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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
26 Apr 2020, 12:14
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The average age in the US is 37 years old. Over the next 10 years, the Millenium generation will become the dominant voting group in the US. Them the Republican party will be over, The majority the Democrats have is massive in this group. Less religious and therefore less Republican 

Demographics of the US paint another picture of Republicans vs Democrats. 


There is a clear trend that shows the more educated someone is, the less likely they are to be Republican. 
The older religious red necks are the bread and butter voters of the Republicans in 2020- but this changes with the younger generation. 
https://www.people-press.org/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/  
(https://www.pewresearch.org/about/

The city dwellers are more likely to be Democrats and the rural Republicans. 
The smarter sensible Republicans will continue to exist, but the dumber ones look to be on their way out. 

The educational gap in partisan orientation continues to grow

Higher educational attainment is increasingly associated with Democratic Party affiliation and leaning.












Religious affiliation and party identification

White evangelical Protestants remain one of the most reliably Republican groups of voters, and the GOP’s advantage among this segment of the population has continued to grow in recent years: 77% of white evangelical voters lean toward or identify with the Republican Party, while just 18% have a Democratic orientation.

Urban voters grow more Democratic, rural voters more Republican

Voters in urban counties have long aligned more with the Democratic Party than the Republican Party, and this Democratic advantage has grown over time. Today, twice as many urban voters identify as Democrats or lean Democratic (62%) as affiliate with the GOP or lean Republican.

Overall, those who live in suburban counties are about evenly divided in their partisan loyalties (47% Democratic, 45% Republican), little changed over the last two decades.

Voters in rural areas have moved in a more Republican direction over the last several years. From 1999 to 2009, rural voters were about equally divided in their partisan leanings.

A wide – and growing – generational divide in partisanship

The generational gap in partisanship is now more pronounced than in the past, and this echoes the widening generational gaps seen in many political values and preferences.

Millennial voters (born 1981 to 1996) have had a Democratic tilt since they first entered adulthood; this advantage has only grown as they have aged.

Democrats enjoy a 27-percentage-point advantage among Millennial voters (59% are Democrats or lean Democratic, 32% are Republican or lean Republican). In 2014, 53% of Millennial voters were Democrats or leaned Democratic, 37% tilted toward the GOP.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 Apr 2020, 12:32
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The fact that the research is done along those lines is testament to the fact that there was a preconceived conclusion which smacks of bias. Not the scientificway at all...prejudiced BS disguised as science...the lefty way.

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
26 Apr 2020, 12:49
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Well, Draad it is clear that Democrats have a massive advantage in Millenial voters who will soon become the voting majority. (So the Republicans are toast). 

Apparently generation Z is even more Democratic. So what you consider left will soon be centre or even right. 

This is why the Trumpanzees support their master so. They can see that he is their last throw of the dice, before your ideology fades into oblivion...


Millennial voters (born 1981 to 1996) have had a Democratic tilt since they first entered adulthood; this advantage has only grown as they have aged.

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
26 Apr 2020, 12:53
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https://www.people-press.org/2018/03/01/the-generation-gap-in-american-politics/

Just 27% of Millennials approve of Trump’s job performance, while 65% disapprove, according to Pew Research Center surveys conducted in Trump’s first year as president. Among Gen Xers, 36% approve and 57% disapprove. In Obama’s first year, 64% of Millennials and 55% of Gen Xers approved of the way the former president was handling his job as president.

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Among Boomers and Silents, there is less difference in first-year views of the past two presidents; both groups express more positive views of Trump’s job performance than do Gen Xers or Millennials (46% of Silents approve, as do 44% of Boomers).

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2020, 13:12
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“ Posted by: sharkbok (11332 posts)

Apr 26, 2020, 12:14

The average age in the US is 37 years old. Over the next 10 years, the Millenium generation will become the dominant voting group in the US. “ 

Keep going SB, keep going. It is becoming easier and easier. 

