Brilliant, after all these civilian deaths, the yanks are finally seeking peace instead of fueling the fire with their latest gizmo battle supply.
Russia couldn't sort Afghanistan and neither the yanks either. This battle could drag on for years and the the yanks must cough up at least 400 billion dollars for re- building their investment in Ukraine.
Russia was always going to win this one. The damage done to Europe and the USA is immense not only economically but in terms of creating a world wide alliance against the West. If you recall the words of George Soros that Western Civilization must be destroyed before the Globalist NWO can be implemented then it helped the cause.
See what happens.
I hear the Ukraine advance has ground to a halt with heavy loses of men and equipment. Russian has 300,000 more troops available and apparently have not stopped the mobilization which could add another 700,000 trained troops. Meanwhile Ukraine's energy and water sources have been decimated and it could get worse if this continues. All to stop 4 Russian populated regions leaving the Ukraine after years of persecution and killings. All to stop Ukraine from becoming neutral which of course makes Putin's point.
Seb must be happy.
If you want to see full blown propaganda on display keep and eye on the Daily Express Russia should have been buried twice by now according to them. But many Brit are not buying the bs.
That's nothing Beeno, according to the Daily Express the EU was on the brink/verge or is collapsing dozens if not hundreds of times over the years and it still hasn't happened
moonrover
I will believe in the support of the USA for a peaceful settlement in Ukraine if I see it The only chance of that happening would be the Republcians taking ver both the House and the Senate on Tuesday.
Where did you get the story about the USA supporting peace talks in Ukraine? There are so many backhanders going into the pocket of US politicians that any stop of the war promotion effort would be opposed by them.
Tens of thousands of people marched in Rome on Saturday calling for an end of arms supplies to Ukraine.... Financial times.
Support for these weapon are falling Mike. Just Stav and his warmonger cronies on here support it.
Hopefully India can broker peace talks.... Crimea is Putin's Holy Land and Zelensky wants him out. Two massive egos .
Stavass the EU is in deep trouble and none more so than Europe's economic powerhouse Germany. Biden is apparently charging them 4 times the amount for Gas. German industry is in peril.
This is a difficult situation to read. the Germans obviously know the USA in combination with Britain blew up the pipeline. They probably don't want to be an economic colony of the USA.
Some people at the Daily Mail say inflation in the EU is higher than in Britain.
The German Chancellor is over in China talking to Xi. Some speculate Germany will join the Chinese, Russian, Indian led world alliance. This could lead to the EU breaking up.
Benedict Biden is also in bed with China. So what is going on. Many moving parts and many options so one can only speculate which I am not going to do though I have some ideas as to what is happening. I do know where everything is heading thanks to scripture. I do know that the WEF are trying to implement things spoken of in scripture. I don't know the exact timing or precisely how although one can see the general direction of things.
The Great Awakening is happening at an ever increasing pace around the world. The WEF agenda is not popular and resistance is mounting.
You of course are totally ignorant and even today believe the crazy man made climate change hoax.
Bye the way do you know 1 in 6 people in Britain were not born in Britain. That does not include children born to illegals.
Wonder how far the population replacement has got in Ireland.
Frankly if people are too stupid and too cowardly to safeguard their nations they deserve to be ousted.
Yep over 70,000 of Russian youth is a great victory for putin.
Why aren't you a man of your beliefs and fighting on the front for Russia.
Let me guess you prefer others to die for your beliefs as they aren't worth shit as long as some one dies for your insanity.
Funny how the hard core aren't willing to give up anything but happy for the ignorant to die in their place.
Your a fuckin coward
Hey CF, Wagner will employ you they looking for ex cons.
They are looking for anyone they can force onto the front line as a destr action, Lambs to the slaughter.
Some story - The Russians invaded Ukraine using 125 000 troops and of those according to CF and the media lost 70 000 men. So Ukraine is wnning the war - where on earth did the 70 000 c casualty figure comes from?
In the period 2014 to 2022 more than 18 000 civilians were killed in the Eastern Part of Ukraine by elements in the Ukraine army and that was never ever mentioned by the media and in that aspect is never mentioned as a factor leading to the invasion.
In a question answer situation in the USA Senate under oath - a representative of the US Army admitted that only 30% of the armament assistance provided to Ukraine reached the Ukraine army A US Army Colonel was appointed specifically with delivery of the arms to Ukraine. Since the above was under oath in the Senate the question mark is what happened to the 70% handed over to the Ukraine Government? Was it sold on the armaments black market and who got financial benefits from it?
