

"Scientists use lots of these words, but the facts and underlying argument are the same."

Mutation, speciation and natural selection being  examples of those pesky words which are basically interchangeable too.

So wonderful, this sciencing.

Haha 

Tool

Forget about the worn tyres and we’ll throw a 5 litre fuel voucher in the deal. How about an extra long whip aerial as an added bonus. 

I never said it was not possible. 

You absolute toolbox.

And yes Shark.

You are correct, despite me talking quite a lot about evolution, I actually believe that all animals appeared on earth fully formed and in their present state. Evolution doesn't work at all. Spot on my guy.

No. What I did say was, dropping off 1000 bears in the snow wasn't gonna magically create polar bears.

We hadn't discussed animals living at the edge of an area and then over time evolving to be able to move into and exploit a niche in said area. We also hadn't discussed animals living in an area and gradually evolving alongside its climate.

All we determined was that a) your bear example was a shit one and b) this is all well beyond you.

Here Viskop, 

Since you're an atheist, I've picked one of your heroes to explain ESSs to you.

While you are watching, keep the topic of this thread in mind - Covid getting weaker.

Let's see if you can join the dots...

Warning, it's a scientist using those pesky words again.

We - "DomVis and I"

...and?

BTW, he'd clearly either not read or not understood your much better example. Had he, we'd probably have been spared the tediously stupid 1000 bears hypothesis.

This ain't for you Shark. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2936202/

Abstract;

"Most models of virulence evolution assume that transmission and virulence are constant during an infection. In many viral (HIV and influenza), bacterial (TB) and prion (BSE and CWD) systems, disease-induced mortality occurs long after the host becomes infectious. Therefore, we constructed a model with two infected classes that differ in transmission rate and virulence in order to understand how the evolutionarily stable strategy (ESS) depends on the relative difference in transmission and virulence between classes, on the transition rate between classes and on the recovery rate from the second class. We find that ESS virulence decreases when expressed early in the infection or when transmission occurs late in an infection. When virulence occurred relatively equally in each class and there was disease recovery, ESS virulence increased with increased transition rate. In contrast, ESS virulence first increased and then decreased with transition rate when there was little virulence early in the infection and a rapid recovery rate. This model predicts that ESS virulence is highly dependent on the timing of transmission and pathology after infection; thus, pathogen evolution may either increase or decrease virulence after emergence in a new host."

Plum, did Sharkbok go up in your estimation..... during this discussion here

It's an honest question...... and I only ask because he started off as a twit and ended up as a toolbox...…... whilst being a tool.... and a spanner... in-between...……. so .... from what I can see..... there was certainly some growth here

bum plum - Urban Dictionary