Fist. Remember that the future is an unknown. Anything you say about the future is pure conjecture. 

Second. You are now using a possible future outcome to support your assertion about the present. What I queried was your assertion that currently “....many are the below-average intelligence people of America “. Revisit your statement but do it slowly, so you don’t miss the part where you say “are” below average. You do know that are denotes present tense, don’t you? 

Third. You have no way of knowing that the fact that the current youth will form the base and control the future Dems. The truth is that the Dems may well be concerned about that very situation. They seem to have lost a large chunk of the younger support due to the way that they have been treating the socialist wing of the party, and that wing is mainly made up of younger voters. 

You can quote reams of stats but that is the reality. There are many progressives, and some very vocal progressives at that, who are now saying that Bernie Sanders should have run on a Republican ticket because many of his ideas have more resonance with the Republicans than the Dems. I have said before that the other progressive in the Dem race, Tulsi Gabbard has more in common than Trump than with the Dems. Her only big beef with Trump is the fact that he has not yet pulled out of the wars and Medicare for All. She is also not happy with the stimulus packages. 

She, like all progressives, reckon that he should have handed out all the money directly to the people, whereas Trump’s philosophy is to boost business so that they can protect the jobs and the income of the working people. 

But, as I said, carry on trying to prove that conservatives are unintelligent. It is fun to watch you steaming to try and prove your point. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Apr 2020, 13:19
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Sharktwit many young people are taken in by left wing marxist indoctrination. But when they get into the real world they realize their folly. Hence as you get into stats for older people the less and less are they marxist. Surely even a dumbass like you knows communism doesn't work. yes by the time you get to 40 you are educated enough by life to say goodbye to marxism.

Further Republicans out earn demonrats.

Age18–24 years old563591025–29 years old53398930–39 years old514091740–49 years old465041950–64 years old445333065 and older4553215

Family incomeUnder $30,0005341617$30,000–49,9995142719$50,000–99,9994650431$100,000–199,9994748524$200,000–249,999484934Over $250,000464866Sharkvirus blue represents the demonrats and red the GOP. Nowhere do dumbass demonrats out earn GOP folk. HahahahahhahahahahaahhahahahaStats ex left wing Wiki pedia

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
26 Apr 2020, 14:34
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@Beeno, Being younger than 40 is not young. The average age in the US is 38. 
Over the next 10 years, there will also be less Republican voters who have died of old age. The way Trump is dealing with Coronavirus by encouraging the rednecks to ignore the lockdown - many might not even be around by November this year...
Also, people do not get more religious as they get older.  Conservative people in Northern Europe are smart because they are not religious. They think independently and would be too wise to let Trump pull the wool over their eyes. 
I am talking about the end of the religious red neck era- not the end of the conservative era. When the ideology changes over the next 10 years, somethings that were left and centre- will become right-wing. 

------------------------------------------------------------@Beeno, What is this?  A table with age rows and columns. It is meaninglessAge18–24 years old563591025–29 years old53398930–39 years old514091740–49 years old465041950–64 years old445333065 and older4553215
Facts remain that people under 40 are vast majority Democrat and it is clear what the future is going to be
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 Apr 2020, 14:45
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
26 Apr 2020, 14:55
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26 Apr 2020, 14:55#49
@Ceradunce, read this- and it proves everything you just said is irrelevant.
Once generation Z start getting more eligible voters, combined with the Millenium generation - the Republicans are game over. 
Either a new party will replace the Republicans - or they will change beyond reckoning. The younger population are less religious in both N.Europe and the US - that is not going to change.  The conservatives in the UK are not religious - it is a dying art (To quote Saffex). 99% of people that support Trump are religious. No fake Christians, no Trump... This is why you lot support Trump, he is your last vestige. 

A wide – and growing – generational divide in partisanship

The generational gap in partisanship is now more pronounced than in the past, and this echoes the widening generational gaps seen in many political values and preferences.

Millennial voters (born 1981 to 1996) have had a Democratic tilt since they first entered adulthood; this advantage has only grown as they have aged.