The arms provided to the Ukraine was collected from the US Army - so i t had to be replaced by fresh arms supplied by the USA armaments industry and that is where the kickback situation becomes murky. Take for instance the Haliburton company who made billions out of the Iraq war of 2003. The company is controlled by the Cheney family and they are again involved in arms production to replace secondhand arms provided to the Ukraine army. Trump actually mentioned that issue and that is the reason for the Liz Cheney witch hunt ever since January 2021. The f act is that Liz Cheney lost her House seat and Liz is now campaigning all over the USA in support of Democratic Party candidates in the midterm election. If a Republican Party member campaigns to support and endorse Democratic Party candidates such a member should be kicked out of the Republican Party, She and her new leader Pelosi is involved up to their necks in Ukraine corruption and in kickbacks from the Armaments Industry
That is the reason why the Democrats are panicking about the potential outcomes in tomorrow's election and the latest battle cry of the Democrats to the effect that Democracy is under attack and that the future of Democracy is on the ballot tomorrow, Since their policies had disastrous consequences for the ordinary people in the USA - they do not defend the policies' of the Democrats the only weapon left to them is fearmongering about the future of Democracy in the USA. They have lied for 5 years about collusion between Trump and Putin and is now believing that the US Voters would be bluffed again by their lies,
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Some story - The Russians invaded Ukraine using 125 000 troops and of
those according to CF and the media lost 70 000 men. So Ukraine is
wnning the war - where on earth did the 70 000 c casualty figure comes
from?
Ukrainian estimates, as well as British and American estimates. I've also seen some reports that there estimates have gone up to 80,000. A independent Russian media project iStories has the causalities at 90,000 for the Russians.
Moscow itself has only admitted to 5,397 deaths. BBC Russia as well as a Mediazona another independent Russian source have confirmed 8,294 by checking deaths reported by relatives in regional new and reports from local authorities within Russian.
According to the Russian's Ukraine has taken over 100,000 causalities.
I don't believe either side's numbers. Both are likely over inflating the numbers for propaganda reasons and there is likely genuine but not deliberate over counting of enemy losses has occurred in virtually every conflict in recent history due to the chaotic nature of warfare.
My own personal view is both sides have taken significant losses, that proportionally to the size of the two sides involved are roughly equal, with maybe Ukraine doing a little better.
Ignoring all the issues the Russia forces have with logistics's, corruption, leadership etc, fundamentally the Russian invasion force was simply too small to end up fighting a war on the scale it found itself having to fight. The assumption must of been the Ukranian's forces would not fight and for the most part flee.
The Ukranian's hit the mobilization button on day 1, so now they enjoy the manpower advantage. The expectation is that Russia's mobilization won't significantly improve Russia's position in the short term with numerous reports of problems with the mobilized troops such as low morale, equipment shortages and cases of troops being deployed to the front line with no training what so ever. They might regain offensive ability next year but for now momentum is with Ukraine with them pressing offensives (albeit gaining ground slowly) in both the north and south of Ukraine, with a strong likelihood they will retake Kherson in the next few weeks. Only in the central zone in the Donetsk and the town of Bakhmut are the Russian's making even limited gains and those gains are coming from Wagner units not the Russian Army. Russia's drone campaign against Ukrainian critical infrastructure (which is a war crime) is succeeding in overwhelming Ukrainian air defenses and crippling Ukraine's electric grid and water systems but the Ukrainian population show no signs of breaking and the campaign is having no effect on the the Ukrainian military in the field.
So Ukrainan has the upper hand at this moment in time but that doesn't mean they will win the war or liberate all of Ukraine. All I would predict for the remaining of this year is they will retake Kherson, and push Russia to the east bank of the Dnieper river and they might take Svatove in the north. The Russian's might be able to take Bakhmut. But none of that wins the war outright for either side. I don't know what will happen after that.
I predict that post the mid-terms...negotiations between Russia and Ukraine will be more of a topic and likely occur sooner than we think.
Ukraine will give up far more at the negotiating table than Russia will.
...and then we'll all forget about Ukraine.
I'm hoping that the weapon aid money is followed and investigated. Not because I think that Ukraine shouldn't have received assistance but because I'm damn suspicious of where that aid money has been and is going.
The Wagner group has shown how useless the Russian army actually is.
The reservists are just cannon fodder to fight on hold the front line, while the trained army professionals hold the rear.
