Beeno - Man Up

Beeno, with all your constant preaching to all and sundry on this forum about the universe, and DNA..... it's about time you answered a question...……...so I have reposted my question into a new thread here

How were the pyamids made?

You know...... the 2.5 million blocks of individual rocks that make up each pyramid and each rock is between 2 to 16 tons in weight...… with some pieces weighing 100 tons, that were put in places within the pyramids, and hoisted up to incredible heights...….oh...…..and each piece of rock had to be transported from over 600km - 700km away.

All this was done without the wheel even being invented yet...….. oh...… and the rocks were placed with such precision, that scientists would battle with today's technology to replicate the same thing...…..

Did I also mention the absolute precise holes which were drilled through some of these 100 ton limestone rocks...……

Or how about how they were lined up so accurately, to the stars in Orion's belt, which was only discovered thousands of years after the pyramids were constructed.....

Maybe you could explain how the dimensions of the pyramids, when mathematically calculated, equal to 3.1419, which is PI, which was only discovered 2000 years later

Tell me Beeno…….. let's solve this relatively new and recent creation of something...…... before you start trying to preach to me and everyone else on here...... about how you believe DNA and the universe was created

Surely something constructed so recently, should be much easier to explain, than something like the universe or DNA..... which is far...…. far...…. far …...older.

The floor is yours Beeno...…. I await your detailed answer

It's the most wonderful time...of the yeaaaaar!

Beeno is extremely quiet...…. not normal

I thought everyone knew the nephelyn built the ancient structures?

My question is much, much simpler and really highlights the hypocrisy in organized religion in general. Specific the Abrahamic religions which are basically the world's best formulated and longest stand scam. Created by Constantinople to guilt people into handing over an additional 10% of their income.

If the 'big bang' theory is so preposterous in that the universe was created from nothing, what did God create the universe from ? The hair of a yellow dog ?

Not everything our feeble little brains cant fully comprehend needs to be the work of a supernatural power. That's just the easy way out. Like the Norse people that couldn't understand an electric storm so attributed thunder and lightning to Thor's hammer.

Come on, it's almost 2020 !

Beeno, what did God create the universe from ?

Uh-oh . . . this is not going to end well . . .

God spoke and the world's came into being. Spoke =big bang?

You halfwits don't understand God can do things we can't. That ever occur to you dumbasses. 

Jesus turned the water into wine. Fed the crowds with a few fish and loaves of bread. 

How the hech can I as a mere man tell how God does such things. But I can tell you that what He has created smacks of sublime intelligence, power and knowledge. The Heavens declare the GLORY OF GOD. 

Atheist fools like you have no clue whatsoever. We know nothing can create anything. We also are forced to acknowledge only a Supreme Being could have brought the amazing Universe into existence. 

Hahahahaha crash go the foolish atheists yet again. 

Beeno is a Muslim that worships Baal. 

You could go to your local mosque to hear the same tripe that Beeno rambles on about every day.

All the ancient towns in the old testament in the Bible are in Arab places like Irak.

Babylon is in Irak. Moses was a Jew- or at least the fantasy figure in the Bible. 

In Islam, Moses is the most widely mentioned figure in the Quran and is recounted more than that of any other individuals and is considered to be the first sharia law bearer prophet. 

Moses is the most important prophet in Judaism. He is also an important prophet in Christianity, Islam, the Bahá'í Faith, and a number of other Abrahamic religions.

So the 10 commandments are actually the 1st version of Sharia Law, and Baal created the universe out of nothing. 

So God created the universe from nothing then

One theory is pretty much the same as the other except the one includes a cloud fairy ? How disappointing.

No it's not  the same...and the cloud fairy is in your head...there is no such thing, not even Christians believe that.

The cosmos is much more complicated than we can ever know. Organized religion might be a scam in many ways, but organized secularism is a scam too...lies apon lies...everyone has one or the other agenda.

Neither makes much sense, there are much more to life than what we  think

There's high expectations in the header.

LMFAO @ Denny

So, as expected, Beeno does not man up at all..... in fact he behaves like the coward that he has always been...…….....he merely responds with all kinds of bullshit, but with nothing concerning the actual question being asked.

