Question.....Invade with boots on the ground

The only way for America to win is to turn Iran into Gaza.

A plausible path…..the power of the curse. Here’s a recent example:

RooinekHall Of Famer

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Mar 28, 2026, 14:02

This game has a bit of a banana-peel feel to it for some reason.

Uh-oh, should I have said "banana peal"?

Who would say something that ignorant? Still the Curse delivered again… the Bools won 40 points to 7. It’s infallible.

"Who would say something that ignorant?"

Who indeed.

". . . the Bools won 40 points to 7."

Not sure which game you were watching, Moz, but the game I watched saw the Bulls winning 34-31. It was a three point win when most people predicted a thrashing.

Well that’s embarrassing and I actually watched some of that game. Still the curse just delivered, but it was close. Hopefully it’s not losing its potency.

"You were all pretty silent on the matter then while the likes of ou Maaik and Draad were already popping the champagne."

Nonsense...I said from the start to give it a few months to evaluate...you know this...I also said that I'm not happy with them starting the war but can understand why... still don't like it though.

While the minority on Americans are cashing in on the stock market, the MAGA boots have to live in these conditions.

Iran is holding the global economy to ransom and damaging it through its selective closure of the Strait of Hormuz. We can’t allow this action to continue for any length of time.

I can't see a solution other than boots on the ground.....can anyone see a better one?

Trump has threatened to bomb their oil wells and infrastructure, and I really hope he doesn’t go through with it—it would be sheer madness if he did.

He says he’s in negotiations but won’t reveal who he’s talking to, while Iran denies any talks are happening. It’s less The Art of the Deal and more the art of chaos, confusion, and lies.

The US hasn't deployed enough troops in the region for a large scale ground offensive. It can maybe take a one or more of those Islands off Iran's cost but from my understanding it would leave the troops on those islands highly exposed and would not guarantee the straights would be kept open.

Trump should just end the war as quickly as possible and reign in Israel. He can make up some bullshit excuse to declare victory...MAGA will lap it up regardless of what it is.. He can then negotiate in the background with Iran and get some sort of deal, probably something like JCPOA Mark II and again call it a victory.

The longer is goes on for the more damage this will do to the world economy.

Trump should just end the war as quickly as possible and reign in Israel. He can make up some bullshit excuse to declare victory...MAGA will lap it up regardless of what it is.. He can then negotiate in the background with Iran and get some sort of deal, probably something like JCPOA Mark II and again call it a victory.

Ending the war while the regime still controls the Strait of Hormuz makes no sense. It would be a victory for Iran and a setback for America, allowing them to grow stronger, fuel chaos across the Middle East, disrupt the global economy, and eventually become an even greater threat than they are now.

So what then?.......hey Yankee howsabout a rehearsal?

As I’ve said, Trump is trapped in a zugzwang..

If America backs off now, it will only embolden them...there has to be a workable solution going forward.

Israel have already ruled out ground force attacks. They prefer to stick to long range strikes.

Get the MAGA boots on the ground, these boosare made for Walkin'

Israel have already ruled out ground force attacks.

If by some miracle you read between the lines of Trump's BS......so has he.

Yes, I really pray they find some way of ending this without further bloodshed and without chickening out and making the blood already spilled in vain...like I said, I would have preferred if he didn't start this now...

Ending the war while the regime still controls the Strait of Hormuz makes no sense. It would be a victory for Iran and a setback for America, allowing them to grow stronger, fuel chaos across the Middle East, disrupt the global economy, and eventually become an even greater threat than they are now.

I agree, leaving Iran to their own devices now would leave oil prices volatile for a long time

I could also see Iran rapidly rebuilding what has been already been destroyed and then looking for retribution in some way later on

I also believe that the surviving regime could still pursue nuclear weapons development covertly for deterrence, unless they are very carefully and specifically monitored with full and complete unhindered access to all suspected sites.

I don't in any way at all agree with the US bombing the electric generating plants or desalination plants either.... I would consider that a war crime and it would be devastasting to so many Iranian citizens.