Democrats enjoy a 27-percentage-point advantage among Millennial voters (59% are Democrats or lean Democratic, 32% are Republican or lean Republican). In 2014, 53% of Millennial voters were Democrats or leaned Democratic, 37% tilted toward the GOP.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2020, 15:32
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Find a breakdown of the far-left fraction within the Dems v the left fraction within the Dems and then we talk. 

The only party in danger of undergoing radical change is the Dems. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
26 Apr 2020, 15:49
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The Democrats will stabilise once they take back control Read that chart and weep. 
  1. Millennials are 2:1 Democrats vs Republicans (2 democrats for 1 republican)
  2. Generation Z is the most Democrat of all- and when they have more voters over the next 10 years- the Republicans are over.
  3. Generation X is a slight advantage to Democrats
It is not rocket science to see who is going to be losing the elections. The main goal is to get rid of Trump the Republicans do not get one last term.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2020, 16:19
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SB

How many times must somebody try and help you.   The fact is I advised you to look at he exit poles result at the 2016 election and see something that could potentially help to straighten out the theoretical sources you quote from.   Those polls are normally wrong since they do cover very limited surveys, while exit pols cover everything on a much wider basis:-

Please see the following website on the 2016 election where Beeno got the info from:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election

Go down on site until you get to maps and below that is Voter Demographics.   You will see the actual situation:-

When looking at the demographic info you  must remember that 68% of the voters are White and the same percentage of voters are college graduates,   Frim the figures provided it is clear that of the total DP voters the most important component for the Democrats are -

*   the Black vote'

*   the Hispanic vote

An exceptionally large component of the Black and Latino voters are low qualified people so bear that in mind as well.   

Look at the income levels as well.   No university graduate will earn less than S50 000/  The other factor is the state with the highest number of DP supporters, namely Californa. The estimated population is 40 000 000 of which only 22 000 000 are Whites,  The rest are Hispanics, Asians (mostly Chinese or Indians) and Blacks.    Of those roughly 40 000 000 residents only 14 100 000 actually voted.   If you divide that into demographics you find that about  61%  of the voters voted for the Democratic Party. so the DP received circa  8,1 million votes,   In cities like Los Angeles where 75% residents are not white. the DP got 72% of the vote.   If you calculate results further it became clear that Calfornia is very divided  on a racial basis and circa  5,5 million  of the Clinton supporters were Hispanic, Asian and Black voters,
That category includes a large percentage of lowly qualified voters - so your story about the Democrats being the educated people and the Republicans the uneducated went  straight out of the window,   The fact is that if a similar evaluation is done iro the country as a whole - the majority support for the Democrats are race-based and with major support from groups with lower qualifications than you would find with Republicans,,   
So try again.  and this time make less of a mess than you normally come up with,     ,               

     

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
26 Apr 2020, 16:34
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26 Apr 2020, 16:34#67
Clevermike,
I have looked at that link you provided, and it just reinforces my argument, and disproves what you are saying. 
The only point you made that made any sense was that non-whites are on average poorer than whites. This is true in most countries. 
However, people younger than 40 and white, still favour Democrats. This is the Millenium generation, Generation X and Generation Z. 
It is the really old population that favour Trump. They want preference to white people, not just to Americans.  Whites that are less educated - are majority Republican (67/28). THIS IS THE MAIN POINT I AM MAKING. 

The Bulk of TRUMPS SUPPORTERS ARE BELOW AVERAGE INTELLIGENCE (This is his bread and butter) They are also old and religious. Education by race/ethnicityWhite college graduates4549437White no college degree2867434Non-white college graduates7123513Non-white no college degree75203163461517White men without college degrees2371616Non-whites7421529
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Family incomeUnder $30,0005341617$30,000–49,9995142719$50,000–99,9994650431$100,000–199,9994748524$200,000–249,999484934Over $250,000464866For white people, not much different. People from Mexico and black etc, are usually on much lower wages. So if a state has a more racially diverse population - this will impact stats as an average. 