"The building of the pyramids is a very very very simple exercise when compared to the creation of a universe from nothing or the amazing complexity of the human genome or a strand of DNA"

Beeno, are you saying that God created the pyramids, if not, tell me who did and how?

"Jesus turned the water into wine"

Really...…… you read this in some book, so it happened?

"Fed the crowds with a few fish and loaves of bread"

Really...……. you read this in some book, so it happened?

You want to prove things to me about the universe, and our human DNA and you want to preach to us that someone turned water into wine...…… and that a few loaves of bread and fish fed thousands of people...… but you cannot explain to us how the pyramids were built..... just that they were "very very simple" to build.

As expected...... you are a complete and utter joke compared to your fellow and more respectable Christians

You know sweet  fuck all

"We also are forced to acknowledge only a Supreme Being could have brought the amazing Universe into existence. that Beeno is the outright coward that he has been accused of being for all these years"

Fixed

DA

Maybe I'm getting older but I've understood that attacking other's faith is more of a practice in justifying one's own beliefs than it is about making others realise the folly in theirs.

Argue as much as you like, but there are some strange parallels between creationism and science.

How God spoke the universe into being. And now we believe that the resonance of particles is what determines everything about their nature. Other faiths, some that predate Moses, share his concept. How man's intelligence(fruit) forever puts us at odds with nature. Entropy/chaos into complex systems.

The Christian trinity is about as deep a lesson in philosophy as you'll find anywhere. "Original state~Transmission medium~Perception". Simple and beautiful yet simultaneously revealing of so much. From relationships and faith, to intelligence, understanding of systems and even life . Yes, most Christians define the idea narrowly, but I challenge anyone to find a broadly more meaningful and pertinent aid to the human condition.

I'm just thankful that I'm able to appreciate both the Selfish Gene and many religious concepts equally.

Bwhahahahahaha daPerv, a real plank, is having a tantrum because i wont tell him who built the pyramids and how. Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha

The plank can't understand i dont give a dot who built the pyramids or how. There ar far more important issues!

What i can assure him is that God created whoever created the pyramids and gave them enough intelligence to figure out how to do it.

Compared to the creation of the universe the building of the pyramids that so impresses the numpkin daPerv , plank extraordinaire, is like learning the sequence of A, B,C.

The atheists think nothing created the Universe. i say Somebody created the universe. Very obvious who has the stronger case. The worst possible argument is nothing created the Universe. Hence God calling the poor atheists FOOLS. Can't but fully and wholeheartedly agree.

When one looks at the Universe one quickly realizes unless you are a very dumbass atheist FOOL. What immense power was aplay, what incredible knowledge. We humans have barely scrapped the surface.

So DaPERV hope you can grasp the idea that next to creating the Universe the building of a few tiny little pyramids is as nothing really.

How you have to labour points when dealing with low intelligence nutjobs like daPERV

So tell us your theory daPERV; who built the pyramids and how. And why all this matters so much to you.

Also explain why you think nothing created the Universe. The floor is yours.

Uncle Beeno will give you a hearing. No more tantrums etc.

Draad that part is only true for Christians when it suits them. The vast majority of Christians (examples above) will not accept that for every argument there is a counter argument, they will not listen and consider anything else and in my experience will actually become aggressive when confronted with questions they cannot answer.

Here is one:

I acknowledge your belief in a creator however your creator differs from mine. I believe a magic teapot created the universe including earth and everything on it. This magic teapot exists in an alternative dimension (cannot be seen) and I believe all the complexities that cannot be explained by our immensely feeble human minds is explained by this magic teapot's abilities to do anything you can possibly imagine and everything you cant. Prove to me that your theory has evidential power over mine. Go !

 "...acknowledge your belief in a creator however your creator differs from mine. I believe a magic teapot created the universe including earth and everything on it. This magic teapot exists in an alternative dimension (cannot be seen) and I believe all the complexities that cannot be explained by our immensely feeble human minds is explained by this magic teapot's abilities to do anything you can possibly imagine and everything you cant. Prove to me that your theory has evidential power over mine. Go !"

Yawn.