Trump has previously said that he will refuse to name the people that he is negotiating with in Iran, because of the fear of them being killed.....we will never know the full truth of that, but it does make sense given the many radicals in Iran that would not want that to happen.

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Ending the war while the regime still controls the Strait of Hormuz makes no sense. It would be a victory for Iran and a setback for America, allowing them to grow stronger, fuel chaos across the Middle East, disrupt the global economy, and eventually become an even greater threat than they are now.

But their going end up with defacto control regardless. They have demonstrated how easily they can shut the straight. As I said even if the US seizes some of the islands, Iran can still keep the straights shut with relatively cheap drones that it will be very hard the US to stop Iran from producing and firing. The Americans have no where enough forces deployed to say seize the Iranian coastline, never mind the whole of Iran a country with 90 million people, 4 times the size of Iraq and land geography that's highly favourable to the defender. And yes they could provide escorts to ships, that would be time consuming and very expensive for American to do long term, never mind the danger they would putting themselves in and even then the people running the tanker ships still not opt to take the risk even with an escort.

The longer this goes on the worse the disruption will be.

As I’ve said, Trump is trapped in a zugzwang..

Yeah he trapped himself. Of as he himself might put it... he doesn't have the cards.

I agree, leaving Iran to their own devices now would leave oil prices volatile for a long time

The longer this goes on the worse the volatility gets. Remember there was no issues getting through the straights until America kicked off this war.

I could also see Iran rapidly rebuilding what has been already been destroyed and then looking for retribution in some way later on

Yeah they will rebuild, it will take a while.

I also believe that the surviving regime could still pursue nuclear weapons development covertly for deterrence, unless they are very carefully and specifically monitored with full and complete unhindered access to all suspected sites.

Quite possibly...the US-Israeli attacks may have made them more determined to get a bomb as deterrence. But they might now think they don't need it... they could funnel resources into much cheaper drones and missiles to shut down the straights. Hell they could even agree to capping missile range and it wouldn't matter and it would be very hard for the US to push for an agreement that prevented Iran from building drones and short range missiles.

I don't in any way at all agree with the US bombing the electric generating plants or desalination plants either.... I would consider that a war crime and it would be devastasting to so many Iranian citizens.

Trump has previously said that he will refuse to name the people that he is negotiating with in Iran, because of the fear of them being killed.....we will never know the full truth of that, but it does make sense given the many radicals in Iran that would not want that to happen.

It would be a war crime and a further blow to American's reputation, with very hard to predict consequences.

I don't think significant negotiations have yet occurred between the US and Iran and Trump is simply lying or a best exaggerating the scale of negotiations that's occurred so far. . There has been some contact and people trying to get the negotiations started and I do think it will end in negotiation's at some point. It seems America wanted to kill Iran's leaders then move down to the second rung on the leader who they believed where more reasonable. The problem being their first strike was too effective and they effectively took out the second rung and so we are not at the third rung who are apparently even more hard-line than the original leaders and to top it off the American's have killed the new leaders, dad, wife and children. I suspect he's not in a negotiating mood.

But they might now think they don't need it... they could funnel resources into much cheaper drones and missiles to shut down the straights. Hell they could even agree to capping missile range and it wouldn't matter and it would be very hard for the US to push for an agreement that prevented Iran from building drones and short range missiles.

I agree, in fact I would be surprised if this did not happen

I must agree with Mozart - the War was inevitable, The following is a as to what is recorded as happning during the ast series of negotiations between Witkopf represening the USA and Iran negotiators:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu7wxy7YBUg

What is importan t is not whether he Iranians lie about their eminent nuclear bombs will destroy Israel and total instability in the ME when they threatent o use such bombs against othe ME countries as well.

People are not dealing woth normal people - they are dealing with ultra-radical religious fanatics which represents a hreat to both the ME, Africa and Europe,

Fanatcs do not feareath - they eblieve there are vrgins waiting for hem after death as religious martyrs. Atilla the Hun came from cntral Asia and terrified Europe - the Ayatollah regime is from the same area and will terrorize Europe,