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Nope Rooi, it's a Devine sign for you to mend your ways.

Irony...the one who punted the highly educated atheists opposed to the stupid Christians  can't even spell his own religion....glad you noticed Rooi....LMAO!!!

Crusaderfan with respect for your land, your nationality you are a disgrace...an absolute muttonhead and an ignorant fool...you live in a country that's paradise and you still think it evolved...Mt Cook and that scenery. I'm a big fan of Christchurch's team but that's where our  beliefs end...a Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Constance does not evolve...it is created...period.

NZ is a heaven to fly fish..an absolute paradise...I did not however have time to savour it...We came into NZ through Christchurch and with hired 4X4 suzuki got into the Great North Road heading for Blenheim at the top. of SI. The countryside was pastoral and the road was narrow,tortuous and quiet with quaint roadside kiosks and petrol stations every few kilometers.

It was a little like Natal midlands. We found a motel in Blenheim , stayed the night there and saw pretty towns Geraldine,Te Anan, St Arnaud and Queenstown...visited my stepson in the latter...observed the Wairau River...a divine trout river, drank a bottle of NZ's best Sauvignon Blanc...it was good but no better than a few I tasted back home. We spent several days in Queenstown and then with a dip of paradise scurried back to Christchurch to fly out of NZ to China,,,to catch the train from Beijing to St Petersburg.

I've been around and seen a few places in the world including my country, yours and a scattering of others and it's hard and almost impossible to believe when you see such divine beauty, you have the audacity to say there is no God.

Rooiaas maybe has a slight excuse because he lives in one of the ugliest towns in the world where plastic bags are the flowers but even he got the credit card to see Italy, eating cheaper spagetti and drinking boxed wine...Chateau De Carbodeaux....lol.

You atheistists a totally blind.

Crusaderfan with respect for your land, your nationality you are a disgrace...an absolute muttonhead and an ignorant fool...you live in a country that's paradise and you still think it evolved...Mt Cook and that scenery. I'm a big fan of Christchurch's team but that's where our  beliefs end...a Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Constance does not evolve...it is created...period.

NZ is a heaven to fly fish..an absolute paradise...I did not however have time to savour it...We came into NZ through Christchurch and with hired 4X4 suzuki got into the Great North Road heading for Blenheim at the top. of SI. The countryside was pastoral and the road was narrow,tortuous and quiet with quaint roadside kiosks and petrol stations every few kilometers.

It was a little like Natal midlands. We found a motel in Blenheim , stayed the night there and saw pretty towns Geraldine,Te Anan, St Arnaud and Queenstown...visited my stepson in the latter...observed the Wairau River...a divine trout river, drank a bottle of NZ's best Sauvignon Blanc...it was good but no better than a few I tasted back home. We spent several days in Queenstown and then with a dip of paradise scurried back to Christchurch to fly out of NZ to China,,,to catch the train from Beijing to St Petersburg.

I've been around and seen a few places in the world including my country, yours and a scattering of others and it's hard and almost impossible to believe when you see such divine beauty, you have the audacity to say there is no God.

Rooiaas maybe has a slight excuse because he lives in one of the ugliest towns in the world where plastic bags are the flowers but even he got the credit card to see Italy, eating cheaper spagetti and drinking boxed wine...Chateau De Carbodeaux....lol.

You atheistists a totally blind.

Lov it seb, I'm a mutton head and a disgracel because i dont swallow your religion?

So there are billions of mutton heads in the world except you and your ilk?

If i hurt your feelings for thinking your a fool so be it but when your religion has so many holes in it you have to expect people to question the insanity of it. 

And yet your god gives this mutton head the best country in the world and the All Blacks to a non believer but leaves a billion or so believers living in shit, surely that makes you wonder about it.

Cant believe you pulled the old "look at the trees so there must be a god" out of the lame old reasons bag.

I have travelled extensivly as well so how do you explain the ugliness and suffering in the world. Thats gods plan as well?

Your god is not a nice being if this is the best plan he can come up with

A talking snake convinced 2 people to eat an apple and condemned billions to misery hahahaha not such a loving being with a shitty plan if you ask me

I have seen it the light god has spelt Atheist wrong in my spell checker because i dont believe

Its a sign i tell you. I am on my knees pleading forgiveness for such an evil sin (using spellchecker)

How many holy marys must i mutter before i am forgiven?