Well, for a start, the document in which their God is found, also contains many facts about places, people and events.  

Yes, that does not mean that it's correct about creation or anything else, but it does hold more factual credibility and thus also evidential weight than your Teapot story.

Case closed.

Augie ... there is a very big difference between those who claim to be Christian and those who live their lives as Christians.

Most Christians wouldn't know the difference between your teapot and God.

There are too many questions out there that simply don't have answers.

It's these unanswered questions that make for entertaining debate.

What is debate without a little name calling. If you're not going to slam your fist down on the desk in outrage then why bother at all.

I can prove the existence of my God about as much as Plum can convince me of alien life.

Actually ... maybe I need to rethink this.

Debating anything with BeanDip is probably worse than pulling teeth.

You need to cho ose your opponent carefully. Someone who brings an interesting angle to the topic discussed. Not someone who bores you within the first 5 minutes.

Nothing worse than a bore repeating himself ...

A document is not proof of anything

@CleanCut. It is fun though

Really? That's you best shot?

Hmmmm ...??

Maybe you should argue about something a little less complicated.

"A document is not proof of anything"

Well, a document is a proof that documents exist. So you fail again.

You said to show how their recorded story is more evidential than your teapot one.

There is much more corroborated evidence within it than in your story, which I assume you made up or borrowed from Dawkins spaghetti monster god. 

Too funny. What is the 'corroborated evidence' ? The existence of a book ?

Actually there isn't a scrap of corroborated evidence that teapot or your sky fairy exists.

If I wrote on a piece of paper 'Plum enjoys rectal insertion' would that be considered evidence ? Would it be considered evidence in 1000 years time ? And if so, would it be accurate because of its age ?

Time to stop believing in fairy tales Plum chum

Rather keep to your teapot theory, Augie. It's a better fit.

Anything a little deeper ... like fairies, aliens, space, creation and God are undoubtedly beyond your grasp.

If you insist on including yourself, then at least do us a favour and come up with something a little less boring than the horseshit you've spouted so far.

Thanks a lot.

Lol, is it Aug?

Let me save you some time and embarassment. 

Rephrase your question to ask, "Does the Bible prove the existence of God more than my borrowed tale about a teapot?"

Because yes, the Exodus was corroborated by Egyptians records. Many names, places, events and outcomes have also been corroborated from other sources...at least in terms of material fact. 

So their "story" holds more weight than yours.

I'm not religious BTW. 

Pity the Egyptian records are so spotty about the creation of the Sphinx and pyramids.

There is not much in Egyptian records about the Exodus as far as I know. Some event like that likely took place, but not with the numbers mentioned in the Bible and undoubtedly didn't involve the entire nation of Israel. A recent theory is that it was the Levites who fled from Egypt and then joined up with the Israelites, at which time they merged and their exodus tale became Israel folklore.

The subsequent conquest of Canaan has been fairly convincingly disproved through archaeological records - a lot more concensus about that than about the exodus. The Israelites were likely already living in Canaan at the time of the exodus.

These stories often have a root in history, but they are also about establishing a nation's identity and creating for them a story and a place in the world, drawing on myth and legend as well. The truth will never be known, we can but take educated guesses.

Plum, it's really refreshing to see a non religious person using their minds while discussing things like God, aliens, ETC. Your world view can be adjusted with the acquisition of new knowledge. It would be even more refreshing to see religious people and Atheists do the same, but that's not to be...both groups are to set in their faith to even consider that they might be wrong.

Glad to see the brainwash job didn't get everyone.

Shame Redneck ... are you still pouting? ... it's been a few months now since your last spanking. ... never had you pegged for a puffy lipped pouter.

Get over it already.

For it is written in the Book of Ceylon, Verse 17, Chapter Tea:  the Great Lord of the Five Roses poured unto Himself another Cuppa.

Thus is it written. All hail magic teapot. Repent and drink of Thee!

For once I'm in total agreement with Jihadi Beeno .....

"What i can assure him is that God created whoever created the pyramids and gave them enough intelligence  to figure out how to do it." It kinda explains why he has none, yep it all makes sense... there was none to give by the time he came along.