PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
13 Jun 2023, 22:59#82
Pretty predictable, wouldn't you say?
"2) claims that this is what I meant even though it's not all what I said or inferred at any point."
...and doesn't provide a shred of evidence.
That's really the hill you're going to die on?
It's very easy bud, scroll up on this thread, or find any other, and simply copy and paste where I said that God made the universe.
I think you don't know the difference between "did" and "may have".
Pretty funny that not only don't you have a counter to ANY of my points but you've now reverted to straight-up bullshit as you head for the door.
Easy chucking stones, huh?
Much more difficult when somebody calls you on it.
Like I said here before, you and old FishNuts are like two kids that think slinging mud at religion is cool...but you've never actually thought about the things you say on any respectably deep level.
This thread has proven what empty heads the two of you are.
"Word salad"...hahaha
I suppose anything beyond you does appear as a word salad.
That jokes on you, Sader.
SHsharkbok
Captain23,199 posts
SHsharkbokCaptain23,199 posts
14 Jun 2023, 17:17#96
Draad, you are trying to use a smart person to promote religion by misconstruing their words.
Brand association, or cannibalisation...
Religion is theology- a man-mad entity with a God that is a person.
You know that in the 21st century, most of the smartest people in the world are not religious.
You might not admit it- but if you took a statistical average of religious vs non-religious- it is clear religious people are on average less smart.
What Einstein is suggesting is that "if" "a" God exists, it is nature. Not a person controlling everything.
So he rejected theology - which is religion.
Atheists reject religion - but that does not mean they have ruled out the possibility of something like nature being another form of life etc. This has not been proven or disproven.
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
15 Jun 2023, 10:04#100
According to these two plebs, if one rates something as 60% likely to be the cause of an outcome because there is too much evidence to rate it as only 40%...then your 60% likelihood automatically becomes 100%.
Lol, so we're now in "me-no-understandi" territory hahaha
So let's summarise the stupidity and dishonesty that Sader and FishNuts have demonstrated thus far...
1) Claiming that I am religious and thus refusing to deal with my argument - a complete logical fallacy because whether I am religious or not has zero to do with whether my argument is sound. Falls into the "Stupid" category.
2) Cllaiming that I said a supreme being HAD TO HAVE made the universe...when that's not at all what I said. Falls into the "dishonest" category.
3) Fail to adequately deal with any of the points I made. Falls into the "cowardly" category.
4) Hold the position that if one does not know whether the cat in the box is dead or alive, and make arguments in both directions...then you are flip-flopping. Falls into the "very stupid category".
5) Claiming that very clearly put forward ideas are word salad in an attempt to avoid dealing with the content. Both "dishonest" and "cowardly".
I mean, I could go on.
But what is the point? It's abundantly clear that our two resident planks are never, not even on their bravest day, going to deal with the idea of creationism or God, on merit.
They are simply trying to appear enlightened and superior by looking down on religious people and in the same breath showing their complete lack of any class in the process.
This thread has completely exposed them for the shallow and mouth-breathing numpties that they are.
It's actually comical how easy it is to swat them aside.
I'll bet anyone here that neither of them are aware of the aura of terror they started giving off about halfway through this thread. Very immature, very weak and extremely low EQ.
At any time, you two knobs are very welcome to address any of the points I made above. Since I'm not a cowardly twerp like the two of you, I am very happy to chuck ideas around and hold thoughts that might be uncomfortable in my mind.
I raised so many possibilities on this thread, opened the door to a plethora of avenues of discussion...but none if them interest you. Even though you're apparently very interested in the concept of God and creationism.
...in the same way that walking down a dark alley at night doesn't interest you.
You're two frightened little pussies giving it the big one but when it gets down to it, you get wet and slip away.
Here, I'll prove my point.
Without believing in a supreme and almighty God, try to compare yourself, HYPOTHETICALLY, to an infinite intelligence.
Forget everything else above. Clear your mind.
Imagine that you are living in a reality created by a supreme intelligence.
Where does your mind lead you, what thoughts do you have?
Are you able to do that exercise? If not, is it your intelligence or your ego that is preventing you from doing so?
If you're honest with yourself, you'll find the answer is ego...mental baggage that is doing you no good.
Grow up. You're nobody.
CRCrusadersfan
Pro3,099 posts
CRCrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
15 Jun 2023, 13:40#106
Look you can pretend you're a deep thinker and put forward any sort of answer that satisfies your ego.
What ever it takes to make you think you matter, it's a free world.
Every since I stated I believe in a natural universe it really seems to have triggered you.
The possibility are endless and while interesting to think about it, my life doesn't evolve around trying to solve such unanswerable questions I will leave that to the scientific community.
CRCrusadersfan
Pro3,099 posts
CRCrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
15 Jun 2023, 14:43#108
If you are referring to me bendover I have never been a Christian, and have never claimed to have been.
I know you struggle with the concept but some have never been convinced by your nonsense.
Also faith is a pointless concept. Name one thing that someone cannot believe in on faith. Can you explain why you need faith to believe in your religion? Could it simply be that that is the only thing you have to support you claims.
SHsharkbok
Captain23,199 posts
SHsharkbokCaptain23,199 posts
15 Jun 2023, 16:11#111
A statical average is different to generalisation.
In the 21st century, as a statistical average religious people are morally and intellectually inferior.
Yes, I have met religious people that are smart and morally good people - but they are the minority.
Take this board for example - Beeno, Moonrover, Substantial Fool.
They support Russia.... That alone proves what degenerates they are.
I would bet money that the non-religious on this board are on average better people- both morally and logically.