No wait thats the pedo church quick someone tell me which one i should follow. 

Baptist, Moronism, Angle cans, Scientology 

I will never trust science and reason again. If a spell checker lets me down we are all doomed, doomed I tell you.

No wait it was just me miss typing and my spell checker copies it.

Thank fark for that, im an Athiest again (Atheist) and only lost 20% of my brain cells. Gee i can see why simple people believe it must have an auto off switch to intelligence the more cobblers you swallow

Ou Rooi Koos, I wasn't the grammar nazi, you were. In fact, I corrected a few errors when I quoted his post (to give it numbers) and I did not even mention the errors. I was tempted to, but I did not. It amused me that it bothered you so much that you had to correct him. I was actually laughing at that. Unlike you, I don't use spelling ability as a measure of intellect. It was clear that he was in a hurry and did not bother with punctuation and proof reading too much....you on the other hand. What happened to you, you never were t his bitter?

Snarkbok, go look up irony before you lecture others.

 I'll stop replying on religious comments as soon as you keep your ignorant trap shut on things you don't have a clue about...and that's not limited to religion. I don't see that happening anytime soon though.

Shark, I'm not happy-clappy, I don't even go to church much, but I'm also not an opinionated ignorant arsehole like you. I have never mocked anyone's atheism or any other religion. I only enter a religious topic when directly asked a question or when someone else opens the door first. You on the other hand jump at the chance to peddle your horse shit.

Exactly Blue. Spelling and Grammar are required skills that need to be honed to get it perfect, and some people struggle to master some skills while the excel at others. It can be a measure in some cases, but not how Rooi Koos wants to use it.

Anyway, I'm getting increasingly irritated at this childish bickering. Ad nauseum tit for tat so I should probably take it easier and start ignoring the BS. 

Shark, what I believe you are a disrespectful little troll too full of yourself for your own good. Why don't you just ignore me from now on and I'll try and return the favour?

Thanks Vlag, good points all round, but it will probably go whoosh too.

Just to ad, in Biblical context, not much have changed since then. We are still either masters or slaves. Today's people want to force  thousands of year's concepts into today's language and vice versa. These fools can be glad Baal worship did not come out tops, they might not have liked how the world would have turned out.

Does the bible not say dont beat your slave so that they die within 2 days (any longer than that and your fine)

Surely if a slave dies at you're hand even if it takes days to die this breaks one of the 10 commandments?

Or are slaves not considered people to god?

Blueblok are you using a pc or a smart phone?

I do not get any indication a word is mi spelt on either of my devices

Sader, it's a setting for your browser.  You need to enable the spell checker. It works on my laptop, but not on the phone. I suppose there's a setting for that too, but I haven't found it yet.

PS, sorry if I came across snotty about that spelling error, it was actually an inept dig at Rooi Koos, but an epic fail on my side.

Thanks for the tip Dradd much appreciated and as per the spelling mistake i didnt take it that way. All in good fun as far as i am concerned. 

If the shoe was on the other foot i would have a crack at the poster myself 

Errr isnt the bible supposed to be the word of god?

And it clearly tells you that you can keep slaves and the rules around it.

I find it intersting as a christian you state the bible is not gods word or am i misunderstanding you?

The slaves in Biblical times sold themselves into slavery. It was like a bond and everything was reset after seven years. The slavery of the Bible was not the slavery of the 18th and 19th century .

A slave and a servant was the same thing, money was only for the rich and most people were serfs or slaves. 

""Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.""

I have a house cleaner. Seeing as the lines between a slave and servant are blurred, then a cleaner could be seen as servant/slave. It is disappointing that this person does not treat me as Christ. Does this mean my house cleaner is not going to heaven? Maybe I should beat my servant for not worshipping me as Christ, and for not fearing me. 

This is clearly a person writing this horseshit in the Bible, that some people believe as the word of God. 

No decent God would expect a servant/slave to obey another person as if they were a God. The bible is filled with rhetoric to justify slavery- and manipulate people into accepting servitude as a slave. 

God also supported Apartheid, as black people were the wood carrying class- however God changed his mind in 1992. Was this actually God, or people manipulating the words of the bible to suit their own cause.