If media reports are correct, many Russians who try to escape the front line are shot by senior Russian army personnel, or by the Wagner group if they try to retreat.
Both sides have probably sustained 50,000-100,000 severe injuries/deaths.
Putin will not stop until:
1. Ukraine cede some of their land
2. Putin is dead
3. His army revolts and stop fighting. Unlikely with the Wagner Group killing deserters
Putin's goal was clearly to take all of Ukraine, but to save face he would accept some of it.
Putin calls Russia a world nuclear power- because in Russian grandeur Russia is a word power.
Economically they are just producers of energy and natural assets - common to most dictatorships around the world.
Italy is a bigger economy than Russia.
That is true Stav. Even if the West grow tired of the war, and this hastens some type of truce where Ukraine cede land:
1. The economic damage to Russia will be far more than its gains in Ukraine
2. Whatever the outcome, sanctions will be permanent in order to force a regime change where KGB-inspired rulers are removed- and Russia has paid Ukraine economic compensation.
3. In the meantime, all of the Russian assets in the West will be given to Ukraine to help them rebuild what is left of their country.
4. Russia will become a plaything for China, which will exploit its cheap natural assets. China will be in the driving seat, and they will dictate terms to Russia
Stupid morons havnt even heard of Brics yet. The Russians are pouring oil into China and India. There's a new world order and its not the West. The Chinese economy is fast catching the USA.
While Europe and USA is bogged down with corrupt Ukraine into the next decade India ,China and Russia will take the world stage.
Germany knows this,Italy knows this.....stop reading english papers...get google translator and enhance your worldview.
Brics is China and Russia. If you hate the West so much, that you want dictatorships to run you.
Although with the electricity situation in South Africa , it might be better to be taken over by China
China has and is taking over Africa ,obviously you don,t live here.
Oi ...look whose here transgender Rooibek,out looking for some young boys to perv with again.
A spokesperson for the German government has said it is up to Ukraine to decide when to hold peace talks with Russia, adding that Moscow has also been reluctant to participate in them.
The spokesperson’s remarks came after the Washington Post reported on Sunday that the United States has been privately encouraging Ukraine to signal it is open to talks with Russia.
Ukraine’s president has ruled out negotiations with Moscow while Russian President Vladimir Putin is in power.
Bendover, do you have a stutter or did your idea of perving over young boys make you start smashing the submit button in excitement?
We know all about you Rooibek......you the lowest of the human race.
I guess it's the church's tolerance and condoning of molesting kids that makes fundamentalist bible-bashers like Bendover think it's okay.
"When brainwashed religious dolts lose an argument, they predictably call anyone who does not agree with them, paedophiles"...SharkBok 6v66
Indeed. Of course, they miss the irony that their church are the worst offenders when it comes to child abuse . . . but bible-bashers are not the shinierst coins in the fountain.
Funny how Germany and Italy know that a protracted battle with Russia is pointless. They probably have read their history books by now, unlike the deaf and blind atheists on here.
St6av
You obviously missed out how the media went in to mourning when Solemaine was killed and how they attacked Trump for ordering his killing. Now Biden is trying to renew the Nuclear treaty with Iran which Trump tore up because of non-compliance. Will those negotiations succeed? Sure it can - but it depends on the backhanders involved.
You obviously missed out how the media went in to mourning when
Solemaine was killed and how they attacked Trump for ordering his
killing.
That's a misrepresentation of the media's coverage of Somemani's death and you know it. The media had no love for Soleimani, but what they did have concerns about several other issues, such as the attack being launched from Iraqi territory with Iraq's permission, Trump not consulting congress before launching the strike, whether the attack violated international and US domestic law and the unpredictably consequences of the attack in the region such as how the Iranian's might retaliate.
What I find it odd now, is that many people who supported Trump's actions on the grounds that Iran was a threat and Trumps tough stance on China, now sing Russia's praise for building a so called new order to counter or surpass the west that includes Iran, China and even North Korea.
Its quite fascinating to see this section of people who live in western society or consider themselves western but have been indoctrinated to have such fear and hatred for people in their own countries and regions who don't share their political views that if this opposing political viewpoint achieves political power in their society or region they will excuse or support hostile authoritarian foreign powers.
Kim is your baby however any which way you look at it. He is the ultimate atheist... devoid of any morality... above God he thinks.
No just pointing out that religious people are just as capable of being immoral as Atheists.