  • Millennials are 2:1 Democrats vs Republicans (2 democrats for 1 republican)
  • Generation Z is the most Democrat of all- and when they have more voters over the next 10 years- the Republicans are over.
  • Generation X is a slight advantage to Democrats
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    DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 17:28
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    26 Apr 2020, 17:28#68

    Snark, one day you'll discover your folly...the day you realize you're living in a communist sh!thole...and that day is approaching at breakneck speed.

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    CeradynePro9,374 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 18:18
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    26 Apr 2020, 18:18#69

    Everybody on the left especially the progressives are blindly behind the Democratic Party in full force. Oh wait.......


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    Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 18:41
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    Nanzi Piglosi is poor sharkvirus's hero. The clown is a communist sympathizer.


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    sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 18:50
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    That is the difference. The Trumpazees worship their master.  For everyone else, they are more objective about other politicians - they just hate Trump. 
    The people that did not like Obama are the same people that love Trump. Mostly older white people that are religious. (Many below average intelligence).

    It is all about religion and ideology. Most of Trumps supporters are extreme Christians. As I have said before, the only other main group of people that would support Trump are people that want to pay less tax - which is understandable (either a high paying job, self-employed or/and company owner). (These could be smarter Republicans or even people with more ideal s that are Democrats). 
    And no Draad, just because someone does not like the far-right religious, that has nothing to do with capitalism. That is just propaganda that you lot lap up. The UK is still capitalist, but religion has faded away. 
    The reality is that most Western countries in the world are a mix of capitalism with some socialism. This is fine, just as long as the tax is not too high which is bad for capitalism. 
    Socialism is also a good power check to ensure that the capitalist economy does not consolidate too much so that there is no competition - and prevent the system from becoming too far right-wing. 
    If capitalism went worst-case scenario it would be a few companies controlling the world. If socialism went the worst-case scenario power would consolidate within the government amongst a few people. Having a mix of both - with more focus on capitalism is a check of power. 

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    CeradynePro9,374 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 18:54
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    And then there is this:


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    MozartCaptain49,914 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 19:18
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    26 Apr 2020, 19:18#73

    The difference is Trump cares about solving problems, the Dems care about exploiting problems. He is not perfect, not an old style English gentleman, but way less objectionable than he is portrayed. 

    He has a sense of humour.....does Biden, does Pelosi, does AOC?  His family is also accomplished and his kids are inherently sound. Sure he is bombastic and immodest, but those aren’t the worst failings in a President, incompetence is.

    The media are still trying to pin some heinous act on him, but they all turn out to be misrepresentations. Like all the claims he is profiting from the Presidency when it’s likely the  reverse....and again no credible proof.


    In the meantime the media overlooks  Biden Enterprises a whole family of political entrepreneurs who have hitched their wagons to a failing old man, who was nothing more than a bully even before he started losing his mind

    Trump is a brash, arrogant New Yorker....but competent, dedicated to doing a good job and right down Main Street in his views. America is a great country and if you believe that Trump is the only game in town.

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    DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 19:20
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    26 Apr 2020, 19:20#74

    Snark, you millenials are too young to really remember the horrors of communism...and socialism is communism-lite...the path to the Darkside...much suffering ahead...

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    clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 19:56
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    26 Apr 2020, 19:56#75

    SB

    Get this straight - ideology has nothing to do with it.   For decades the Democrats regarded the White working class as their voting fodder and treated them like shit,  For instance the real income and standard of living dropped by 10% and they totally deserted the Democrats in 2016 for precisely that reason.  The Trade Unions ran the voting machine for the Democrats - - but the voters did not listen to what they were told by the Unions and in huge numbers - some for the first time in their lives -  deserted and voted republican,  They lost hope that the Democrats will do anything for them bar exporting their jobs,  In exit polls surveys done countrywide indicated that 53% of the city dwellers, 60% of the suburb voters and  73% of the rural voters went in a bg way for Trump - he got 72% of the vote of the people that thought the country was going the wrong way - as against 23% for Clinton.   In 2012 the difference was 11% in 2016 49%.  

    The people were feeling they were deserted by their party for which they voted for regularly since 1988.   It is not ideology - it is the no care attitude of the liberal and party gentry that caused the problem.   I think even though Democratic politicians are basically blind to reality they realized that they cannot survive without getting support in return for nothing and that caused them to issue illegal drivers licenses as means of identification to migrants in the name of dead people on the voters roll and in 2016 the fraud in California involved more than 3 million votes and in Texas 800 000.   The other thing they used is the open borders campaign to ensure flooding in of further potential voters,   

    The latter was not clever either, the new arrivals cause job losses and lower pay for workers and the sufferers are the existing Latino and Black Voters who increasingly find themselves in the same hole than the  white workers were in in 2016 and they are also getting tired of voting for promises never kept.

    There used to be similar policies followed by the Democrats and  Republicans and the results in elections were decided by a small group of voters that switched parties from time to time.  Ideology had ZERO to do with it,- you got inside the two parties the sane kind of groupings -  Leftists Liberals, centrist and right wing elements,   There was no policy differences between Bush an d Obama for instance,  

    At this stage the Democrats have no coherent policies - since the ideologues  have entered the party and is pulling it further to the left  and they have the active support of the media,  The Republicans have always been a center right party - with the far right people like the KKK not regarded as acceptable.   In the main Trump is just about part of the centrist group in the RP.  Fact is that is why he got rid of Bolton who was always a notorious war monger,

    The only people who has ideological ties are the small part of the Democrats who has become a loud leftist group in the DP.    The rest are just voters trying to protect their own interests.                   

                    

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    clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 20:47
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    26 Apr 2020, 20:47#76

    SB

    You have no idea about what socialism entail,  Socialism is not the rendering of services to communities allowing for assistance to those who needs it.   That is present  in any Political Party and has been for centuries anyway,   From about the middle of the 19th century it became obligatory for members of the royal families all over Europe  to render community services and assist the less privileged,   With the expansion of democracy the power of the royal families were ended and they were kicked out or their power in Governance was reduced drastically,

    Parliaments realized what the Royals used to do and then started their own welfare enhancement  programs and that developed into hat the present scenario,   Socialism as an ideology had nothing to do with the systems developed in democratic countries,

    It is suggested that you look up a definition is of Socialism - there is a lot of those.  What I have seen with my own eyes as well as read about or heard  as follows:-

    EXTREME SOCIALISM IS AN ABOMINATION WITH THE BLOOD OF AT LEAST 250 MILLION PEOPLE KILLED OM INSTRUCTION OF THE SOCIALIST GOVERNMENTS .

    MORE LAXITY IN SOCIALISM RESUKT IN TOITAL DIASTER WHEN THE GOVERNMNT IS TAKEN OVER BY THE SOCIALISTS.   tHEY REMAIN AN ABOMINATION . 

                  

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    sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 21:09
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    @Clevermike, I stay in Europe- having lived in more than one country and travelled to various others. So I do have some idea about what I am talking about. 
    In the 21st century- it is actually a myth to say that one country is socialist, communist or capitalist. The reality is that all countries are a mix- at least from an economic standpoint. 
    Some industries are nationalised (therefore communist- e.g. water supply across the country). 

    The best system is capitalism, watered down with a little socialism, and a tiny bit of E.g. 80% of Capitalism and 13% Socialism, 2% communism. This mix may vary by country. 
    Some EU countries like the Scandinavian countries are the richest in the world per capita (true average wealth of a person in a country). Not including tax evasion countries that just steal tax from other countries by helping corporates avoid paying sales tax for each country. 
    They have the least crime in the world. Their populations have stabilised so they just get richer each year. They are educated and can deal with issues like children being abandoned etc. However, this type of stuff happens less as they are educated - and have some balance in their society. They have a low rate of crime - and it is a stable place.  They have socialism mixed with capitalism - some have more socialism in the mix than the UK. 
    An easy way to measure this is the tax rate. The lower the tax rate the more capitalist. 
    100% capitalism would not work. Back in the 1800's children were forced to clean chimney because they were small -and died at a young age due to sicknesses they picked up. Another way to measure socialism is the amount of legislation that protects workers. 
    True communism means state ownership of everything. The economy is 100% nationalised. Even China has private entrepreneurship and capitalism in its economy- even if their politics are communist. So no country is 100% communist. (except maybe North Korea- which is a complete stuff up) 
    A higher % of capitalism would work better if economies were perfect competition. At present, Corporates are often a mix of monopolies and oligopolies. This means it is not "natural" market mechanisms. So trade unions (socialist) are needed to give some control to the worker. Ombudsmen are needed to give some control back to the consumer. Perfect competition means "more" competition so that prices are set by the consumer, and not the producer. This gives customers and employees more power. 
    Also, governments allow mergers and acquisitions which reduce competition in the market place - this gives too much power to the employer over the employee.  (e.g. freezing wages). An oligopoly market situation means not enough differentiation -  which reduces the purchasing power of customers/buyers and consolidates power amongst producers
    So the reality is that some socialism is good. Why else would some of the richest countries in the world have a mix of capitalism and socialism? Certainly, capitalism is better - but if there is not a perfect competition in the market- it is not a natural distribution of power - and in that instance, some socialism is needed to prevent centralisation of power. 
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    MozartCaptain49,914 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 21:43
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    RankCountryGDP - PER CAPITA (PPP)1Liechtenstein$139,1002Qatar$124,5003Monaco$115,7004Macau$111,600


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    sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 21:46
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    26 Apr 2020, 21:46#79

    There is a loophole in international tax - so the per capita is actually skewed. 

    How many of those are tax evasion countries? It is a false economy if they are not producers. They are just tax thieves pandering to US corporates. A few are oil producers undercutting OPEC. (The underlying reason for much of the war with Arab countries) 

    https://fortune.com/2017/11/17/richest-country-in-the-world/

    Once there is an international standard tax rate in place - this will change. Trump was asked about it and all he did was threaten trade wars. 


    These are the richest countries in the world per capita.
    1. Qatar ($124,930) Getty Images.  - TAX EVADOR 
    2. Luxembourg ($109,190) Getty Images. ...TAX EVADER
    3. Singapore ($90,530) Getty Images. ...TAX EVADER
    4. Brunei ($76,740) Getty Images. ....TAX EVADER
    5. Ireland ($72,630) Getty Images. ...TAX EVADER
    6. Norway ($70,590) Getty Images. ...
    7. Kuwait ($69,670) Getty Images. ...   -  OIL (Better deal than OPEC)
    8. United Arab Emirates ($68,250) Getty Images. ... OIL (Better deal than OPEC)

    https://corporatetaxhavenindex.org/

    -------------------------------
    Profits Shifted
    (2015 $ bn)[51]JurisdictionHeadline Rate
    (all firms)Effective Rate
    (foreign firms)[51]BEA Rate
    (U.S. firms)[4]Comment106 Ireland12.5%4%2.2%headline rate appears cosmetic97Caribbean (ex. Bermuda)%2%1.2%traditional tax haven, rates are negligible70 Singapore17%8%-headline rate appears cosmetic58  Switzerland21%16%6.7%-57 Netherlands25%10%3.4%headline rate appears cosmetic47 Luxembourg29%3%2.4%headline rate appears cosmetic39 Hong Kong18%18%--
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    clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
    26 Apr 2020, 23:29
    #80
    26 Apr 2020, 23:29#80

    SB

    Another wild statement about Trade Wars,  The statement is wild because there were no trades wars other than  when trade was skewed against the interests of the people of the USA,    

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